10+ minutes Delay in starting Win7 programs

December 7, 2010 at 09:25:43
Specs: Windows 7, Intel Q6600, 2Gb
After my system starts there is a delay before some programs run. For example, Word 2007 displays the initial splash screen for 10+minutes. After this time it works normally. As Mailwasher Pro and Microsoft Money 2003 display the same problem, it would appear to be a Windows problem.

I have reduced the start up programs and non Microft services to a minimum.

Any ideas appreciated.


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#1
December 7, 2010 at 10:44:15
When the pc is on quick open task manager, then open word and watch cpu and memory usage. Also check the hdd led, if it stay on for a long time the hdd is busy(ms word should not make hdd busy).

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#2
December 7, 2010 at 21:13:40
It could be your antivirus program hogging up your initial start up processing time. If it is this, you will either need to learn to live with it, or uninstall it and use a different AV program (Norton and McAfee are notorious for being system hogs and it would not surprise me if you are using one of these). Use task manager as above to spot the culprit or install Process Explorer from Microsoft for even a better view of what is running.
To be sure you are not experiencing an infection though, run malwarebytes as a double check.

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#3
December 10, 2010 at 01:13:49
Thanks for the replies. I have been away for a couple of days hence the delay in responding. Interesting results. During the 'delay', the available memory was 1.28Gb and increasing and the CPU usage was a few percent at most. Later when Word ran, the CPU was near 100% and this was to a large extent due to avp (Kaspersky) and carbonite backup in addition to Word.

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#4
December 10, 2010 at 04:22:07
Make adjustments to back up program to work at specific times when you do not need it as much and if possible, let it update only what has changed. Else replace with better. Look for a replacement AV prog if it is hogging like that... If you have any remnants of an old AV prog that was not removed/deactivated, you could have a conflict there that is creating the problem.

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#5
December 10, 2010 at 07:54:45
When Word sprung into life, so did these other programs. Very quickly afterwards the CPU usage was back to normal. It seems that all these programs were delayed by the same cause. Only during this 'delay' period after start up are things not happening normally. The CPU usage is normally in single figures and memory about 1Gb, half.

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#6
December 10, 2010 at 14:21:59
A delay just after start up is normal due to some Windows subsystems still coming online and your antivirus program loading. AV programs try very hard to be the first to load to prevent an infection getting a foothold and possibly interfering with it's operation. That said, 10 minutes is MUCH too long for this process, 10-30 seconds (maybe one minute would be OK too) is more normal. Open msconfig, go to the Start tab and uncheck nearly everything that is not Microsoft or your AV program, restart and see if that helps. If not, uncheck the AV program and restart as an experiment (do not use the internet until you reactivate it or replace it) and see what you get.

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#7
December 11, 2010 at 00:30:52
its normal that cpu usage goes up to 100% when a large program starts, thats not really an issue although its should only be for a few seconds.
i would recommend losing all your anti virus programs, and getting MS security essentials, its free, works well and runs very quietly in the background.
If you have been running this system for a while, it may be a good idea to do a full sweep, clean out all old program files, old files and folders and maybe even do a factory reset after saving your files of course, sometimes a re install can fix all those irritating liitle issues that pop up after a year or so....

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#8
December 11, 2010 at 19:22:38
I must be either very lucky or very careful, because I only had to reload windows once back during windows 95 after a nasty slipped by McAfee AV. I believe I used that Windows 95 machine for around 7 years and an XP machine for over 9 years (plus others at work) and Windows 7 for most of a year and that was the only time I needed to reinstall.

In extreme cases, it may be the best answer and can eliminate many hours of detective work trying to figure out the problem.

You may want to test your RAM though for errors, use Memtest (download ISO image and burn CDr) you just boot to CD and let it run through all of it's tests. If it finds any errors, run again with one stick of memory at a time to find bad stick.

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#9
December 18, 2010 at 09:06:43
I have examined the system during start up and have loaded Processor Explorer as suggested. There is not any process using unreasonable amounts of cpu, memory or I/O.

Also as proposed, I guess I shall have to spend time over Xmas reloading Windows and all the updates.

Thanks for all the suggestions.


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