Solved My 486 machine won't boot up , Dos 6.2 and Win 3.1

August 19, 2015 at 11:10:57
Specs: Windows 7
Ok, Sorry my Title is misleading but I cannot edit it, so if a moderator can do I would appreciate that, not my good Ist starting post !

Title should have been "My 486 machine won't boot up , Dos 6.2 and Win 3.1"

thanks in advance for trying to help me, I have an old engraving machine that runs on Dos, and also some engraving related software that runs under win 3.1, and once I finish planning my job or project, using this engraving software running under win3.1, this engraving software then allows me to save my job files as well as export the job file to another program where that is imported and runs my engraving machine, I had a job where I needed to scan a logo that needed engraving, so i got my scanner out and tried configuring it to this engraving software, ( like selecting printers for example, so i had to tell this engraving software what scanner i was using and already its drivers were loaded in the windows 3.1, only that this engraving software had to be configured to allow that scanner to scan image and input its tiff or twain data into this software, so whilst i was trying to do this, my computer froze, and had to be forced shut down, and now it won't boot up again not even in dos, since it always booted in Dos first, from where it comes up with a page that allowed me to choose if I want to boot up in Dos or in windows, but I am not even able to get to this far before I can ask it to boot in dos or in windows, the screen remains dead, no nothing, and I tried a few on/off attempts, it may suddenly boot up but most times it does not, so i also tried inserting any random floppy disc, it then starts to boot up and comes up with a message like not a system boot disc, please remove disc and try again, so when I remove disc, it then continues to boot up from main C drive and that is how I can still use it, but this is not how it used to be, has my registry file been altered and gone corrupted? if so how do I get to correct it?

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#1
August 19, 2015 at 11:33:46
A long shot but turn off then remove domestic power. Before re-assembling hold the Power Off/On button down for at least 20 seconds to discharge the motherboard components. Probably too hopeful but has been known to unstick computers at times.

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#2
August 19, 2015 at 12:55:03
Thanks Derek, I had already carried out this long reset by removing power cord from the mains, virtually all day, and when I switch on the computer from its front panel on/off button, all the lights on the front come up, green for power, orange for Hard disc, another orange for Turbo, and the old style CRT monitor screen remains blank, I can even hear the hard disc chattering away, then stops, the floppy drive light also comes on briefly and so when it does not find any disc in A drive, it resumes booting up from the main hard drive (C drive) but fails, with nothing showing on the screen, could it be the system is actually ok and booting up as I can hear the HD chatter, so may be the screen is packing away, as it is linked to computer (energy saving) so may be it is not awaking up, may be I will need to investigate that as a possibility first, with another monitor i have.

Under normal circumstances here is how it works:

A few seconds after power button, screen lights up and shows:
MS-Dos 6.22 Startup Menu

1. Readme
2. Windows
3. Dos based software
4. Remove Menu (Not recommended)

so this is where I choose from if I need to run a dos or a win application by entering its number.

I also see another light that flashes on the monitor but does not flash when nothing comes up on the monitor, so quite likely it has been booting up ok except may be the monitor is playing up.

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#3
August 19, 2015 at 14:38:35
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The main thing was to press the Power Off/On button for a while the cord is removed - but I guess you've done that.

Yes, if you can try your monitor on another computer (or another monitor on this one) it would be good to eliminate it from the equation.

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#4
August 19, 2015 at 15:47:59
Sorry Derek, I feel real bad now! for wasting your time as well as mine, should have checked basics first, as I must have disturbed the monitor cable/connector, this resulted in random operation, and funnily how inserting floppy drive actually helped I guess just a microscopic movement enabled the vga connector to make up contact and run OK, so now I have tightened the connector screws as they seemed a few turns out, and the problem has since gone, each time the computer fires up!

However, another lesson learned, now would you be able to advise me if these two programs I have one of which runs on DOS, and the other on Win 3.1 can be loaded into modern desk top PC and run OK? of course modern PCs don't have a parallel ports and both programs use a security dongle, without which neither program will run.

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#5
August 19, 2015 at 15:52:53
No problem, these things happen. Glad to hear you sorted it and thanks for letting us know.

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