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mouse vertical movement

December 10, 2009 at 16:10:55
Specs: Windows 3.1
After cleaning the rollers the mouse will not move vertically even when turning the vertical roller.
Is there a replacement mouse that will work on Winows 3.1? The driver is mscmouse.drv at present. I have tried a Chic mouse whic h is ok on a Vista machine but it will not work at all on the 3.1 machine.
Maybe I'll need to install another driver?

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December 10, 2009 at 16:41:03
Why are you posting a hardware question about Windows 3.11 in the Windows 7 forum?

Are you using a serial or PS/2 mouse? Either way, Google for that type of mouse and you will find replacements. Buy a new mouse. Look at the link below. There is a Microsoft unit for $7.

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December 11, 2009 at 16:43:28
Many thanks for quick response. Sorry: as a newcomer I did not realize that I was in Window 7 forum.
I have ordered a logitech ps2 serial mouse that is indicated as OK for Windows 3.1 Hope it works as I have tried other mice that seem to be the same but do not work at all.
I will let you know if the new one works or not

Two other odd things have happened with the Genius Mouse neither is a serious problem

1. Sometimes the pointer changes to the clock icon.
2. When switching to drive A or D the pointer becomes an eraser abot the sme same size as the clock icon. I discovered that this can be overcome by (having started MSWorks) runninq a qbasic program in DOS

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December 11, 2009 at 16:49:06
Those are features for mouse pointers in later versions of Windows. Did you install a mouse driver? Or you may have a third party program to enhance mouse controls.

Been so long since I used Windows 3.1 that it is foggy.

Out of curiosity, why are you running such an old OS?

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December 12, 2009 at 13:13:07
I am still using windows 3.1 as it does all that I need - At age 81 I'm rather behind the times.
The mouse driver was on the computer when I bought it 2nd hand) and is MSCMOUSE.DRV
One thing I've spotted is that in MSD (MS diagnostics) the report shows the mouse as having horizontal resolution 490 and vertical resolution zero - this report does not apparently check the actual mouse because the report is the same whether the mous is connected or not.
I am now learning for the first time all the keystrokes that do what the mouse does - like resizing or moving a window.
Actually as treasurer of our village hall I am gradually gettig used to using this modern computer running Windows Vista and need to somehow transfer quite a few files from the old Olivetti comoputer. Not easy as the latter only writes to floppy discs and the new one has not got a floppy drive- hopefully I can get the new and old linked Otherwise I have another Computer with Millenium Windows whic has a floppy drive and a USB port so I can us that as a transfer medium - rather time cosuming.

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December 12, 2009 at 13:53:29
There is an issue of folks posting in the wrong forums. I am a moderator here and am trying to find out why this happens. Do you know why you selected the Windows 7 forum?

There is a list of forums to the right of this box. I don't understand why the wrong forum is chosen.

Then again, I don't know how folks find their way here either.

Do you recall the steps that got you here?

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December 13, 2009 at 14:23:13
How I arrived at this forum? I started off enterimg something like mouse vertical movement problem in the Google search which led me to many related items. I then selected one that looked promising and eventually registered and enterd my message. I had not noticed the various forums on the right until later.
My problem is almost certainly due to the computer as another mouse exhibits the same fault. I have the original Windows 3.1 installation discs so perhaps I need to reinstall, or perhaps replace the mscmouse.drv with the one on the disc.
Can I transfer my story to the Windows 3.1 forum and if so how?

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December 13, 2009 at 14:51:53
perhaps I should explain that these messages are via a computer running Windows Vista but the problem is on my other computer that is not connected to the internet so it is unlikely that a virus is the cause.

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December 13, 2009 at 15:17:04
Well, one of the moderators for the Windows 7 forum evidently moved this thread to the Win 3.1 forum. Hardware would probably have been OK too.

I am still curious how so many users post in the wrong forum.

I don't think a virus is the reason your mouse is not working correctly. Using the mouse driver in Win3.1 may correct the problem.

And you didn't do anything wrong. Somehow links place folks in a forum without them choosing it.

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December 14, 2009 at 07:59:17
Hey guys not to trying to highjac the thread I just wanted to mention that a Terminal program and serial ports on each end and file transfers can be done pretty easily...

Keep the old stuff running

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December 14, 2009 at 13:44:28
did you try the same mouse on a different computer?

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December 16, 2009 at 12:01:07
No because the mouse had a 9 pin D connecter and I don't have a adapter for PS2
The genius mouse is 3 key, but the new Logitech one that arrived today has 2 It has a ps2 connecter and I have got an adapter (somewhere) to 9 pin D
I did try changing the drive in the windows\config.sys to a logitech mouse drive but then windows woild not start on boot up. Perhaps I will try reinstalling windows 3.1 as I still have the floppy discs - be as well to scandisk them first.

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December 16, 2009 at 13:30:36

Have you gotten the PS/2 mouse to work with the adapter? I am not sure that will work.

I don't think re-installing Win3.1 to get the mouse working will help. You already have an active serial port working. Why didn't you just buy a serial mouse?

One of the mice in the link I provided comes with the Serial to PS/2 adapter and states that it will work in Win95. Is that what you bought?

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December 16, 2009 at 15:23:05
most ps2/serial mice work with windows 3.1

ps2 to serial adapter works
serial to ps2 adapter works

make shure your serial port is enabled under the bios

you test the mouse from dos first


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December 16, 2009 at 16:05:54
I've mislaid the adaprter so need to buy another
The mouse is serial ps/2 Logitech First/ Pilot Wheel
M/N M-BE58
The MSD program indicates the following related to the mouse (Pity I can't paste the actual reports)
Driver Manufacturer Microsoft
DOS Driver Version 1.ea
Mouse IRQ 12
Number of Buttons 3
Horizontal Sensitivity 490
Vertical Sensitivity 0 (that looks
Threshold speed 766
Mouse Language English

IRQ Status
IRQ Description Detected Handled By
4 Com1:Com2 COM1 Gmouse.Com
12 (Reserved)) No Mouse Default Handlers
You are correct - reinstalling Windows 3.1 did not help - in fact I have lost a few fonts
I will let you know results when I gat the adapter

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December 17, 2009 at 08:25:02
Found the adapter ps/2 f to 9pin D f and used wndows setup to change mouse from Genius to Logitech ( there is a Logitech mouse driver on the hard drive dated about 1992 I guess) . Result is no pointer at all!!
Do I need a later driver to suit the new mouse and Windows 3.1?
I.m getting used to not having a mouse but it is a bit tedious.

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December 17, 2009 at 08:48:20

Look at the link below. The string for that mouse is wheelmouse1. However, I couldn't bring up any drivers and the site states the list of mice are compatible back to Win95. Don't say anything about Win3.1.

Perhaps labeling it correctly will solve the problem.

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December 17, 2009 at 12:15:59
just as long as it is dos compatable
it should be win3x compatable

ahh no mouse...

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December 19, 2009 at 04:49:23
Problem overcome - a freind has let me have another mouse (2 button with ball) and with a different driver whic I found in the Windows setup menu all is back to normal
Thaks for all your time and advice


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December 19, 2009 at 07:23:04
Glad you sorted it out. Thanks for getting back to us.

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January 20, 2010 at 15:25:41
Late but fyi MSCMOUSE probably does not refer to Microsoft
but to Mouse Systems. A mouse not compatible with microsoft

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