I don't have diskette, just install CD

December 13, 2010 at 12:15:45
Specs: wfw 3.11, amd celeron??/4gb??
The install diskette will no longer let me use it to install OS from CD. I did it too many times before learning how to update virus database and exceeded the maximum number of installs from the diskette.

How do i install this OS without a functional and cooperative install diskette? I have the OS Install CD but that is it. The diskette asks for a code/number that I do not have.


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#1
December 13, 2010 at 12:28:29
"The install diskette will no longer let me use it to install OS from CD. I did it too many times before learning how to update virus database and exceeded the maximum number of installs from the diskette."

Precisely what is it your trying to install (presumably Win3.1 since you posted here and reference it in your specs) and how (with DOS or under a virtual machine)? Is it floppy disks you're trying to use or a CD?

Windows 3.1 shouldn't have a limit on installs (unless the disks themselves have become corrupted or "gone bad"), and updating a virus database shouldn't matter. What does matter is that whether you use a "standard" install (under some type of DOS) or virtual machine (such as MSVPC), you still have to have some type of DOS installed before Windows 3.1 (which BTW isn't an OS---its a GUI). It won't install without its' underlying OS (DOS)

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#2
December 19, 2010 at 13:27:46
I am trying to install from CD

the associated diskette asks for some kind of serial number or something

the install CD used to install DOS first perhaps from the diskette??

my lack of ability in updating the virus database is how the OS got corrupted in the first place necessitating it being reinstalled to fix

i never understood that OS sufficiently to be able to describe/explain better
but i do like its stability and built in virus database

i never did master its use though

win95 and following were easier to use
i'm on a win7 laptop now but have considered partitioning the HDD and installing a few other OSes (open source/win95/wfw3.11/linux...)


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#3
December 21, 2010 at 02:47:44
"I am trying to install from CD
the associated diskette asks for some kind of serial number or something
the install CD used to install DOS first perhaps from the diskette??"

If DOS and Windows are on the same CD, you'll need something to allow your machine to boot with CD-Rom support. Likely find what you need below; but make sure you understand what you are doing---you'll need to completely install DOS first before Windows, and you shouldn't try multi-boot yet until you're more familiar with DOS commands. You "shouldn't" need serial numbers for either---though if it's the official version of DOS/Win3.1 on CD from MS, then that may be different (never used that "rare" version). You would have more success doing this on an old machine rather than mucking with your current system---though a Virtual Machine setup would prove less dangerous.

http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

"i never understood that OS sufficiently to be able to describe/explain better
but i do like its stability and built in virus database"

There was no "built-in" virus database for Windows 3.1, however MS-DOS 6.x (with some Windows extensions) came with a rudimentary virus scanner MSAV (Microsoft Anti-Virus):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSAV

As the Wikipedia link indicated, it was only updated once after being introduced, and therefore wasn't very useful at the time (compared to the DOS versions of McAfee or Norton). As a side benefit however, there aren't a lot of viruses around that attack DOS/Win3.x anymore, so there's scant use for a DOS virus program these days (though I'm sure there is stuff floating around out there somewhere).

As far as stability, DOS was about as rock solid as anything Microsoft ever produced since it was pretty much totally in control of the machines' hardware. Windows 3.x had it's share of problems (especially at first with Windows 3.0 - few can forget the UAE errors when they popped up). Again, Windows 3.x was not an OS; it was a GUI which ran on top of DOS.

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#4
December 25, 2010 at 06:17:36
The install program is asking for the properly labelled floppies. The CD program that created the floppies labelled them in proper order. If you have the right CD I believe there is an install that do the installation directly to the HD.

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