Connecting to the Internet

November 3, 2010 at 18:48:45
Specs: Windows XP, AMD Athlon 64 X2/2GB OCZ Gold RAM
I got this old dinosaur Windows 3.11 for Workgroups up and running through DOSBox almost entirely just for the hell of it and so I can run old Windows 3.11 applications more conveniently and also so I can have that old Sound Blaster 16 MIDI output I missed. I was wanting to connect to the internet with it but after following instructions on how to do this, I keep getting an error they didn't account for in the instructions that says:

The Windows for Workgroups network was not started. Check your configuration, or run Setup again to set up Windows for Workgroups properly.

The Windows for Workgroups network driver was unable to load.

What can I do to fix this? I try internet explorer anyway but it doesn't load anything. I searched up a few solutions already but they don't work for me. This error goes away if I disable the network settings but then I won't be able to connect to the internet without that.


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#1
November 4, 2010 at 05:12:10
DOSbox is not a very good virtual shell for running win 3.11 on the internet. But, it can be done. I have win 3.11 in my dosbox folder and use it for testing programs for my oldie machine that runs 3.11 on its own.

The first thing you have to get is the network driver for your card. Not an easy thing as most network card drivers for 3.11 are getting scarce for new ethernet cards. More likely that they are unavailable. Period.

So you must have the network adapter software to get the network running. If you can find the 3.11 driver, it will most likely be a file called - oemsetup.inf.

Once the the adapter is in the list you can get the protocols setup for the adapter.

Let me know what make and model of card you have.


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#2
November 4, 2010 at 06:27:38
It's an integrated ethernet card entitled "NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller" according to device manager. I'm not sure what the model or make is because it's integrated like said. How would I go about finding out? And thanks for taking the time to help me, I was at a dead end. =D

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#3
November 4, 2010 at 07:37:17
If you can open a dos window (not in dosbox) and type: ipconfig /all - it should tell you the exact adapter. I suspect it is a realtek family and a 3.11 network driver for that adapter almost certainly does not exist.

You would have to physically put another card - an oldish one - into one of your available card slots. If you work in an office and ask your IT department to rummage through the junk room for a 3com XL family or DLink 530 type of ethernet card. Tons of old ethernet cards are everywhere. They are more common in IT department junk rooms than the old computers they were stripped from. For some reason, old junk like 90s ethernet cards, even the token ring adapters, pile up in many office hardware junkrooms. Not to mention other things like S3 Virge video cards live on waiting to installed on an old system.


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#4
November 4, 2010 at 14:46:42
It just says the same thing "NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller". I did some searching around and found a very early version of drivers (4.0.1 or something and I have 50 something) for it referenced on pages on Google and one claimed this version 4 driver worked on Windows 3.11 but haven't had any luck finding them yet because these websites are all just garbage sites that try to install their software on to my computer or they link to a nvidia page that doesn't have what I'm looking for.

I have the driver for an emulated network card the guy supplied who I followed the instruction of but I guess it doesn't work or else I wouldn't be having this problem. lol


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#5
November 5, 2010 at 03:57:54
You are right. Several sites make money out of getting you to download their crappy card ident software. Which ultimately can put your computer security at risk. You have done well to be careful about that.

As I say, an older ethernet card can do the job. Since I have a few computers around here, I don't need to bother with virtually running old operating systems.

I had a quick look myself at your card and it seems to be as you say a version 50. From what I could gather from my quick scan of the situation, this on-board card won't have driver that will work for the 3.11 operating system. Again, I didn't look that intensely.

I would give you an older ethernet card as I have several of them kicking around. If you know someone who works in an IT department or such, just ask them to get you a 3com xl or 905 or dlink dfe-530tx. They are very common oldies and are still usable with the modern operating systems.


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#6
November 5, 2010 at 09:15:00
Alright, thanks, I will look into it when possible. And yeah I didn't find any Windows 3.11 drivers for my integrated card after a thorough search so I am going to have to try your route. Thanks again.

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#7
November 5, 2010 at 12:30:20
http://www.georgpotthast.de/sioux/p...

This is an ODI Driver it may be feasible to use this for WfW3.11:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/108807


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