Can't get networking to work

February 10, 2012 at 23:43:52
Specs: Windows for Workgroups 3.11
Well, this is probably the inevitable follow-up to my last question, but I got my 3Com Etherlink III in the mail today, plugged it into the motherboard, and got myself underway. Unfortunately, even following a guide for setting things up to use TCP/IP protocols, things have come back and smacked me in the face. It took ages to even get networking to work, since for some reason IFSHLP.SYS wasn't installed. After reinstalling Windows, I finally got networking to start, but the results weren't what I'd hoped. I got the following two error messages:

"Your network adapter MS$ELNK3 is not working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information, see "Troubleshooting" in your "Workgroup Add-On User's Guide."

The following error occurred while loading protocol number 0.
Error 58: The network has responded incorrectly. You may need to reconfigure the protocol using Network Setup. If your computer is a portable, make sure it is connected to its docking station."

I'm assuming the first problem is some sort of driver issue, but Windows came standard with support for this card so I can't see how that'd be the problem. The second is a mystery to me. Is it possible that it's just not compatible with modern-style internet? I wouldn't think so since I have heard of people getting these things online, but hell, what do I know?


See More: Cant get networking to work

Report •

#1
February 11, 2012 at 05:01:49
You really need Windows XP or later for broadband internet.
Windows 3.1x was okay for dial-up but that's all history now.

I can't believe you are still using a version of Windows that was introduced 20 years ago! Technology has moved forward considerably since then but you haven't it seems. You are just making life difficult for yourself.


Report •

#2
February 11, 2012 at 09:15:55
I have moved forward. That's how I was able to post this despite being unable to get the network card moving; I do primarily use another computer, you know. I'm just working on this other one for fun. Also, according to this guide it should be totally possible to use cable internet with 3.11: http://web.archive.org/web/20080704...

Report •

#3
February 11, 2012 at 09:42:04
"You really need Windows XP or later for broadband internet."

No you don't. All you need are the connections and appropriate protocols to navigate. I've done it with DSL using everything from WfWG 3.11 to Win2K on a low-end Pentium (long ago). And there's hundreds of other operating-systems (Linux in particular) designed for broadband...

"I can't believe you are still using a version of Windows that was introduced 20 years ago! Technology has moved forward considerably since then but you haven't it seems. You are just making life difficult for yourself."

As the OP mentioned in his last post (and from his comments above), he's not using the machine for his primary connection. Personally, I applaud someone being able to make older machines work with newer technologies. If Win 3.1/WfWG was that dead, then this section of the forums wouldn't exist at all...

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


Report •

Related Solutions

#4
February 13, 2012 at 07:38:21
Steer Clear of the NAY SAYERS
I remember having a hard time with IRQ conflicts with WFW, the trick I used was to configure the NIC without it being able to share an IRQ with anything else.
Later tonight I can dig a little deeper into it for you then.
Do stick around as someone could post a message soon to this thread with a setup like yours.
Their are some old die hard fans of those days in computing that are all over this board I'm sure we can have you online with it soon.
Do check as deep as you can here on CN as this topic has been addressed many times here and I am thinking back almost 13 years or more when I first stumbled on to this site, there search feature could help you here a lot...

HTH

Keep the old stuff running


Report •

#5
February 13, 2012 at 17:22:59
Here are some threads you may want to check deeper into, I used "C3509" for the search

http://www.computing.net/cgi-bin/AT...

If you still have problems would you please post all info about your machine that you can, also if you would, post your config.sys + autoexec.bat + win.ini files.
Is this a new install or a machine you came across?

Keep us posted as to where you are at with this - please -

Keep the old stuff running


Report •

#6
February 15, 2012 at 07:15:01
WFW on broadband is not straightforward. However, when you know how it is easy.

If you have a DHCP server (which is pretty much standard these days) all you have to make sure of is putting the right info in the network TCP/IP section.

Make sure you tick the DHCP box. Then you can put in the gateway, a token IP address (you'll get assigned one from the DHCP anyway), the subnet mask, the dns servers.

I have a fantastic card made for the job.

TRENDware TE-PCI/TE-100PCI Ethernet Adapter.

The good thing about the software for this card is that it is easy to switch on and off the DOS packet driver when outside of the Win 3.11 shell. So surfing using DOSLYNX and other DOS internet programs is not difficult.

I'm going to have to make a youtube vid demonstrating this stuff.


Report •

#7
February 18, 2012 at 00:13:44
@LinuxOS2: Unfortunately, none of the links you posted in the search had any relevance to my particular problem. They were mostly suggestions for network cards and people stating that they own them. If it is an IRQ conflict, how would I go about resolving that? The setup options for it don't have a dropdown or anything for it; it just says it's automatically detected. Would I have to physically move the card to a different ISA slot, or what?

@MisterGopher: Thanks, although I've already got a guide to actually getting the network running along the same lines. The problem isn't getting connected, though. The problem is that it's telling me the card isn't working properly in the first place, thus not letting me even make an ATTEMPT at connecting.

I'm grasping at straws here. It's been so long since I even had a computer running an operating system this old, and I never had one that ran on a network. Hell, I don't think I ever even used dial-up until a few years after this OS had become obsolete. Any ideas at all as to how to get the card working properly would be greatly appreciated.


Report •

#8
February 20, 2012 at 06:16:37
please post your config.sys + autoexec.bat + win.ini files

Keep the old stuff running


Report •

#9
February 20, 2012 at 13:19:34
CONFIG.SYS
--------------------

DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE
DOS=HIGH
FILES=30
DEVICEHIGH=\CDROM\CDROM.SYS
LASTDRIVE=Z
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
STACKS=9,256

AUTOEXEC.BAT
------------------------

C:\WINDOWS\net start
SET MGA=C:\MGA\SETUP
CALL C:\Sndscape\InitSS.bat
C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /X
@ECHO OFF
PROMPT $p$g
PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOS
SET TEMP=C:\DOS
SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\CDROM
LH C:\WINDOWS\MSCDEX.EXE /S /D:12345678 /L:D
LH MOUSE
C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM

WIN.INI
-----------

[windows]
spooler=yes
NetWarn=1
NetMessage=Yes
load=C:\MGA\CPANEL\MGACTRL.EXE
run=
Beep=yes
NullPort=None
BorderWidth=3
CursorBlinkRate=530
DoubleClickSpeed=452
Programs=com exe bat pif
Documents=
DeviceNotSelectedTimeout=15
TransmissionRetryTimeout=45
KeyboardDelay=2
KeyboardSpeed=31
ScreenSaveActive=1
ScreenSaveTimeOut=120
CoolSwitch=1

[Desktop]
Pattern=136 84 69 136 21 34 81
TileWallPaper=1
IconSpacing=75
wallpaper=thatch.bmp

[Extensions]
crd=cardfile.exe ^.crd
trm=terminal.exe ^.trm
txt=notepad.exe ^.txt
ini=notepad.exe ^.ini
pcx=pbrush.exe ^.pcx
bmp=pbrush.exe ^.bmp
wri=write.exe ^.wri
rec=recorder.exe ^.rec
hlp=winhelp.exe ^.hlp
mmf=msmail.exe /f ^.hlp
ZIP=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.ZIP
LZH=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.LZH
ARJ=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.ARJ
ARC=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.ARC
TAR=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.TAR
TAZ=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.TAZ
TGZ=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.TGZ
TZ=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.TZ
GZ=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.GZ
Z=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.Z
UU=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.UU
UUE=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.UUE
XXE=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.XXE
B64=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.B64
HQX=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.HQX
BHX=C:\WINZIP\winzip.exe ^.BHX
mpg=C:\XING\XMPLAYER\XMPLAYER.EXE ^.
vbs=C:\XING\XMPLAYER\XMPLAYER.EXE ^.
mpv=C:\XING\XMPLAYER\XMPLAYER.EXE ^.
mp3=C:\ProgramF\win16\WinPlay3\winplay3.exe ^.mp3
INF=notepad.exe ^.INF
IMA=C:\WINIMAGE\WINIMA16.EXE ^.IMA
IMG=C:\WINIMAGE\WINIMA16.EXE ^.IMG
IMZ=C:\WINIMAGE\WINIMA16.EXE ^.IMZ
DSK=C:\WINIMAGE\WINIMA16.EXE ^.DSK
WIL=C:\WINIMAGE\WINIMA16.EXE ^.WIL
WLZ=C:\WINIMAGE\WINIMA16.EXE ^.WLZ

[intl]
sLanguage=enu
sCountry=United States
iCountry=1
iDate=0
iTime=0
iTLZero=0
iCurrency=0
iCurrDigits=2
iNegCurr=0
iLzero=1
iDigits=2
iMeasure=1
s1159=AM
s2359=PM
sCurrency=$
sThousand=,
sDecimal=.
sDate=/
sTime=:
sList=,
sShortDate=M/d/yy
sLongDate=dddd, MMMM dd, yyyy

[ports]
; A line with [filename].PRN followed by an equal sign causes
; [filename] to appear in the Control Panel's Printer Configuration dialog
; box. A printer connected to [filename] directs its output into this file.
; The file must be on one of your local drives; you cannot print to a network
; file.
LPT1:=
LPT2:=
LPT3:=
COM1:=9600,n,8,1,x
COM2:=9600,n,8,1,x
COM3:=9600,n,8,1,x
COM4:=9600,n,8,1,x
EPT:=
FILE:=
LPT1.DOS=
LPT2.DOS=

[FontSubstitutes]
Helv=MS Sans Serif
Tms Rmn=MS Serif
Times=Times New Roman
Helvetica=Arial

[TrueType]

[mci extensions]
wav=waveaudio
mid=sequencer
rmi=sequencer
avi=AVIVideo
mpg=MpegVideo
mpv=MpegVideo
dat=MpegVideo
vbs=MpegVideo

[Compatibility]
TURBOTAX=0x0008000
W4GLR=0x4000
W4GL=0x4000
NETSET2=0x0100
GUIDE=0x1000
EXCEL=0x1000
APORIA=0x0100
ED=0x000100000
PLUS=0x1000
PR2=0x2000
CHARISMA=0x2000
WINSIM=0x2000
DRAW=0x2000
PLANNER=0x2000
DESIGNER=0x2000
PM4=0x2000
MILESV3=0x1000
_BNOTES=0x24000
MCOURIER=0x0800
VISION=0x0040
PACKRAT=0x0800
WIN2WRS=0x1210
VB=0x0200
TME=0x0100
JW=0x42080
CP=0x0040
PIXIE=0x0040
REM=0x8022
AMIPRO=0x0010
CCMAIL=0x0008
WPWINFIL=0x0006
NOTSHELL=0x0001

[winsetup]
source_disk_path=E:\

[embedding]
SoundRec=Sound,Sound,SoundRec.exe,picture
Package=Package,Package,packager.exe,picture
PBrush=Paintbrush Picture,Paintbrush Picture,pbrush.exe,picture
MPlayer=Media Clip,Media Player,mplayer.exe,picture

[drawdib]
vga.drv 640x480x4(0)=1,0,0,0

[Quick Access]
ShowVertical=ON

[WinPlay3]
ProgramFile=C:\PROGRAMF\WIN16\WINPLAY3\WINPLAY3.EXE

[xing]
XingVideo=C:\XING\XMPLAYER

[WinG]
mgax64.drv800x600x24(6,12)v1.61.4.0-26ED-1.0.0.37N=ZZCCZZZZIHZZCCZZIHZZDDZZGGZZDDZZGGZZZZZZZZZZZ

[sounds]
SystemAsterisk=ding.wav,Asterisk
SystemHand=ding.wav,Critical Stop
SystemDefault=ding.wav,Default Beep
SystemExclamation=ding.wav,Exclamation
RingIn=ringin.wav,Incoming Call
RingOut=ringout.wav,Outgoing Call
SystemQuestion=ding.wav,Question
SystemExit=chimes.wav,Windows Exit
SystemStart=C:\WINDOWS\TADA.WAV,Windows Start

[Network]
Restore=0

[fonts]
Arial (TrueType)=ARIAL.FOT
Arial Bold (TrueType)=ARIALBD.FOT
Arial Bold Italic (TrueType)=ARIALBI.FOT
Arial Italic (TrueType)=ARIALI.FOT
Courier New (TrueType)=COUR.FOT
Courier New Bold (TrueType)=COURBD.FOT
Courier New Bold Italic (TrueType)=COURBI.FOT
Courier New Italic (TrueType)=COURI.FOT
Times New Roman (TrueType)=TIMES.FOT
Times New Roman Bold (TrueType)=TIMESBD.FOT
Times New Roman Bold Italic (TrueType)=TIMESBI.FOT
Times New Roman Italic (TrueType)=TIMESI.FOT
WingDings (TrueType)=WINGDING.FOT
Roman (Plotter)=ROMAN.FON
Script (Plotter)=SCRIPT.FON
Modern (Plotter)=MODERN.FON
small fonts (VGA res)=SMALLE.FON
Symbol (TrueType)=SYMBOL.FOT
Symbol 8,10,12,14,18,24 (VGA res)=SYMBOLE.FON
MS Serif 8,10,12,14,18,24 (VGA res)=SERIFE.FON
Courier 10,12,15 (VGA res)=COURE.FON
MS Sans Serif 8,10,12,14,18,24 (VGA res)=SSERIFE.FON


Report •

#10
February 21, 2012 at 05:41:17
Actually SYSTEM.INI is more useful to see. PROTOCOL.INI settings would also be interesting to see.

Report •

#11
February 24, 2012 at 02:01:38
SYSTEM.INI
------------------

[boot]
shell=progman.exe
network.drv=wfwnet.drv
mouse.drv=mouse.drv
language.dll=
sound.drv=mmsound.drv
comm.drv=comm.drv
system.drv=system.drv
386grabber=MGAVGA.3GR
oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
display.drv=MGAX64.DRV
keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv
286grabber=vgacolor.gr2
SCRNSAVE.EXE=C:\WINDOWS\SSSTARS.SCR
drivers=mmsystem.dll msmixmgr.dll winmm16.dll

[keyboard]
keyboard.dll=
oemansi.bin=
subtype=
type=4

[boot.description]
mouse.drv=Microsoft, or IBM PS/2
language.dll=English (American)
system.drv=MS-DOS System
codepage=437
woafont.fon=English (437)
aspect=100,96,96
display.drv=Matrox MGA 24-bit 16.7M Colors
keyboard.typ=Enhanced 101 or 102 key US and Non US keyboards
network.drv=Microsoft Windows Network (version 3.11)
secondnet.drv=No Additional Network Installed

[386Enh]
device=*vpd
mouse=*vmd
display=VDDX64.386
EGA80WOA.FON=EGA80WOA.FON
EGA40WOA.FON=EGA40WOA.FON
CGA80WOA.FON=CGA80WOA.FON
CGA40WOA.FON=CGA40WOA.FON
device=vtdapi.386
device=vshare.386
device=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WIN32S\W32S.386
device=dva.386
device=sscpvivo.386
ebios=*ebios
keyboard=*vkd
network=*vnetbios,*vwc,vnetsup.386,vredir.386,vserver.386
netheapsize=20
device=*vcd
device=*vpicd
device=*vtd
device=*reboot
device=*vdmad
device=*vsd
device=*v86mmgr
device=*pageswap
device=*dosmgr
device=*vmpoll
device=*wshell
device=*PAGEFILE
device=*BLOCKDEV
device=*vfd
device=*parity
device=*biosxlat
device=*vmcpd
device=*combuff
device=*cdpscsi
device=vpmtd.386
device=vcomm.386
device=serial.386
device=lpt.386
device=ifsmgr.386
device=vcache.386
local=CON
FileSysChange=off
COM3Irq=4
COM3Base=03E8
COM4Irq=3
COM4Base=02E8
PagingFile=C:\WINDOWS\WIN386.SWP
MaxPagingFileSize=53248

device=*Int13
device=C:\WINDOWS\MH32BIT.386
32BitDiskAccess=OFF
netmisc=ndis.386,ndis2sup.386,wsock.386,wstcp.386
netcard=elnk3.386
transport=nwlink.386,nwnblink.386,netbeui.386,vip.386,vdhcp.386,vtdi.386,vtcp.386,vnbt.386
InDosPolling=FALSE
TimerCriticalSection=10000
UniqueDOSPSP=TRUE
PSPIncrement=5
[NonWindowsApp]
localtsrs=dosedit,ced

[vcache]
minfilecache=512

[mci]
CDAudio=mcicda.drv
Sequencer=mciseq.drv
WaveAudio=mciwave.drv
AVIVideo=mciavi.drv
MpegVideo=XMDRIVER.DRV
CDIVideo=XMDRIVER.DRV

[drivers]
midimapper=midimap.drv
timer=timer.drv
MIDI=ssvivo31.drv
Wave=ssvivo31.drv
Aux=ssvivo31.drv
Mixer=ssvivo31.drv
wavemapper=msacm.drv
MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadpcm.acm
MSACM.msadpcm=msadpcm.acm
VIDC.CVID=iccvid.drv
VIDC.MSVC=msvidc.drv
VIDC.IV32=ir32.dll
VIDC.IV31=IR32.dll
VIDC.MRLE=MSRLE.drv
VIDC.RT21=ir21_r.dll
VIDC.YVU9=ir21_r.dll
MSACM.vct16151=vct16151.acm
VIDC.TR20=TR20.DRV
MSACM.vivog723=vvacm16.acm
VIDC.VIVO=vvvcm16.dll
MSACM.L3ACM=l3dec16.acm
VIDC.MPG4=MSSCR16.DRV
MSACM.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
dci=dcix64
vids.draw=udh.dll

[DDEShares]
CHAT$=winchat,chat,,31,,0,,0,0,0
SCHAT$=winchat,chat,,31,,0,,0,0,0
CLPBK$=clipsrv,system,,31,,0,,0,0,0
HEARTS$=mshearts,hearts,,15,,0,,0,0,0

[Network]
winnet=wfwnet/00025100
multinet=nonet
FileSharing=No
PrintSharing=No
LogonDisconnected=yes
EnableSharing=no
UserName=ZXDWARE
Workgroup=WORKGROUP
ComputerName=RETROCOMP
Comment=Ian M. Burton
PreferredRedir=BASIC

[network drivers]
devdir=C:\WINDOWS
LoadRMDrivers=No
netcard=elnk3.dos
transport=ndishlp.sys,*netbeui

[ssvivo31.drv]
Port=330
WavePort=534
OttoPort=2180
IRQ=9
SBIRQ=5
DMA=1
DMAADC=3
CfgMan=false
BoardType=1
DMABufferSize=32
SingleModeDMA=Yes
EnableAutoAcquire=Yes
Muted=FALSE
MicBoost=FALSE
StereoMic=FALSE
LeftMasterVol=65535
RightMasterVol=65535
LeftWaveVol=65535
RightWaveVol=65535
LeftSynthVol=51456
RightSynthVol=51456
LeftCDAuxVol=51456
RightCDAuxVol=51456
LeftMicLineVol=51456
RightMicLineVol=51456
ModemVol=51456
LeftTVVol=51456
RightTVVol=51456
LeftWaveADCCDAuxVol=65535
RightWaveADCCDAuxVol=65535
LeftWaveADCAll=65535
RightWaveADCAll=65535
WaveADCSource=All
LeftVoiceADCCDAuxVol=65535
RightVoiceADCCDAuxVol=65535
LeftVoiceADCMicVol=65535
RightVoiceADCMicVol=65535
LeftVoiceADCAll=65535
RightVoiceADCAll=65535
VoiceADCSource=All

[msacm.drv]
Playback=Soundscape (Wave) Wave Out
Record=Soundscape (Wave) Wave Input
PreferredOnly=0

[mga.drv]
DevBits=OFF
Rectangle=ON
AltPolygon=ON
Mode1Key=
Mode2Display=800x600x24,800x600,SMALL
Mode2Key=
Mode3Display=800x600x24,800x600,SMALL
Mode3Key=
Mode4Display=800x600x24,800x600,SMALL
Mode4Key=
ActFeatures=
UseKeys=
ModeUsed=Mode1
Mode1Display=800x600x24,800x600,SMALL
dpi=96
bpp=24
Use32Bpp=OFF

[msacm.imaadpcm]
MaxRTEncodeSetting=6
MaxRTDecodeSetting=6

[mciseq.drv]
disablewarning=true

[Password Lists]
*Shares=C:\WINDOWS\Share000.PWL

[NWNBLINK]
LANABASE=1

[MSTCP]
EnableRouting=0
Interfaces=ms$elnk30
deadgwdetect=1
pmtudiscovery=1

[DNS]
DomainName=
DNSDomains=

[ms$elnk30]
IPMask=0.0.0.0
IPAddress=0.0.0.0
Description=3Com EtherLink III
Binding=ms$elnk3

[NBT]
LANABASE=0
EnableProxy=0
EnableDNS=0


PROTOCOL.INI
-----------------------

[network.setup]
version=0x3110
netcard=ms$elnk3,1,MS$ELNK3,3
transport=ms$nwlinknb,NWLINK
transport=ms$ndishlp,MS$NDISHLP
transport=ms$netbeui,NETBEUI
transport=tcpip-32r,MSTCP32
lana0=ms$elnk3,1,tcpip-32r
lana1=ms$elnk3,1,ms$nwlinknb
lana2=ms$elnk3,1,ms$ndishlp
lana3=ms$elnk3,1,ms$netbeui

[protman]
DriverName=PROTMAN$
PRIORITY=MS$NDISHLP

[MS$ELNK3]
DriverName=ELNK3$

[NWLINK]

BINDINGS=MS$ELNK3
[MS$NDISHLP]
DriverName=ndishlp$
BINDINGS=MS$ELNK3

[NETBEUI]
DriverName=netbeui$
SESSIONS=10
NCBS=12
BINDINGS=MS$ELNK3
LANABASE=2

[MSTCP32]
BINDINGS=MS$ELNK3
LANABASE=0

[ELNK3]
Adapters=MS$ELNK3

Sorry it took me so long to get these up, but due to an age difference between computers here (i.e. no compatible means of file transfer from old to new) I have had to completely retype each file word-for-word into here in order to get them up.


Report •

#12
February 26, 2012 at 07:07:38
Need to ask, are you getting a link light when you attach the card to your router?
You sure have now got more of my attention realizing that you have had to type all that into your post, FYI there are some old tricks to make that task easier in the future, we can go over that at some other time.
When I first mentioned the IRQ conflicts I had to deal with, it was due to the fact I was trying to stuff everything I could into my machine at the time, what I did was remove and or disable anything that I did not need ie. sound card, lpt, serial ports and start the assembly with the minimum to begin with, bare in mind that it is possible to share an IRQ between devices but if my memory serves correct not with the NIC.

If you would please advise what ver. of DOS are you using and if you would, include complete details of the machine you have, along with any add on cards in the system and include the exact model number of your NIC, 3C509
is a large family of cards

Don't give up on this as I am sure you'll get a lot of satisfaction when all this is sorted out in the end


Report •

#13
February 26, 2012 at 14:56:00
In your SYSTEM.INI file I noticed under a critical section you have this:

[ms$elnk30]
IPMask=0.0.0.0
IPAddress=0.0.0.0
Description=3Com EtherLink III
Binding=ms$elnk3

It might help to have a DefaultGateway parameter.

In order to find that out, you will need call your provider OR hook up another computer and do an IPCONFIG in a DOS window.

As an example it should look something like:

[ms$elnk30]
DefaultGateway=88.105.68.1
IPMask=0.0.0.0
IPAddress=0.0.0.0
Description=3Com EtherLink III
Binding=ms$elnk3

That's not all.

Further up in the [DNS] section you have:

[DNS]
DomainName=
DNSDomains=

You may need to find out the DNSServers parameter - it is not unusual to have more than one. The same way as above using an IPCONFIG /ALL command in a DOS prompt. Also add a HostName to this section. Any name you want.

As an example the section should look thus:

[DNS]
DNSServers=192.172.4.100,192.172.8.100
HostName=zxdware (anything really)
DomainName=
DNSDomains=

As for PROTOCOL.INI it appears your card is recognized, but I would get the manufacturer driver instead of using the one in the Windows package.

It will set up the card much more effectively.

The key file you need is an .INF which should be in the package when you tell windows where to find it.

http://www.network-drivers.com/


Report •

#14
February 26, 2012 at 16:39:20
To MisterGopher
The first time I read the OP I was wandering if he had the right device driver installed for his system, can you, or do you remember the driver file that went with a 3C509?
Something about it seems as though it was setup or configured with some other
NIC than a 3com.. Too far back for me, how about you?

I sure want to see him get it online....

Keep the old stuff running


Report •

#15
February 27, 2012 at 13:55:11
To LinuxOS2

From his protocol.ini file it looks as though he used the windows databased driver. It is a bareboned setup - that's asking for trouble right there. It might have been okay for a small office intranet in the old days, but for full networking in TCP/IP I would much prefer the proper one. Once again it can be found here:

http://www.network-drivers.com/driv...


Report •

#16
February 28, 2012 at 11:29:56
Have you installed the updated (if you can call it that, from 1995) "MICROSOFT(R) TCP/IP-32 FOR WINDOWS(TM) FOR WORKGROUPS 3.11"?

It contains updated ELNK3.386, and at 673KB could even fit on a 720 floppy.

You can find it on Microsoft SOFTLIB, or my /win31 directory:

http://sdfox7.com/win31/TCP32B.EXE
http://sdfox7.com/win31/TCP32B.TXT

ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/softlib/MSLFILES/TCP32B.EXE

www.sdfox7.com


Report •

#17
February 28, 2012 at 11:42:59
To sdfox7:

Good point. It is important.



Report •

#18
March 26, 2012 at 12:01:38
I recently did this on virtualbox and it was a pain in the butt. It boils down to installing the correct drivers for your NIC and then installing the TCPIP stack. If you want to get on the internet, then theres Internet Explorer 5.something. Its the newest 16 bit browser I could find. But be warned, It can't handle javascript very well and many sites will not load properly.

ASCII question, get an ANSI


Report •

#19
March 27, 2012 at 12:27:31
To enjoy WFW these days you have to use it for what it was designed for when it came out 20 years ago.

No one used Flash, Java, etc in 1993.

However, if you need email, basic browsing, and office software, it works perfectly.

If you want a more modern platform than that you'll need to upgrade to Windows 95.


Report •

#20
March 27, 2012 at 17:41:09
@sdfox7

Agreed. It's primarily a hobby project to run it on the internet and even more importantly on broadband. Some would believe it impossible and today I would have too had I not done it myself.

Considering the age of NICs required with the drivers to set it up, a user brought up on XP would have to expect a learning curve.

But when one finally does set up WFW on an old PC with broadband, they soon find that it is DOS and a textual view of the internet as the best way to utilize the system - considering there are no new 16 bit browsers created to handle web 2.0 as they coin it.

Another success in I have accomplished is IRC for DOS. Some people who I chat to are fascinated that it is still possible to use DOS for dalnet.


Report •

Ask Question