adding internet to win 3.1

September 6, 2010 at 18:33:44
Specs: Windows 3.1
I have a NEC Versa with Win 3.1. I am trying to add IE and have a disk. I cannot fine a way to access the floppy drive. I have been unsuccessfully researching how to add a start button and MY COMPUTER.. Can anyone help?

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#1
September 6, 2010 at 19:27:58
Do you have any experience with Win3.1? You don't need a Start button or My Computer. You can add Internet Explorer 5.01 but at 8.9MB, it's way too big to fit on a floppy:

http://www.oldapps.com/internet_exp...


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#2
September 6, 2010 at 20:49:18
As jam mentions, there's no (native) start button on Win3.1. You could try Calmira if you want something like a Win9x style desktop, but you'll either need to get a floppy/CD drive going or get the internet working to get anything added to the machine. Depending on the system specs, you may want to try an older version (such as v3.03) of IE first, especially if you're setting up for dial-up access:

http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/win16

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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#3
September 6, 2010 at 23:29:31
Are we talking about the old 486 NEC Versa? Internet access is possible with either a phone modem or network card and proper drivers.

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#4
September 7, 2010 at 06:56:27
Win 3,1 did not come with IP/TCP built in. Unless you have not already done so you will need to get that installed first.

I have moved this thread to the Win 3.1 forum where you are more likely to get a comprehensive answer.

Stuart


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#5
September 7, 2010 at 07:44:06
Thanks to all who responded. Yes, I am new to win 3.1. I have several other PC's with win 98 and win XP. Perhaps I am trying to hard to mirror them. I want to give thisone to my grandson so he can surf the Net. I know the Internet was installed (I bought thisused). The owner tracked stock prices, etc., on it.

Should I purchase an external CD drive?


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#6
September 7, 2010 at 09:25:08
If there's an available 5 1/4" bay and IDE connection available, there shouldn't be any problem installing an internal (ATAPI) CD drive (externals are now virtually non-existent for older machines). You will also need to load a DOS driver for it (Google "IDE158.exe" for a good generic driver). If this is a laptop, then you'll need something specific for the machine, since DOS/Win3.1 never had USB support. Also, if the machine has sound, you'll need to load the Windows 3.1 drivers in Control Panel (to play audio CD's with Windows sound recorder).

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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#7
September 7, 2010 at 11:21:15
USB can work with DOS - but not 3.11 (I think).

http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm

I plan to try these methods when I get around to it as I have a couple of firelink USB cards I can use to try it out.

As for Win3.x and the internet. It's a learning curve for a regular Joe. And the browsers from the 1990s are not reliable enough for today's web. This leaves DOS, which is very stable for surfing the web with a text-browser. Not exactly an exciting internet experience for a young fellow.


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#8
September 7, 2010 at 11:43:45
The easiest version is Windows for Workgroups 3.11, with the Updated TCP/IP Stack:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/99891

Reagrds USB, yes for **-DOS, no for W3.xx as it is a MS-DOS GUI not an Operating System


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#9
September 22, 2010 at 21:20:17
yup windows 95 was the first major release with the start menu, you cant add a start menu to Win 3.1 without some major hacks and coding.

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#10
October 6, 2010 at 06:06:11
Why do you even use 3.1? There are lots of new, innovative OS's that are installed with IE/Safari.

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#11
October 6, 2010 at 08:15:51
why even use 3.1?

I'm collecting info on the subject
s373n do you mind if I quote you?

I created a group for those dedicated to explaining down sides of using win3x
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/...

I'm shure there are more good reasons
why to avoide win3x yet to be found
expanded info on the subject clearly is yet needed

wat say?


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#12
October 7, 2010 at 10:58:27
People using 3.x on the internet is more of a hobby for those with an old x86 they want to revive. For example, I use my 3.11 machine quite regularly on broadband for IRC chat, Usenet and Gopher. I'll start IE5 on occasion, but prefer going into DOS and using Arachne or better yet Doslynx if I want read reviews or other news articles on the web. I can download and play some podcasts on it - even mpeg video.

I would never suggest having 3.11 as your regular machine nowadays. But as a fun diversion from the norm; with all the abandonware games for DOS and 16-bit windows out there, you can get lots of enjoyment out of it. So if you want a fairly easy retro experience, get an old x86 and put 3.11 or OS/2 warp on it.


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#13
October 7, 2010 at 17:06:09
uhci can be controled from win16
take a look at the ports :)

not shure of ohci it uses mem
at smthin like DD00 xxxx
might need a dos drivers help

the dos usb disk drivers work ok with ohci

wat say?


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#14
October 9, 2010 at 09:03:22
After reading the OP's message, I think he just meant how does he access the floppy drive. Use File Manager and you'll see what to do from there.

If you want to make it more windows 98ish, then you can use a program like Mask98.

http://www.softlookup.com/download....


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