Must I download Win 10 online or buy a disk at a local store

Microsoft / Windows 7 enterprise sp1(...
September 10, 2019 at 03:52:40
Specs: Windows 7, 4096 D MMb
Comparison between downloading Win 10 online or buy a disk. Well that's my issue. Personally I'd prefer to buy from local store. What is your general opinion on it.

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#1
September 10, 2019 at 04:19:51
If your specs shown are W7, then you can download W10 for Free & it will recognize your product key & install.

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#2
September 10, 2019 at 07:12:36
I prefer to have a disk as well; or at least an ISO which to burn as required...

Found these items amongst many:

http://tinyurl.com/y2baemvb

http://tinyurl.com/qzu9ofn

Found the via a google trawl using:

download windows 10 iso for windows 7 upgrade

as the search terms/sting.

Quite a lot of assorted input from that trawl.

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#3
September 10, 2019 at 07:22:56
Thanks for responding. Afraid no key as I bought the pc 2nd hand. I want to upgrade with my iwn disk in hand. I don't trust these other avenues. Wich would be the cheapest?

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#4
September 10, 2019 at 08:42:00
I think Keyfinder or even Belarc Advisor ought to find the Key...

And it may also be on a sticker on the base of the laptop (presuming a laptop) or even on the main desktop area; and if a desktop system then look no the back, or the base.

And in some laptops it's even been found inside the RAM cover, or another removable panel.

If the computer came originally with OS pre-installed when new - most are since days of XP at least - then it will be an OEM version. Thus you need an OEM ISO not a Retail version. The keys are not (easily) compatible...

Johnw and others here are more familiar with the whole win-10 upgrades paths and even clean installations, than am I. (I still run win-7 on a dual boot Mac system). Nonetheless I think you can still download the upgrade ISO (from M$-land) and run it from a DVD/usb stick - which M$-land cover in some of the links I found; and I think one of them I posted above?


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#5
September 10, 2019 at 09:20:55
Hi trvir. Now you mention it. I would orefer to carry on with my w7 but it has become sooo slow that I'm just thinking of replacing it. Maybe I can just repair it but then you stil need to go through a process. And you need to download "something"?

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#6
September 10, 2019 at 11:26:59
Have you run a few cleaner apps, and defragged the hard drive?

Malwarebytes

Adwarecleaner

Ccleaner

All three have freebies.

Slowing systems often mean accumulated junk galore; some running around in the background...


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#7
September 10, 2019 at 13:03:18
I tried several times to analyze and defrag but for some reason the analysis stopped at 10% and it would just freeze.

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#8
September 10, 2019 at 13:45:12
Cleaners first: then defrag.

All in safe mode.


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#9
September 10, 2019 at 15:43:34
Download Win10 from Microsoft & burn it to your own disc.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sof...

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#10
September 10, 2019 at 15:47:50
Since Win 10 came along as a free update to Win 7 there have been many major updates (like "upgrades" really). They now come along twice a year. I no longer have any issues with Win 10 but wonder if a machine intended to run Win 7 is still suitable for current versions of Win 10. It might run slowly.

I'm inclined to think it would be better to buy a new machine with Win 10 already on it if you can afford one. You then at least start on a level playing field (hardware -v- software).

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#11
September 10, 2019 at 20:49:54
If you have a very old system then Windows 10 may be slower.
You seem to show Windows 7 SP1, you should be up to SP3
4GB is just enough to run Windows 7 64bit right (if you have 64bit), 8GB or more is helpful (Max 4GB with 3.2-3.5GB usable if 32bit).
Clean and repair W7 if possible and practical, replace the entire system if possible if very old. Windows 10 does not easily work on older hardware and if slow may become slower.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#12
September 11, 2019 at 00:04:56
Thanks guys I'll try and get to everyone. I manage through Belarc to get my key, I OPENED microsoft webpage where you download w7 Ultra. My key could not be verified an M suggested I contact their support unit

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#13
September 11, 2019 at 06:32:47
Good question Derek. Will check on the web

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#14
September 11, 2019 at 06:34:45
Trvir I tried that route but Microsoft won't recognise my key which I got hold of via Belarc.

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#15
September 11, 2019 at 06:38:10
I have run most of those malware apps. Can I mention 2 things. Firstly my clock and time is lagging which mean expired battery. Secondly Belarc informed me there's 3% memory left as at the time I ran it. Could these factors affect performance?

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#16
September 11, 2019 at 07:08:53
Low RAM could affect performance and so could hard disk space if it is that close. I doubt the battery would cause slowness as it is only there to ensure BIOS retains its data - when running it should be OK.

If you aim to keep the computer then definitely change the battery.

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#17
September 11, 2019 at 08:38:22
How is the page-file set - the amount of space on the hard drive? Is it set by windows or did you set it?

I suspect there may be something running in the background which is a memory hog..

Perhaps check the startup listings (msconfig if I remember correctly in windows).

Uncheck items and see if memory usage drops?

http://www.netsquirrel.com/msconfig...

And can you/did you manage to defrag in safe-mode?

Re' Belarc Advisor; did the key it dug out include OEM in its characters?

Try running lazsesoft key finder... free download to use here:

https://www.lazesoft.com/windows-ke...

It may deliver a different/valid key?

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#18
September 11, 2019 at 11:16:39
Key is the same in Keyfinder as in Belarc. No page is set by Windows. Still checking on the other issues.

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#19
September 12, 2019 at 07:49:58
The start up list is very long but it all seem to be Microsoft programs. Some are checked but indicate it has stopped. Very confusing. Still got plenty space on hard disk. Memory is definately a problem.

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#20
September 12, 2019 at 09:50:56
Checkout this article and verify that you do have a pagefile to start with; you seemed to imply earlier that there isn't one?

If there isn't one then set one as per the article. If there is one - again follow the guidelines in said article re' optimising it.

https://www.online-tech-tips.com/co...

As for memory (RAM)... this article - same site discusses the RAM options for various flavours of win-7.

https://www.online-tech-tips.com/co...

You appear to have 4Gig which is more than enough for general use; and the max for 32bit version. Presuming so then there is something running around in the back ground using up RAM.

You say the start up list - via msconfig - is very long. It's usually quite long; but some items can be disabled; especially third-party add-ins. Often there are items there which have kind of snuck in with other software downloaded and installed off the web... They were installed automatically/by default.

Sadly many users opt for the proffered/default installation routine; rather than the manual.custom route. The latter allows one to watch for and uncheck any/all pre-checked boxes - apart for the actual item to be installed. That way one avoids all manner of junk, system changes, pests various - all of which can cause problem some similar to yours...

I suspect again that there is stuff running around which either ought not to be there; or at least not running in the background. Auto-updates come to mind as well; be they M$-land or others.

Possibly Johnw will drop across this one and suggest a few routines to run to really clear out the system. It's one of his special party tricks... There are one or two others like him here of course; but John seems to enjoy such problems..., and likely will give you tailored to your situation routine...


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#21
September 12, 2019 at 10:23:18
Thanks trvir. Will check out those sites.

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#22
September 12, 2019 at 11:16:49
One point. comes to mind... You bought this PC (Desktop?) second hand. Per chance it may have originally been sent out new with an earlier version of windows?

What make/model is this computer?


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#23
September 12, 2019 at 13:33:07
Dell Vostro is the name. I can check with Belarc and provide more information.

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#24
September 12, 2019 at 14:08:49
If it's Dell then there is tag number somewhere on on a sticker the case. That number entered into Dell's support area ought to bring up full details of the computer when new; including which OS it arrived with.

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#25
September 13, 2019 at 05:10:43
There's a IMEI356397033299165. There's a express service code 33465677077 and a code X16 - 96076. Unfortunately in the process of installing a new cmos battery and putting the keyboard back I must have done something wrong so there's no piwer. Is there somewhere a fuse that could have bliwn?

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#26
September 13, 2019 at 05:11:48
Pardon the spelling, must be the fingers out of sync!.

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#27
September 13, 2019 at 05:36:59
Make sure the battery is the right way up (polarity). Much more likely is that there was some plug-in connector which wasn't fully home and you disturbed it. Check all connections are firmly in place.

EDIT:
I trust the computer was powered off when you fitted the new battery.

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#28
September 13, 2019 at 05:44:05
This is a apparently a laptop?

https://downloads.dell.com/manuals/...

and it came with win-7 32bit

This page give the service tag details etc. useful to preserve at this time...

https://www.dell.com/support/home/u...

I'm not familiar with cmos battery changing routine on that laptop; but it would appear necessary...?

This how to (not a Dell site) shows in steps the whole process

https://www.parts-people.com/blog/2...

As does this "youtube"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkU...

As best I know there is no onboard fuse on any laptop; but other's may have other experience in that regard?

Perhaps repeat the sequence (ensuring the main battery is not installed at any time you are inside the laptop workings), in-case something isn't quite as it ought to be.

Is there any indication of power going into the system - led lights etc.?; and indication of power on the mains adapter - again an led light? And any "noises" from the laptop when power is applied - even if it appears not wake up properly? If there are start up noises and power indications then possibly the display connection is loose?

Normally replacing a cmos battery doesn't affect anything else; unless one inadvertently disconnects something else in the process?

Also are you sure the AC adapter is OK - as in delivering volts? Perhaps check with a volt meter? Do you have another known good adapter with which to test/check?

This is a link to one source of the "Service" manual; more detailed than the basic user manual.

https://www.slideshare.net/BetteSan...


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#29
September 13, 2019 at 07:16:23
This is the present scenario. I installed the cmos battery. Then on startup the laptop starts beeping 5 times every 2 seconds. According to Google that's a cmos battery problem . What happens now is when I switch off and I want to switch on.. nothing hapoens. No power. To get power I do 2 things. I disconbect the main battery and press the ON button for 30 seconds and walla! You switch on. Switch off...same process again. Cmos time is now stable and battery is fulky charged.

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#30
September 13, 2019 at 08:34:03
Are you saying that when you go through that ritual it starts but fails again next time you start?

Sounds to me like the BIOS reset to default when you removed the battery and the laptop didn't like it. This can happen but it might take a bit if working out which setting is bugging it. Can you get into BIOS (usually tap F2 whilst booting)?

Can you give the model number of your laptop please?

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#31
September 13, 2019 at 09:04:14
Also... are you sure you have the correct cmos battery, and it's correctly installed?

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#32
September 13, 2019 at 09:27:05
Yes Derek. Dell Vostro 3550. I've checked the battery again. Even the old battery shows 3 vt. It only start once I have discharged the battery. Don't know how that works but advice from pc specialist. Must be Bios. I rest time and date at F2 but when you switch off and on again, settings nit the same. Even revert back to 2009! One concern are the flimsy tape connectors inside. Very tiny and hard to install correctly.I think this is the problem. When I fiddle around trying to secure them to motherboard I actually manage to get oc going. But the little black pkastic ties that are suppised to secure them sit very loose.

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#33
September 13, 2019 at 10:06:00
It doth sound like the cmos battery isn't connecting properly. I prefer the coin style batteries as generally fit in securely. Although it;s possible to crack or snap the plastic clip.surround when removing or inserting a battery - if not careful.

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#34
September 13, 2019 at 10:08:47
Yes even poor batteries can show 3V when off load.

Whenever things change when you move them that is where your problems lie.
I assume you mean ribbon cables - difficult to advise without seeing the machine.
There are videos around which might help if you search for them.

If you have a friendly computer shop locally they might be able to fix those connectors or replace the cables.

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#35
September 13, 2019 at 10:47:11
Thanks Derek. That's good advice. I even used a magnifying glass to try and fix it but no luck. The battery is another case. Just have no clue. Checked them both. Same result.

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#36
September 13, 2019 at 10:49:24
Mine is the coin type. It doesn't fit snug as the positive poles tend to push half of it upwards.

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