Installing Bios On The MoBo

May 18, 2018 at 01:28:34
Specs: Windows 10
How do I update my drives before installing windows? Just wondering since I won't have access or even functioning wifi?

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#1
May 18, 2018 at 02:17:29
What exactly do you mean by "update my drives"? And what has this got to do with installing BIOS.

Unless you have a specific need or problem, don't mess with BIOS installation.


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#2
May 18, 2018 at 06:21:03
Yep, fooling with a BIOS can brick a system pretty quickly. You need to precisely describe what you need to accomplish, other than "update my drives"...

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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#3
May 18, 2018 at 07:03:15
I'm guessing he means drivers.

The BIOS has nothing to do with Windows drivers. If you don't have a working system, then go to a friends house and download the drives on a flash drive, then install them once you get your system up and running.


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#4
May 18, 2018 at 09:00:12
@THX 1138 YES, it has to do with the mobo. I'm under the impression that I have to update that before I should even install windows I was just asking if you're limited to hard line internet access what other ways can I do that? But I get your answer its to download the drives to a flash then install into my mobo Correct?

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#5
May 18, 2018 at 15:58:29
You would normally install Windows first then if necessary download any other drivers from your computer manufacturer (or the mobo manufacturer if home built). The drivers are for Windows not BIOS or the mobo. Windows installs drivers which should at least get you by and Win 10 is pretty good at selecting drivers (although not infallible).

In the unlikely event that you are unable to get online afterwards then download WiFi drivers as files via a flash drive on another computer, as already suggested, together with any other drivers you might find you need.

So my advice is to go ahead with Win 10 install.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks

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#6
May 18, 2018 at 20:56:03
Generally you should be fine with the BIOS that was shipped with the motherboard. The exceptions are: 1- Problems with the hardware that a particular BIOS update is intended to solve. 2- Compatibility with a newer released CPU that was not fully supported on the early BIOS versions but is supported on the newer version. 3- Motherboard tech support recommends the BIOS update to solve a problem.
There is always a serious risk (though usually small if you are properly prepared) that a failed BIOS update causes the board to be completely unusable. If needed, we can advise you on precautions you should take and you should read up on them and the process ahead of time.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#7
May 19, 2018 at 06:06:38
Drivers get installed AFTER Windows is installed. And the required motherboard drivers should be on a disc that comes with your new board (assuming it's new).

Updating the BIOS may or may not be necessary. It's not difficult to do but if it's done incorrectly, the board is trashed & will have to be replaced. So if you don't absolutely need to update the BIOS, just leave it be.

You've been posting about different CPUs, boards, HDDs, SSDs, power supplies, etc for about 2 months now...have you bought anything yet?


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#8
May 19, 2018 at 09:37:32
no rider i'm asking these questions for the hell of it.

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#9
May 19, 2018 at 11:02:45
I believe you're serious.

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#10
May 19, 2018 at 11:06:14
smdh, well I wasn't.

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#11
May 19, 2018 at 12:50:18
OK, then break out the motherboard manual & read up on how to update the BIOS. :-)

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#12
May 19, 2018 at 13:00:10
How come some builders suggest dealing with the bios first before installing windows? Major part of my confusion comes from that?

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#13
May 19, 2018 at 13:31:18
Re #12
Can you give a link to the exact words and context given in an example of this suggestion please?

No harm putting Windows in first anyhow (which is normal) because it can always be removed if it somehow gets in the way.

EDIT:
I'm a bit lost with your mention of drives (original post) and then mobo #4 as they are quite different things. A BIOS update flashes the chip on the motherboard and makes semi-permanent changes to it. It is called "firmware" and is quite unlike any other type of update. As already given there are risks so it is only done when there is some specific reason and it can certainly be done after Windows is installed.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks

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#14
May 19, 2018 at 13:53:38
yea.. I'm not going to shift threw all the vids i've seen just to find the couple that i'm talking about but I'll say one idea came from what someone on amazon recommended about this Z370 KRAIT GAMING board here having to need a bios update before doing anything else and that channels like tech deals on youtube are what I've looked at for building. Some sources say do windows first others say deal with the bios of the motherboard because it might need to be updated. This is y I ask these questions so I can confirm or not what's true.

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#15
May 19, 2018 at 14:10:09
My recommendation is that you install Windows first which is the easiest option. The BIOS update might not even be necessary, so that risk is avoided unless some need comes to light.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#16
May 19, 2018 at 14:16:40
@Derek that appears to be the consensus so that's what i'm going to do. thx

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#17
May 19, 2018 at 15:11:57
Sometimes a motherboard with an older BIOS will not support the latest CPU. A BIOS update would be required in that case.

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#18
May 19, 2018 at 21:33:17
Occasionally a new motherboard comes out on a just released chipset and there is a BIOS update almost immediately. These can be to fix an issue or conflict that was not obvious before some were using them for a little while. These can be needed by many but the issue they resolve is clearly listed on the reason for the update.
On the early release of the Z97 motherboards, that was true as well as the Devil's Canyon CPU's came out shortly after and they required as update as well to take full advantage of the new properties and overclocking. On the heels of this the newer GTX750Ti was released and it also was not recognized without an update. In this case (if you had all three (Ver.1 of Z97, Devil's Canyon, and new GTX) then you had to run onboard graphics, install BIOS update, Switch back to graphics, and then install Windows, then full Driver Set. This was my last build to date.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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