Acer aspire 3 win 10 wont load

December 28, 2019 at 05:22:53
Specs: win 10 pro, amd 8550
Acer aspire 3 a315 wont boot..
Hi i really need some help here this laptop is my brothers whos housebound and i need to get it fixed asap..
So basically the laptop on powering on says “no bootable device” with a picture of a hdd with a magnifying glass.
Now in bios the hdd is listed.
I have tried recovery but with no luck.
There is no recovery media with the laptop as i assume with these new laptops its all on the hdd.
I have tried a restore with no luck as it says it encountered a problem.
I managed to boot into dos where it defaults to x:/ and when i type dir it shows me the files of the drive so its accessable but i just cant get windows 10 to boot..
I also downloaded and put onto a usb drive the windows 10 update tool from windows site and when i run this usb it says loading files loads then restarts back to the same problem..
I have tried switching uefi to legacy in bios with no luck.
I have tried diskpart in dos then list disk and oddly it shows up no disks.
Does this mean a partition is messed up or maybe mbr
Please help guys i need to get this laptop back up and running asap so my
Bro can get back to his online shopping and so on

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#1
December 28, 2019 at 05:54:29
How to use a Lazesoft Windows Recovery CD or USB device to fix the boot problems if your Windows operating system does not start correctly.
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#2
December 28, 2019 at 08:38:11
"powering on says “no bootable device” with a picture of a hdd"

There's your answer. The HDD has probably failed & needs to be replaced. How old is the laptop? Is it still under warranty? If not & you have to pay out of pocket for a drive replacement, you should consider upgrading to a SSD.
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/conte...


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#3
December 28, 2019 at 12:46:55
The initial info says the drive can be accessed - as in the dos dir command shows the files etc.?

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#4
December 28, 2019 at 13:15:40
hi thanks for the reply and links i will have a look..

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#5
December 28, 2019 at 13:20:03
hi mate the laptop is i think around 2 years old..

what i dont understand is this.
if the hdd has failed why can i access it via dos cmd

im happy to just replace the drive and reinstall win 10 but the one problem im thinking im going to have is the licence key..
there is no licence key visible on the laptop or its box or paperwork..
there is vids on YouTube that show me how to retrieve the licence key in cmd but when i try the same command it doesnt work


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#6
December 28, 2019 at 13:23:35
hi yes when i get the laptop to go into its recovery mode where it gives various options all of which end in no luck the one option i can access is cmd and in cmd it opens to x:\windows\system32 (or to that effect)
i can do cd c:/ to which it changes from x: to c: and on using dir command it shows me the contents of that drive..
that i assume tells me the hdd is working unless i am missing something.



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#7
December 28, 2019 at 15:06:01
I would say the drive is ok.

Persevere with Johnw’s suggestions just now. They may well resolve the problems...
then consider data duplication soon after.. i.e duplicate critical personal stuff, fiscal, photos, music etc. to an external drive, and also (photos and fiscal) to dvd as well.. Check and update copies at regular intervals. Store dvds and external drive in separate
locations.


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#8
December 28, 2019 at 15:24:36
"hi thanks for the reply and links i will have a look"
We are talking minutes ( not hours ) to try Lazesoft.
A lot of the info provided, is just in case you get stuck.
If Lazesoft doesn't fix the problem, we move on & try other options.

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#9
December 28, 2019 at 16:14:57
ok so i have downloaded and am using laze.. good bit of kit for sure will defo be keeping this on a usb stick for future use so much thanks for that bit of info..

so in laze i have managed to pull the licence key from x:/ which i think is the recovery partition... am i right in thinking this is the correct key and assuming this would be in the backup data too and is the original install key .

so in laze it says it can not find an operating system to fix the only drive it can find is x: so it seems that win 10 has somehow corrupt as i can not find the windows operating system now.
my bro did say that something popped up asking for an update so he clicked ok and when it restarted thats when the dreaded no boot device error come up..
i thought maybe the mbr had corrupt but trying to rewrite the mbr in dos would not work as diskpart could not see any partitions but i could access x:\ in dos..

so back in laze i can access x:\ which i have backed up to an external device and pulled the licence key from.

as for personal files pics and so on well i think thats all gone but thats not the end of the world as i dont think he had pics or music on the laptop as it was just used for online games and online grocery shopping and social media so i just need to get this laptop working again and anything else my bro will just have to put back onto it what he needs....

so im thinking my next move (unless any of you know of anything better) is to wipe this hdd and reinstall but my problem is i only have a windows 7 installation cd which i was going to load onto the laptop then use the win 10 update tool from microsoft to then put the laptop to win 10..
is this a good idea?


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#10
December 28, 2019 at 16:26:27
also in laze when i go into windows recovery it says
"no windows volume was found"
and shows me my disks and the only one it shows is the usb that laze is running from.
if i go into lazesoft file manager that is where x:/ shows up as boot (x:) but im sure thats the recovery partition as files within for example users does not have my bros user account in
fines in x:/ are
program files
program files x86
program data
users
windows



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#11
December 28, 2019 at 16:55:34
Windows 10 ISO image to create install disk on DVD or flash drive:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sof...

DOS did not find MBR because it probably is GPT which is a different table and beyond DOS to see.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#12
December 28, 2019 at 17:03:13
GPT yes i think it could have been..

ok si if i go down the clean install rout which im more than happy to do will my win 10 licence key work with this win 10 iso image youv linked...

thanks for these replies and all your help everyone


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#13
December 28, 2019 at 17:11:22
also is that only an update tool? meaning id have to have some version of windows installed to then use that to update to 10..

or can i do a full fresh install onto an empty hdd with that win 10 tool


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#14
December 28, 2019 at 17:37:14
"i only have a windows 7 installation cd"
No need, just download the latest W10 ISO & it will probably pick up the product key, if not, use the W7 key.

If doing a clean install ( you lose everything ) Delete all the partitions during the install, keep hitting Delete until Delete & Format are greyed out & you are left with an Unallocated drive.

"or can i do a full fresh install onto an empty hdd with that win 10 tool"
Yes.

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#15
December 28, 2019 at 17:40:31
well i just booted from the win 10 usb tool..
the windows 10 window came up the circle or dots just sat flashing in the circle then it said problem..
so im about to see if i can do anything from the win 7 cd and if that all loads and installs properly ill then update to 10 i think

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#17
December 28, 2019 at 17:46:27
ohh so now im getting an error in win 7 asking to load driver..

"no device driver were found. make sure that the installation media contains the correct drivers and then clock ok"

so is this for the hdd? and if so could this be the issue from the beginning?

what device drivers does this need?


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#18
December 28, 2019 at 17:46:48
Once you get an install working, no need to use an Microsoft account, just hit skip or something similar.

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#19
December 28, 2019 at 17:49:07
"no device driver were found. make sure that the installation media contains the correct drivers and then clock ok"
Sounds like a bios setting.

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#20
December 28, 2019 at 17:51:04
i will need to head off soon and pick this back up tomorrow..
ive appreciated your help today and hope you can help further tomorrow..

ps i have had a look at that gpt for uefi computers page and will look at it more tomorrow..

this uefi and gpt is not something ive delved into much as im a tad outdated on the computer side of things these days lol


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#21
December 28, 2019 at 17:51:31
What is the difference between UEFI and Legacy Mode which we need to choose while installing the OS?
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-d...

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#22
December 28, 2019 at 17:54:27
"hope you can help further tomorrow"
Here is my time zone. What is yours?
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldcl...


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#23
December 28, 2019 at 17:56:58
i had to change bios to legacy to pick up my usd dvd rom that had win 7 in.
now i have changed it back to UEFI the dvd rom isnt in f12 boot list but the usb with win 10 wit uefi support is but on selecting it i now get acer screen with the circles spinning at the bottom then it goes to an error afte about 5 mins

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#24
December 28, 2019 at 17:57:41
im in uk currently 01;57 am

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#25
December 28, 2019 at 18:02:11
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldcl...

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#26
December 28, 2019 at 19:40:18
"but the usb with win 10 wit uefi support is but on selecting it i now get acer screen with the circles spinning at the bottom"
Disable Secure boot in the bios. You may have to apply a password.
https://www.appgeeker.com/recovery/...
https://us.answers.acer.com/app/ans...

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#27
December 29, 2019 at 02:35:23
hi im back...

so secure boot is disables had to set supervisor password to do so..

ok so i restart the laptop with win 10 usb inserted..
same thing happens acer screen with spinning circles and just sits on that


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#28
December 29, 2019 at 02:41:54
Have you made a boot disk with Rufus?

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#29
December 29, 2019 at 02:48:26
ok so after a few attempts at holding alt and F10 i managed to get into recover from usb so on clicking this and selecting my sandisk usb with win to tool the install screen appears.
select language then hit install.
it now says setup is starting but seems to have now froze on that screen..

im now wondering is this a
hdd issue? should i pop the hdd out and try clear it by attaching it to my laptop via usb
is this a hhd driver issue?


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#30
December 29, 2019 at 02:57:01
Back soon, if you have a spare hard drive/ssd to test in the laptop, that would help isolate the problem.

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#31
December 29, 2019 at 03:00:57
Another thought, we really need to make sure your partitions are clean.

1st step.
Use Lazesoft Recovery Suite Home. Click on Disk Image & Clone. Click on Disk Tools > Delete & Format Partition.
https://i.imgur.com/UR6q1I7.png

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#32
December 29, 2019 at 03:06:10
After trying all the above, get a Command prompt in Lazesoft & run chkdsk.
Screenshot ( SS )
http://i.imgur.com/c9viJO4.gif
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/...

Once you have a command prompt, Copy & Paste > chkdsk c: /f /r or to unlock a drive > chkdsk C: /f /x /r and then press <Enter> ( replace C with the correct drive letter )


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#33
December 29, 2019 at 03:11:03
"hdd issue? should i pop the hdd out and try clear it by attaching it to my laptop via usb
is this a hhd driver issue?"
Worth a try if all else fails, Lazesoft should achieve the same result.
You need to make sure the drive has a drive letter assigned. In other words the operating system is normally on C drive.

Upload a screenshot of Disk management please.

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#34
December 29, 2019 at 03:18:25
"i had to change bios to legacy to pick up my usd dvd rom that had win 7 in"
If Rufus fails, which is very, very rare & all the other methods fail, go ahead with the W7 install.

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#35
December 29, 2019 at 03:55:34
ohh thiis interesting..

so when i click to delete partition it can see the "acer c:/ 930.40 gb boot" drive this is interesting as only x:/ has been showing up when i was trying lastnight.

im just running a check disk in laze and its coming up with a TON of bad sectors and its only 13% complete..

i will do your advise on deleting partition and format but i just want to have a play with some of these options first as this drive wasnt showing up like this last time..

not sure exactly what i must have copied over lastnight...


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#36
December 29, 2019 at 04:12:13
"so when i click to delete partition"
Only 1 partition?

"acer c:"
That's a positive.

"TON of bad sectors"
That's not.



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#37
December 29, 2019 at 04:18:54
so the check disk finished with tons of bad sectors..

i cant see an option to fix ?

yes when i seen the disk there i thought the same thing..
i have just attempted to back it up but it says an error occurred while imaging..

what should i do now


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#38
December 29, 2019 at 04:21:18
It's the F in my previous post.

Once you have a command prompt, Copy & Paste > chkdsk c: /f /r


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#39
December 29, 2019 at 04:21:19
this is strange...

when i go into partition options the 1tb laptop drive shows up..

when i go into laze windows recovery the drive does not show up and the only drives that do are my 2tb usb drive i have plugged in (to back up to) and my usb key with laze on


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#40
December 29, 2019 at 04:23:15
ok will try cmd

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#41
December 29, 2019 at 04:25:07
Just chipping in briefly...


If there”s anything on the drive you’d like to rescue, recover, preserve... then be aware that a repartition, reformat will erase it all.

So... if there is anything recoverable and the drive can be accessed somehow, then perhaps consider how to copy that data first to dvd and/or another hard drive?

If the current drive is showing bad sectors galore... even if you do manage a re-install or repair of the OS, I’d seriously consider replacing it...


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#42
December 29, 2019 at 04:29:50
If the OP hasn't backed up, there is a File Manager in Lazesoft.

The first screen that opens, down the bottom is File Manager.
https://www.directupload.net/file/d...
https://www.directupload.net/file/d...
Or, use the Start menu.
http://www.lazesoft.com/windows-rec...

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#43
December 29, 2019 at 04:30:59
ok so this gets more mysterious by the second..

the hdd is there then its not.. so its details was all showing up before to do the check disk but now when i look at its partition info the dis is no where to be found only the laze usb thats inserted...

i noticed when i boot up in f12 and the boot screen loads sometimes the internal shows up as a boot option along wih the laze usb device and sometimes only the laze usb device shows..

its like the hdd detects one min then not the next


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#44
December 29, 2019 at 04:34:31
When you boot into the bios with nothing else connected, do you see the 1T drive listed?

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#45
December 29, 2019 at 04:38:26
hi thanks for the addition..

yes backing up the primary data is being a bit tricky as the hdd seems to be showing then not..

it showed up to do a diskcheck in laze and even to grab partition information where i can see a 77gb of the 1000gb usage of the drive but when i went to back up the drive in laze i select the drive to back up then when i select the destination drive being my 2gb usb for some reason that changed to c: and would not let me copy..

im appy to replace the drive as long as that is the problem

in bios the hdd shows up on the information screen HDD0 MODEL NAME WD WD10SPXXXXXXXX
but when i flock across to boot it only shows
1. usb hdd generic usb storage (my usb with laze on)

could this be solid proof the hdd is the main cause


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#46
December 29, 2019 at 04:39:48
ok just removed usb storage and booted to biso

as above the hdd shows in information
and also now shows in boot


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#47
December 29, 2019 at 04:42:00
but then when boot manager loads its not in there .... this is really not making sense

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#48
December 29, 2019 at 04:47:15
Upload some photos of your bios please, just whatever you think are relevant & we can go from there.

Check the quality of your photos before uploading.


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#49
December 29, 2019 at 04:59:14
Just remembered.

How to Take A Screenshot in Your Motherboard BIOS
https://www.unboxingtreatment.com/2...


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#50
December 29, 2019 at 05:07:01
am afraid i cant upload pics as i dont have drop box account or to that effect to upload pics here..

i have just tried to wipe the drive tho..
im really not bothered about data on it there is noting that cant be redownloaded.

so i removed this 1tb drive from the laptop and have connected to this working pc im talking to you on..

opened lazesoft and tried to wipe the drive clean but it starts then gives bad sectors error
i also noticed that althow it shows up it doent have a drive letter asigned to it


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#51
December 29, 2019 at 05:14:02
"am afraid i cant upload pics as i dont have drop box account"
Use what I have been using for you, both Free, no account needed.

"so i removed this 1tb drive from the laptop and have connected to this working pc"
Remove the Lazesoft usb, then upload SS of Disk Management.

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#52
December 29, 2019 at 05:27:51
ok if you can tell me what i need to use to add pics in here ill happily do so..

disk management shows up the drive as G acer which is good..
the drive i think is faulty as it keeps doing an odd click and then the sound that media has been removed happens and then disk manager freezes..

when the hdd does stay stable long enough for me to see its contents example my bros name on his user account i try to copy it all over to back up it says i need administrative privileges and then doesnt copy
how can i add administrative privilages to be able to pull this data then ill try a wipe and reinstall but im sure this hdd is done for


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#53
December 29, 2019 at 05:36:33
"ok if you can tell me what i need to use to add pics in here"
directupload or imgur as per my post #1
Give us the links for any uploads.

"im sure this hdd is done for"
So am I.


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#54
December 29, 2019 at 05:37:45
Have to finish up now. Catch up tomorrow.

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#55
December 29, 2019 at 05:44:52
ok sorry ill look back to post one and get some pics up for you after all you have spent so much time helping me out im going to get photos u for you..
enjoy the rest of your night and i really appreciate your help..
i will post back later and catch up with you tomorrow hopefully..
also im going to order a new hdd aswell

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#56
December 29, 2019 at 09:33:51
Based on current discussion here I'd be somewhat disinclined to trust the current drive... And for a replacement drive...

I suggest an SSD; faster boot and performance... I've used Crucual SSD with no problems; and bought usually via Amazon.

Crucial MX500 CT2000MX500SSD1(Z) 2 TB (3D NAND, SATA, 2.5 Inch, Internal SSD). They do smaller capacities too - obviously.

And I'd also get a Western Digital Blue conventional HDD - the "mechanical" type - not SSD - as an external backup drive.

Put it in an enclose and you're away...

I have a Western Digital 2 TB SATA 2.5 Hard Drive - Blue in an Inatek case as backup/Time Machine for my each of Mac systems; this enclosure:

Inateck 2.5 Hard Drive Enclosure, USB 3.0 External Hard Drive Case, UASP Supported, FE2002

Easy to install the drive and perfect protection.

There was a recent very useful exchange here with "riider" amongst others, re' merits of each type of drive. Essence of which is SSD for internals - they'll be frequently powered up as per norm. But HDD for externals - as they may not always be powered up. SSD apparently can fade away as it were if not occasionally regenerated, refreshed by powering up; whereas conventional HDD doesn't suffer that way.


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#57
December 29, 2019 at 09:45:48
Hi trvlr well ive been messing about with this hard drive out of the laptop and with it connected to my laptop via usb and it really isnt working like youd expect from plug and play.

Firstly the suspected faulty drive is a wd blue 1000tb
Drive and the drive i have ordered also from amazon is a Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB SATA 2.5" Internal SSD

The old suspected faulty hdd keeps freezing up my laptop when its plugged in via usb.
Sometimes it opens and i can see its data and drive letter sometimes it shows in disk manager but with no drive letter and asks me if i want to use it as mbr or (i cant remember the other option) gup or whatever the abbreviation is.
But even when i try select an option to then use the drive to wipe it it hits a bad sectors error.
Im trying to add a few pics now as i set up a
Drop box account to upload some pics here so give me a few mins ill see what i can get up


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#58
December 29, 2019 at 09:47:36
So this is the replacement ssd that i have comming tomorrow.
Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB SATA 2.5" Internal SSD https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07KSHC...


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#59
December 29, 2019 at 09:54:33
Ok so some pics of current goings on..

So first set of pics is of bios on the original laptop with “problem” hdd installed
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v2d4jlpdo...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4bddi6x8z...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qni7knher...

I hope these pics Are viewable


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#60
December 29, 2019 at 10:02:58
These pics are of lazesoft running on same laptop from usb with hdd installed as normal

On this pic you can see that lazesoft can not see the hdd that bios can see in previous pics as the only drive that shows is lazesoft usb
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tf2tlders...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/aexnlaagt...

Now the following pics are with the suspected faulty hdd removed and connected to MY working laptop via usb

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4liuph0gh...

In this one its disk 1 thats the problem disk
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2pqmonni...

Try to do anything with the disk i get this error
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8opa9odhx...

In this pic is lazesoft running from my good laptop trying to access the hdd
It shows up but with no drive number (highlighted in blue)
((Also i know it says seagate but its just the adaptor from my seagate i have this hdd plugged into ))
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ju4lmpk1z...

Now trying to wipe the drive again via lazysoft on my working laptop with hdd plugged into usb
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6mubrtanp...


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#61
December 29, 2019 at 10:31:29
ok so a tad of progress..
i managed to find an old hdd i had laying around (from my old ps3 when i upgraded)
so i formatted and have used that in the laptop.
changed to legacy in bios to support the older drive and windows 10 currently is installing windows so so far this is the furthest i have managed to get with installing anything on that laptop so its looking promasing for when the ssd arrives tomorrow

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#62
December 29, 2019 at 14:21:04
Re’ the defective WD blue drive... that’s a bummer. Generally they’re considered very reliable.

You”might” be able to get a replacement under warranty. Perhaps contact WD and also perhaps the vendor of your laptop to see what might be possible?

WD seem to have a 3yr. warranty on most of their drives, according the articles re’ that issue. Previously they were 5yr for Caviar range, and they’re now 3yrs.

This link to Amazon - customer comments re’ the drive includes comments about drive warranties - both OEM supplied and retail.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product...

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#63
December 29, 2019 at 15:17:16
"I hope these pics Are viewable"
Perfect.

"looking promasing for when the ssd arrives tomorrow"
That will be the answer I'm sure, be aware you don't defrag a SSD.


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#65
December 30, 2019 at 06:09:41
Following this thread, the hard drive is dead. Anything past a few bad sectors means absolutely replace it to me. Not worth anymore thought on it.
There is a small chance that bad memory can cause the hard drive to appear to be bad. Testing with hard drive unplugged with Memtest86 can confirm.
Also either problems with wiping the hard drive when connected to another computer or a good install on good old drive or new SSD drive should also confirm that it was the hard drive and not the memory.
If you get a good install on the new drive and it proves to work good and you do not need any files from the old hard drive then label it dead and if you do not go looking for anything on it after a few months, just dump it. If there have ever been important, personal, banking, etc. data on it then destroy it first. Many pounds with a hammer until the soft side has caved into the platters should be fine. Then into the metal recycle bin for pick up.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#66
December 30, 2019 at 08:58:44
Hi guys. Just got back from work ssd arrived now to pop it in and get installing...
Will read and reply to your messages very soon

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#67
December 30, 2019 at 09:18:53
Hi so firstly i will contact wd and acer to see if they will do anything with the drive under warranty you never know they might send out a new replacement for me to keep 😉

And before i ditch the bad 1tb ill have a look through them links see what i can do..

Also yes i managed to install win10 on an old ps3 80gig hdd that i connected to the origonal laptop and the install all went fine and installed so i have hope everything will go fine on this new ssd..

As for not defragging a ssd thinking about it that makes sense..
I never knew you wasnt supposed to but ive never defragged the ssd i have in my own laptop more out of laziness than knowing not to do it. However now i know

I wish to ask a few more questions first
So do you know how i can create an actual recovery section on the hard drive one thats not going to show up in windows as a drive but that will be accessible via other means if my bro ever messes things up again as he is quite partial to messing up his computers altho this hdd failure has been the worst yet.
Usually he just messes up windows so altho i will be cloning this drive once its all up and running and keeping it on a completely separate drive that ill have stored at my house id like to also have a copy of everything on a separate part of this ssd that he can not access..
So i was thinking to maybe do a separate partition of about 40gig to store all the acer drivers and other bits on..

Whats your views on this and doing such a thing

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#68
December 30, 2019 at 09:39:03
Hang on am i correct in thinking windows 10 installation will create the recovery partition as part of setup so all i need to do is just a normal instal

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#69
December 30, 2019 at 10:29:25
Well guys i am now back up and running..

Windows 10 installed (not yet activated tho)
Updates downloading
All devices recognised and installed in device manager
Whats left lol


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#70
December 30, 2019 at 10:37:03
Clone the working installation to a spare hard drive; label it and keep safe - away from interfering fingers...

Also make a recovery set of DVDs for the installation - as per Acer perhaps?

Download and save all required drivers provided by Acer; both to DVD and perhaps a hard drive too?


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#71
December 30, 2019 at 11:06:52
Ok so once i have everything updated and 100 % shall i use the lazesoft software to do a complete clone of the drive..
Will that literally clone everything partitions mbrs the lot so if i need to use it i can just transfer it back across ..

I see that win 10 on set up partitions the drive into a recovery section too so thats good to do a reset as a first point of call in future but obviously ill be making backups too as currently i have everything ive used so far tools and all drivers on a usb stick till i can grab some dvd disks

There is a bios update on acer website im thinking of doing to have that up to date too


Only think left to do is activate windows but im not sure if the licence code i pulled was the origonal one to the original installation...

Ill go ahead and see if it activates with it and fingers crossed


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#72
December 30, 2019 at 11:10:43
Am a tad confused here.
It says windows is activated ?
But ive not input any licence keys so is this likely to tell me i need to purchase a key at some point as id rather sort it now so it doesn't pop up on my brother as mentally he isn't all there and it will just throw and frustrate him

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#73
December 30, 2019 at 13:16:50
"So i was thinking to maybe do a separate partition of about 40gig to store all the acer drivers and other bits on"
Keep it simple, no extra partitions.
Look in Disk Management & you will see what W10 has done in that regard, google anything you don't understand.
You can clone the drive with Lazesoft.

"But ive not input any licence keys"
Correct, as per my post #14


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#74
December 30, 2019 at 14:23:42
Well lazesoft found the licence key in the bios apparently?
I didnt think licence keys was stored there but then im a bit out of date on all this these days..
Anyways it looks as if my licence key now that win 10 activated under is the same key lazesoft picked up on the laptop when i used it prior to the new hdd and install soo it seems we are all good..

Ive not bothered with any other partitions like you say keep it simple..
Like you say in disk management has done its own bits regarding a recovery partition and so on when it installed windows so that good as i Didnt know win 10 did that...
I sure have learned a lot if new things from you guys.

Ill create a recovery drive from windows 10 its self as it seems to be an option to create a recovery drive and a very simple option to do and ill keep that safe somewhere..
And ill clone the drive with laze

So on that note i think that has this one solved sorted and smiles all round..

To all of you who have replied and helped with all your links info and advice i so much appreciate all of your time and effort in helping me resolve this.

Ive no idea what to pick as the best answer because all your replies have been informative and helpful..

Wishing you all a very happy new year.
Till next time
Take care
Stephend161



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#75
December 30, 2019 at 14:24:46
A great big thank you

https://images.app.goo.gl/N6hwegqFo...


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#76
December 30, 2019 at 14:25:57
"ok so i have downloaded and am using Lazesoft, good bit of kit for sure will defo be keeping this on a usb stick for future use so much thanks for that bit of info.."
Yep, it is fantastic boot disk, has so much it can do in a very compact format. No huge download like some tools.
It is an indispensable part of my toolkit, like yourself, I keep it on an usb stick.

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#77
December 30, 2019 at 14:36:41
Its brilliant it just does so much and has so many features and like you say its only a small download to

What other tools do you find useful that i could have a look into


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#78
December 30, 2019 at 15:33:23
By far the biggest tool I use, is Google. I google everything for computers & other.

Here is a start, will post more later.

I use Windows Defender AV for W10.

Malwarebytes Free for cleaning up infections. Installed on every comp I use or work on.
Run Malwarebytes Anti-Malware ( MBAM ) Use Threat Scan. Make sure Rootkit scan is on.
https://www.softpedia.com/get/Antiv...
http://www.freewarefiles.com/Malwar...
http://www.freewarefiles.com/screen...
http://www.malwarebytes.org/downloads/
Forum
http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/
Scanning, you will get something like this.
https://i.imgur.com/4NZ5Qw0.gif
https://i.imgur.com/rRfr1oD.gif
https://i.imgur.com/tShE6tQ.gif
https://i.imgur.com/iJZHDC0.gif
After a restart ( if required ) Copy & Paste the contents of the scan into your reply.

Unchecky
https://www.softpedia.com/get/Syste...
http://unchecky.com/

Run both of these, in this order.
1: Wise Disk Cleaner ( Run the 1st three tabs, left to right. I use default settings, leave boxes that are unchecked, unchecked )
https://www.softpedia.com/get/Syste...
http://www.freewarefiles.com/Wise-D...
http://www.freewarefiles.com/screen...
http://www.wisecleaner.com/download...
http://i.imgur.com/Jecnfvb.gif
http://i.imgur.com/0xHwdom.gif
https://i.imgur.com/q8GRvVw.gif
https://i.imgur.com/ImAsNPL.gif
https://i.imgur.com/ad7SEKM.gif

2: Wise Registry Cleaner ( Only use Registry Cleaner & with default settings. Don't use System Tuneup, that is for Experts, you really have to know what you are doing )
https://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak...
http://www.freewarefiles.com/Wise-R...
http://www.freewarefiles.com/screen...
http://www.wisecleaner.com/wiseregi...
http://i.imgur.com/Qy7HWcA.gif
http://fs1.directupload.net/images/...
http://fs1.directupload.net/images/...
http://fs1.directupload.net/images/...


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#79
January 1, 2020 at 09:15:41
well the laptop is fine now and back with my bro..
untill next time lol

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