Solved Windows 8 Changes - Wants / Hopes / Fears

February 7, 2014 at 13:58:14
Specs: Windows 8
So anyway, just wanted to see your guy's opinion, what kind of things do you think / want to be changed in Windows 8?

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February 11, 2014 at 17:14:12
Well, I was actually on the Windows Store (decided to check it out) and there is an app that lets you emulate OSs from as far back as 95. I guess 'emulate' isn't the best word, as they don't have any of the actual Windows functionality, but it is pretty cool to show your friends!

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#1
February 8, 2014 at 01:02:16
Quick answer: just about everything.

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#2
February 8, 2014 at 14:56:46
Ha, yeah, you said it phil. Actually, I just got Windows 8.1 a few months ago and its not that bad, especially now that you can boot to desktop. And to be honest, I've gotten used to the new start menu, although I still don't like the tablet-y feel of it.

I suppose having an actual button to open Charms would be nice. And I hope Windows 8.2 won't prompt me to close Civ V every five minutes because "the program has stopped working", even though I can drag the window to my other monitor and just keep playing.


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#3
February 8, 2014 at 15:03:45
Seems everyone is clamouring for the old Start Menu back, at least as an option for PC users, so maybe MS would boost their sales if they provided it (there are roomers).

I'm not sure how I would have seen it if it had been my first computer but once on the desktop it seemed like any other computer. A few shortcuts in folders and it now does everything I've always done but my way - not so sure I even want the start menu back.

I use the magic start screen for my favourite things as a single click jumping off point to the desktop. Only a few apps of interest to me. I might think differently if I had a touch screen.

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#4
February 9, 2014 at 09:07:08
Clean the windows store of all the s**ty adware installers that are on there.

That and +1 NT56erbx; I don't have that many crash issues under Dx11 but still, it does like to do it every once in a while.

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#5
February 9, 2014 at 16:25:01
Hah! I can't even get the game to run with directX 11. I had to hunt around in the game's directory for the launcher for the 'Touch-Enabled' version of the game, specific for Windows 8. Luckily the controls can be configured back to default in the game's settings.

I've tried using Dx11, but it decides it doesn't want to display the game right, and I get about 10% of the screen. It also came with a Dx9 version, but it just renders the game terribly.

Personally, I haven't even been on windows store yet. I hate the idea of it, and why I've tended to stay away from smartphones and tablets.


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#6
February 9, 2014 at 17:10:36
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"I haven't even been on windows store yet"
Nor have except for the 8.1 upgrade, which is a sore point with me. In the past I've always downloaded major updates and service packs onto a CD so that if I had to reload I could install these quickly offline. I wonder what MS are so coy about.

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#7
February 9, 2014 at 22:52:22
I downloaded Windows 8.1 and was quite surprised at the layout. at first it was like all greek to me, but in a few days i got quite fond of it. Real easy to navigate and has never crashed on me yet. It seems to carry most drivers too and that makes it quite useful for me.

It's somewhat like re-inventing the wheel...and once you get the hang of it...it rolls along smoothly....I actually prefer it over win 7 now ;-)

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#8
February 10, 2014 at 07:50:02
I agree totally win XPUser4Real. My 64 bit runs fast and is very reliable - all of my 32 bit programs still run. I've even got some 16 bit stuff running in DOSBox.

All that fuss people made about Windows 8 not booting to the desktop and the great relief when that option was introduced in Win 8.1. Crikey, if they wanted the desktop in Win 8 all they had to do is look for the big desktop icon with their background picture on it, then give it one left click of the mouse or a dab of the finger - hardly rocket science.

Maybe it is that many folk nowadays expect to buy "boxes" then do whatever the box says they can do. My view of a computer is that it should be all things to everyone and the first thing I've always done is make it suit my own requirements.

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February 10, 2014 at 11:51:08
I don't particularly like the new interface when it's put in to a traditional or "power user" desktop environment. I was going to get Win8 regardless, but I require WinXP mode and MPEG-2 playback. I'd lose both by picking Win8.x, so I count me among the people who bought Win7 after 8's release.

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#10
February 10, 2014 at 14:42:15
I'm running MPEG-2 using VLC player on Win 8.1.

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February 11, 2014 at 08:06:47
Well, that's (admittedly the less important) half of my missing requirements. If anyone knows of a free & legal VM program that comes with a WinXP VM and can interact with the desktop semi-seamlessly, let me know and I'll go with 8 for my workstation / pseudo-server.

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February 11, 2014 at 17:14:12
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Well, I was actually on the Windows Store (decided to check it out) and there is an app that lets you emulate OSs from as far back as 95. I guess 'emulate' isn't the best word, as they don't have any of the actual Windows functionality, but it is pretty cool to show your friends!

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#13
February 12, 2014 at 18:24:03
I'm with Derek and XPUser4Real on this one, I use 8.1 and I prefer to Win 7 now, in fact when I do use W7 now I'm hard pushed to remember where everything is.

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#14
February 27, 2014 at 13:19:54
I'm a bit off topic but although I'm quite happy with Win 8.1 can anyone say what this brings to business (that is of real value) compared to Win XP? Yeah I know the security is about to die but apart from that I wonder what the business incentive is to change. This could be why XP still has 30% market share.

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February 27, 2014 at 14:00:33
Most businesses are still in the middle of a Win7 roll out. It's a 4 year cycle, and the required retraining for Win8.x is generally seen as too costly.

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February 27, 2014 at 15:07:08
That makes sense but I still wonder what has happened in MS operating systems since XP, that would be of such advantage to them to be prepared to bear the cost of changing now. I assume there is some important thing(s) that I'm missing.

As a home user I see some nice features but in the main they are glitz. There's little I want to do that can't still be done on XP, never mind Windows 7. I can think of a few useful lost features though.

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#17
February 28, 2014 at 12:16:35
Most people get an OS with their computer, and that's the only OS that computer will ever run.

There are some niceties. The Windows search feature makes it easy to find something without looking through menus or file structures. With Win7, they added Windows configuration stuff to the index, so you could run a search for "snap" rather than looking for a checkbox buried in the accessibly options. The window manager stuff makes non-responsive windows easier to deal with. Copying from the GUI is theoretically faster, but I could never tell and never cared enough to run benchmarks. The actual Win7 DVD has a better recovery environment than WinXP's; I used it to copy my existing Win7 installation to a new SSD. Win7 automatically handles the needs of SSDs. It'll still get security updates this time next year. You know, minor stuff.

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#18
February 28, 2014 at 12:53:14
Yep, agreed the search is good and a few bits and bobs. Not really strong enough to move on except for security and just being "modern". My XP went bang and I felt sure the PUS had taken the mobo with it so I got a nice new computer. As it turned out it was only the PSU (fixed) but I'm quite happy to have changed. From a productivity angle nothing much new has interested me personally.

It's surprising how silly MS have become. I did a typo in Bing news under My Topics and it is now stuck there forever - nobody has found out how to delete topics. In the old days right click and delete would remove most things and at a pinch a search of the file system or registry would find it - not worth System Restore.

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#19
February 28, 2014 at 13:45:45
This may or may not apply, depending on your version. The new UI design is really bad at discoverability. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/...

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February 28, 2014 at 14:56:27
Thanks Razor2.3 but I'd tried that. Clicking the Customize button did not come up with "Topics" so I gave up. At one time I managed to get a box saying "Delete bing topic" but that never showed bing news topics just a lot of stuff I had elsewhere on the computer. Never mind, it's no biggie. I've found much modern kit seems to assume you only ever want to do something - never "stop" or "delete".

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#21
February 28, 2014 at 18:31:07
Razor2.3
Eventually persistence paid off. Won't try to explain, convoluted and not helped by a Remove button that kept shooting off left without me realising it. This mob are still trying it seems:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...

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