Solved Why did my question get deleted?

Microsoft Windows xp tablet pc edition 2...
August 19, 2012 at 11:34:10
Specs: Windows XP, Intel Pentium 1.60GHz / M32.9 GB
Why did my wntipcfg.exe inquiry get deleted?

See More: Why did my question get deleted?

Report •

✔ Best Answer
August 19, 2012 at 16:49:47
I have to agree with XPFan99 on this one. Microsoft provided that software freely. I have seen many legitimate sites hosting Microsoft downloads. Microsoft even allows critical updates to be downloaded to Windows copies that do not pass the Genuine smell test.

Below is a link to Virual PC 2007.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...

XPFan99

Microsoft probably stopped offering that package because it is no longer needed to accomplish what you wish to accomplish.



#1
August 19, 2012 at 12:17:07
Good question. Jefro commented that we shouldn't link to copywrited software. Microsoft sites are public so I don't see a problem with that but perhaps one of the other moderators felt differently.

You could private message Justin Weber and ask him.


Report •

#2
August 19, 2012 at 12:22:22
I suspect it was because the OP started discussing for non-legit sources for the download, for which I reported the poster's last post in the thread. Obviously there is no problem in linking to Microsoft sites, but when a poster starts asking for unofficial downloads of copyright material....

Report •

#3
August 19, 2012 at 12:23:34
Well, the dumb thing is that Microsoft has stopped supporting the software in question. I have no clue how it's illegal to download abandonware.

Even weirder, when it was supported, it was free. Yet it's bad to get it free when unsupported. The heck is going on?

Hey iJack, the Microsoft sites didn't work. The software was unsupported, so Microsoft removed the download. So the only way I could download the software is with unofficial websites.


Report •

Related Solutions

#4
August 19, 2012 at 12:27:00
"I have no clue how it's illegal to download abandonware."

I'd agree that you don't have a a clue about copyright law. Just because a company ceases to support software doesn't make it public domain or open source. For example, Microsoft no longer support Windows 2000; but don't try asking for downloads and keys for it.

Software only becomes freely available if the author decides to release it as such. In the same way, because a book is out of print doesn't automatically give you the right to make copies of it.

Contact Microsoft and ask them about it.


Report •

#5
August 19, 2012 at 12:42:49
"Microsoft no longer support Windows 2000; but don't try asking for downloads and keys for it."

What about Virtual PC? You can download 2000 for free with it.

Also, Microsoft won't make it officially available. They're trying to render all computers made before 2006 obsolete.

"Contact Microsoft"? Um, they're the ones who removed the download in the first place!


Report •

#6
August 19, 2012 at 13:20:54
Just for info, the idea that it is legal to download abandoned software is incorrect, despite that myth being spread all over the internet (even to the extent of giving it the name "abandonware"). It is still copyrighted, although I accept that few companies would bother to take anyone to court (it would cost them too many bucks).

IF Microsoft provide Win 2000 for use with a virtual machine then they have every right to because they own the software.

Pirating [or not] is up to the conscience of the individual but there is no point anyone doing so kidding themselves that it is legal. Maybe it makes them feel better - dunno.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


Report •

#7
August 19, 2012 at 13:22:31
"What about Virtual PC? You can download 2000 for free with it."

I don't believe that is true. Give us a link to such a download from Microsoft.

"Also, Microsoft won't make it officially available. They're trying to render all computers made before 2006 obsolete."

It's their right to do what they want to with their own software. If you don't like it you don't have to use Microsoft software, do you.


Report •

#8
August 19, 2012 at 13:50:13
Come on, haven't you heard of XP Mode? That's Virtual PC.

"It's their right to do what they want to with their own software. If you don't like it you don't have to use Microsoft software, do you."

Actually, I DO have to use Microsoft software.

And besides, they don't really care about their discontinued software anyway. Most of their abandonware can be found for free on ftp.microsoft.com, such as Hover! and Clock.


Report •

#9
August 19, 2012 at 14:14:21
"Come on, haven't you heard of XP Mode? That's Virtual PC."

Of course I have. XP Mode does not contain Windows 2000. It is a version of Windows XP that is sold as part of certain versions of Windows 7. Unless you own one of those versions of Windows 7 you cannot use XP Mode. It is not a free download that just anyone can take advantage of, it is something you pay for when you buy one of those versions of Windows 7. And it is nothing to do with Window 2000.

"Actually, I DO have to use Microsoft software."

No-one has to use Microsoft software, except perhaps at their place of work. At home you choose to use Microsoft software. Many people choose not to.

"And besides, they don't really care about their discontinued software anyway. Most of their abandonware can be found for free on ftp.microsoft.com, such as Hover! and Clock."

Then download the software from there. That assumes they have made it available; if they choose not to then your only recourse would be to contact Microsoft and ask them if they can supply it to you.

This is a fairly pointless discussion that is going round in circles. Copyright law is copyright law, whatever your opinions on it may be. I doubt the owners of this site want to be seem to condone breaches of that law.


Report •

#10
August 19, 2012 at 14:26:11
I KNOW XP Mode isn't Windows 2000. I was saying the first thing I could think of because I couldn't find any 2000 VHDs.

Also, you don't pay for it as a separate thing. You pay for it buy buying Windows 7 Ultimate. Also, you can use Virtual PC on XP, not just 7.

And I DO have to use Windows. I can't do what I need to do on Mac.

Anyway, I'm going torrent fishing. Wish me luck.


Report •

#11
August 19, 2012 at 14:32:39
I thought it had been made it clear that there is no such thing as "abandonware". That is just a name coined by others (not the owners). Such software is often put on websites by others too, copied from disks or their own computer. MS can pick and choose just what they make available legally because they own the software.

It's a bit like this. When folk dump things into a skip outside their house that does not give everyone else the right to go and take things out of it without permission. It matters little whether the owners happen to care or not - it's illegal.

Anyway, as ijack said, we are going round in circles. If you wish to stick to your own misconceptions then that is your right I guess.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


Report •

#12
August 19, 2012 at 14:43:29
If someone says "I don't want this anymore, I hate it, I never want to see it again", than, yeah, it's abandonware.

And actually it is whether or not they care. In that case, pirating Minecraft should be illegal. Sure, the creator said "If you can't afford it, pirate it!", but who's the creator to say that it's ok?

-GONE FOR TORRENT FISHING-


Report •

#13
August 19, 2012 at 14:45:37
I give up.


Report •

#14
August 19, 2012 at 16:49:47
✔ Best Answer
I have to agree with XPFan99 on this one. Microsoft provided that software freely. I have seen many legitimate sites hosting Microsoft downloads. Microsoft even allows critical updates to be downloaded to Windows copies that do not pass the Genuine smell test.

Below is a link to Virual PC 2007.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...

XPFan99

Microsoft probably stopped offering that package because it is no longer needed to accomplish what you wish to accomplish.


Report •

#15
August 19, 2012 at 17:01:52
Thank you, OtheHill!

And the real reason Microsoft stopped offering it is because it's "too old". They're just rendering everything obsolete. After all, they got rid of Cardfile. They didn't replace it with anything better.


Report •

#16
August 19, 2012 at 23:51:25
Most of what's been called 'abandonware' is software that originally had to be bought and paid for. To include free updates or fixes in that category is silly.

And even if something is copyrighted it doesn't necessarily mean it can't be freely distributed. That depends on the rules set by who holds the copyright. We've all freely downloaded drivers because that's OK with the companies that own the copyright to the drivers. At the moment I'm looking at an sp2 update disk for XP I got from microsoft. On the envelope it came in it says "Share this CD with a friend! After you have installed Service Pack 2, you can give this CD to a friend or family member using Windows XP."


Report •

#17
August 20, 2012 at 07:40:45
The file in question would not be considered abandon ware. Abandon ware is software that originally was SOLD. This file had been freely distributed by Microsoft.

I suspect the reason for the withdrawal is untested compatibility with newer versions of Windows.

I do agree the original EULA would determine weather or not this software could be hosted by a third party.


Report •

#18
August 20, 2012 at 07:58:34
I guess if copyright has expired on software then it can be used legally. I remain convinced that the actual term "abandonware" is something that has been generated by internet users over many years and doubt it has any legal standing.

Having said that I am by no means suggesting that I have never downloaded outdated software without giving much thought about legalities. As I have often said, even Mary Poppins was only "practically" perfect in every way.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


Report •

Ask Question