To those wanting to keep in touch post computing.net

DerbyDad03 January 17, 2021 at 11:05:05

One method would be for someone to step up and say: "PM me with your email address. I'll compile the list and then send it out after the site closes down." That would work for someone like me that has an email address that is mainly used as a "possible spam" receptacle. If one of the people on the CN list turns out to be an unsavory character and uses the list for nefarious purposes, I won't care since it's not one of my "Personally Identifiable Information" email addresses. Of course, I am making the assumption that any of you would want to stay in contact with me. This could turn out to be a soul crushing experience. :-o message edited by DerbyDad03

T-R-A January 17, 2021 at 11:18:16

"One method would be for someone to step up and say: PM me with your email address. I'll compile the list and then send it out after the site closes down." " We have a volunteer!!! "Channeling the spirit of jboy..." message edited by T-R-A

DerbyDad03 January 17, 2021 at 13:56:24

re: We have a volunteer!!! What you actually have is a suggestion. :-) message edited by DerbyDad03

Jeff Root January 17, 2021 at 14:28:42

I just noticed a few weeks ago that my email address in my user info is the one which I had for decades, and thought I would be using forever. However, my provider decided to shut down a couple of years ago, and transferred my email service to someone else. I wasn't able to figure out how to access it, so any and all email sent to that address in the last two years or so has gone into a black hole. The email address I have been using recently is jeff444 at gmail dot com. Not that anyone ever wants to email me. -- Jeff, in Minneapolis

DerbyDad03 January 17, 2021 at 14:47:23

Jeff: Oh, I bet I could get lots of people to email you. Would you like that? ;-) message edited by DerbyDad03

trvlr January 17, 2021 at 15:32:08

What we have here is an attempt to communicate. I'm happy to add my name (email address) to such a list... message edited by trvlr

Jeff Root January 17, 2021 at 15:37:53

Well, there is a tab at the top of my email web page that says something like "Social and Promotions - 50 emails". I never click on it. Okay, my previous email provider of about 23 years told me once that his spam blocker intercepted 56 spam emails to me in just that one day, which was not an unusual day in any way. After he installed that blocker, I hardly ever saw any spam. -- Jeff, in Minneapolis

T-R-A January 17, 2021 at 15:54:58

"What you actually have is a suggestion. :-)" Ok, I get the hint.... Having said that, I've cleared all messages from my PM, and thus: ANY USER WANTING TO BE PUT ON THE EMAIL LIST SHOULD PM ME BEFORE 1/30/21. The list will be added until that point (the site going read-only on 2/1/21). I will contact each member wanting to be on the list via email on that date (2/1/21) "Channeling the spirit of jboy..." message edited by T-R-A

sluc January 17, 2021 at 18:14:11

Trying to build an alternative forum to continue this one. Look and feel will be different but with suggestions of the members here, I try to adjust if possible and make it appealing enough to new users and members alike. Looking for a new domain name as I cannot use Computer.net domain Any suggestions? try your suggestions here https://www.hostinger.ph/domain-che... The .net .com are the most expensive. If you find cheaper appealing domains.... thanks

T-R-A January 19, 2021 at 03:33:38

Bumping this...have only heard from Jeff, trvlr, sluc. Only a week and 1/2 before the site goes read only. "Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

trvlr January 22, 2021 at 09:53:38

I'll treat those who add their names (subscribe to the list) to a cream tea if/when in their neighbourhood... Don't make that offer every day...

T-R-A January 22, 2021 at 10:32:11

Well, guess you don't have peach tea across the pond, do you? "Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

trvlr January 22, 2021 at 13:24:34

Well we might..; tell me a little more about it?

DerbyDad03 January 22, 2021 at 14:47:52

re: tell me a little more about it https://minimalistbaker.com/perfect... message edited by DerbyDad03

DerbyDad03 January 22, 2021 at 14:49:49

re: "cream tea" I'd prefer a Egg Cream - Vanilla - if possible. Thanks! (Never been a fan of Chocolate Egg Creams) message edited by DerbyDad03

T-R-A January 22, 2021 at 14:58:44

Yep, in addition to DD03's link... https://www.southernliving.com/reci... it's added to sweet iced tea... I know, it's a Southern (U.S.) thing and that'd make me guilty as charged. Also realize that any iced tea is pretty rare "over yonder".... "Channeling the spirit of jboy..." message edited by T-R-A

trvlr January 22, 2021 at 15:14:32

Right now over in the UK, put your hot tea out doors for a few minutes and it's likely to become "Iced Tea"... When the world is able to travel again... likely I will be in the mid-west at least; Utah/Nevada/Colorado at least. Who knows might even go north to my adopted country - that place where it snows a little in the winter - but not other times (in-spite of the myths from those pholks to the south...).

Jeff Root January 22, 2021 at 15:52:45

I've never had an egg cream, but I believe I know three things about them: 1) They contain no egg 2) They contain no cream 3) They need to be consumed immediately after being made Am I thinking of the right thing? My neighbors buy bottled carbonated fruit-flavored iced tea in boxes of I think 12, with a variety of flavors in each box. There is one flavor in the box that neither of them care for, though, so they started giving those bottles to me. Turned out that is the one flavor I didn't like either. Peach. But the whole idea of tea in a bottle is still weird to me, and carbonated tea... Colorado, Utah, and Nevada are all in the west, not the midwest. The midwest is pretty much the region between the Appalachian Mountains and the Mississippi River, while the west starts at the Mississippi. Where I used to live, I walked back and forth between the eastern and western halves of the continent whenever I went grocery shopping. -- Jeff, in Minneapolis message edited by Jeff Root

trvlr January 22, 2021 at 16:05:39

There is a biscuit (cookie) in the UK called a custard cream... it has no custard in it whatsoever... It’s a dry small sandwich type biscuit with a yellow filling - but absolutely no custard. Nonetheless it’s quite popular...

T-R-A January 22, 2021 at 16:42:29

Yeah, I think the word "biscuit" and something like this generally comes to mind: https://prod-cm.hardees.com/-/media... "Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

trvlr January 22, 2021 at 17:05:45

Ye gods ‘n little fishes... that would feed four us when I was growing up after the war, let alone during it. Always presuming we could get all of the parts...

T-R-A January 22, 2021 at 17:38:03

I'm sure if you're familiar with us folk in the states (especially here in the southern US), your familiar with how we tend to throw caution to the wind where breakfast is concerned. 870 calories of artery-clogging goodness. :) "Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

DerbyDad03 January 23, 2021 at 09:49:28

re: Egg Creams 1) They contain no egg True 2) They contain no cream Unless you count the "cream" in whole milk, which typically contains about 3% butterfat 3) They need to be consumed immediately after being made Why would you wait? Do you wait until later to consume a Root Beer Float? A Frappe? A freshly opened bottle of Birch Beer? Sheeesh! NYC Style Vanilla Egg Cream Ingredients: 2 tablespoons vanilla-flavored syrup 2 ounces whole milk 6 ounces seltzer water Directions: 1 - Pour syrup into a tall glass. 2 - Add milk and stir. 3 - While stirring add seltzer. Tip: If it bubbles out of the cup you made it right- enjoy! If you prefer a Chocolate Egg Cream (supposedly the original Egg Cream) substitute Chocolate syrup for the Vanilla syrup. BTW homemade Vanilla Simple Syrup is easy to make and perfect for all sorts of delicious drinks. message edited by DerbyDad03

Jeff Root January 23, 2021 at 10:53:43

Thank heavens we got this before computing.net closes! Just one question, I think... Why add the milk to the syrup instead of adding the syrup to the milk? I'd think the syrup would stick to the glass and be harder to mix. Is this like adding acid to water? -- Jeff, in Minneapolis

DerbyDad03 January 23, 2021 at 19:29:46

I guess you'll need to study up on the science of cooking. Although I don't have the answer to your specific question, here's an example - with explanations - of why certain cooking procedures matter.... Coincidentally, just a few hours ago SWMBO and I were watching a cooking show. The chef was adding hot liquid, from a pot, into a bowl of whisked egg yolks. He explained that you had to add the hot liquid very slowly while continuing to whisk the yolks. If you dumped the hot liquid in all at once or dumped the yolks into the pot of hot liquid, you'd basically end up with lumpy, scrambled eggs, which was not the consistency you are going for. Once the hot liquid had sufficiently - and slowly - heated up the yolks, you could then pour in the rest of the hot liquid. Science! The next step was to transfer everything back into the pot, put it back on the heat and then stir it with a large spoon or a ladle - but not with the whisk. If you continued to use the whisk, you would introduce too much air and the consistency would be wrong. Science! Once you get the consistency to almost where you want it, you had to take the pot off of the heat and immediately put it on top of ice cubes in a large bowl while continuing to stir the contents. This would quickly remove the heat and slow the cooking process enough for you to achieve the perfect consistency. Science! message edited by DerbyDad03

Jeff Root January 23, 2021 at 22:26:39

That's what I do when I make custard. Some recipes say how to make the thing fluffy. I hate fluffy, so I don't always do what they say. As for vanilla, I either put in twice as much as they say, or four times. I have yet to put in too much. But that stuff has become darned expensive, so I have to be careful to only use it when I really need to. Orange juice or tea don't need vanilla. :-) -- Jeff, in Minneapolis

trvlr January 24, 2021 at 00:59:29

This has to be a true first... cooking lessons on a computer forum... But then CN has often digressed, diverted into others areas to benefit of all who followed those digressions, diversions. Must ensure I have recipes etc. safely preserved... Vanilla (pure, genuine - not artificial or “blended”) is not cheap. And likely the growers, or more likely the dealers, will milk the market as/when they can; cashing in on the floods of cooking shows on the goggle-box, idiot’s lantern, the one eyed monster now prevalent in many a kitchen let alone other rooms.

Jeff Root January 24, 2021 at 01:51:35

The first really big project I ever planned to do for personal computers was essentially a food and nutrition database. It would include recipes, and you could add your own. The name of the thing would have been "Kitchen Logic". It was also going to include a game called "It's Alimentary!" in which a female nutritionist named Dr. Watson would guide you, the player, alias Sherlock, in solving various mysteries such as "Why do I need vitamin D?" and "Where did my pizza go?" It was also going to have voice output, for which I came up with my own design based on phoneme pairs. The thing was going to have way, way too much data to fit on a Commodore 64 (which I was designing the screens for). Luckily I happened to read about an exciting new data recording medium that was expected to be available in a couple of years, called "CD-ROM". Soon after reading that, audio CDs came out, and I went to the first public demonstration of audio CD in the Twin Cities. The voice output was primarily to make using the computer in the kitchen easier. I also considered bundling an electronic kitchen weighing scale with the program, that would somehow plug into the computer. But I'm a fabulous procrastinator. A lot of recipe programs were put out by others. None as flexible as what I planned. Eventually the Internet came along, and then Wikipedia. And not only was real-time voice output available, but voice input, which was (and is) way beyond anything I could do. So the value of the project lessened as time went by. -- Jeff, in Minneapolis message edited by Jeff Root

DerbyDad03 January 24, 2021 at 06:50:13

re: "But I'm a fabulous procrastinator." It takes me a long time to decide if I want to procrastinate or not. A basic principle of Project Management: The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up. message edited by DerbyDad03

Jeff Root January 28, 2021 at 09:34:53

Well! I just discovered that I gave the wrong e-mail address above. One which never existed. I discovered it when I got no email from T-R-A this morning. I will send him the right address and post it here, too: jsroot444 (at) gmail dot com. Can't remember my own email address. -- Jeff, in Minneapolis

T-R-A January 28, 2021 at 18:22:35

"I just discovered that I gave the wrong e-mail address above." Hopefully that was a dead address...otherwise somebody out there has our addresses... Suggest that anyone potentially involved block the (incorrect) address above...Just my 2¢ T-R-A "Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

DerbyDad03 January 28, 2021 at 19:32:09

That's why I keep a junk address. For forums like these. It gets used for registrations for anything that I expect to get spam from too. Anything I don't trust 100%. Nothing personal. Really. It's the forum and possible hackers or unscrupulous owners - even well intentioned mistakes. I scan it for emails that might be "important" (like from you guys) but I don't care what ends up getting sent to it. It's well over 20 years old. Gets a lot of junk. message edited by DerbyDad03

sluc January 29, 2021 at 00:39:11

Don't know if there is any interest in an alternative forum similar to this one??!! Have setup something based on Joomla CMS and Kunena forum. Added the famous "best answer" button and still working on other things. Have a look at https://computing.spdns.org/ (temp ddns URL) play around (ignore the test messages). Drop a message in the suggestion box or the Watercooler category Or email me at sluc2003@yahoo.com

trvlr January 29, 2021 at 03:06:46

Looks like a nice start... Where is the “water cooler” or “suggestion” box.

T-R-A January 29, 2021 at 03:17:44

"Where is the “water cooler” or “suggestion” box." Yep, noticed the lack of same myself. Also, (just an observation) the link at the bottom of your first pseudo-message (sanio.site) looks a little suspicious. Don't know if you have any control of that, but being the "retentive" type, I'd probably shy away from a site with such. "Channeling the spirit of jboy..." message edited by T-R-A

DerbyDad03 January 29, 2021 at 05:44:45

It's a link to the home page of a village in Manila. "San Lo is an acronym for San Lorenzo used by many constituents of Barangay San Lorenzo." Seems like a nice site, but I have no idea why it was included in that post. (I'll test anything on my old Gen 3 iPad)

trvlr January 29, 2021 at 06:21:13

Presuming the/sluc's new site goes online - is it possible to promote it here pre the read-only date? If only to give those others posting a suggestion re' a bit of support anon?

T-R-A January 29, 2021 at 07:24:46

"...is it possible to promote it here pre the read-only date?" That'd be a question only Justin could answer... "Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

sluc January 29, 2021 at 16:45:27

If you want to post (and see the watercooler and suggestion box) you need to register. Use a spam-email if you are concerned about being "targeted" by spambots. You have control weather your email address is displayed publicly or not. It is part of discouraging spammers.A lot more settings will be accessible. Sanlo.site is a local community (district, ward or borough) website that I maintain. It is part of Makati city part of Metro Manila, nothing suspicious or spyware, just plain informational. It is not meant for worldwide view. I just used to test the forum. If you feel safer on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Barangaysa... I have been looking for a final URL or domain name. computing.xxx. almost all xxx domains are taken. computing911.site, computing911.xyz, computing911.fun etc could be alternatives?? (1 USD per year) .com and .net are expensive domains ....(10+ USD per year) For now the site is hosted on a home-base webserver. (like sanlo.site and others). The only cost will be the domain-name (and some electricity). I have no intention to exploit this site for commercial use. It is a hobby for me.

T-R-A January 29, 2021 at 18:38:23

"...almost all xxx domains are taken." Likely by porn sites: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xxx I'd think any other domain (.xyz, .site, etc) would be preferable over .xxx "Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

sluc January 29, 2021 at 21:38:27

hahaha I wasn't even thinking about porn. The "xxx" meant any <domain name extension> if you check on existing domain names: computing.com computing.net (obvious) computing.site computing.xyz computing.help computing.many-favorable-domain-extension are already taken. Even komputing dot many-favorable-domain-extension are taken So I will go with computing911 to make it different from the famous "computing" For those paranoia's; run a malware test with these 8 website scanners: https://geekflare.com/website-malwa... Have registered a new domain: https://computing911.xyz/ https://computing.spdns.org/ is the same forum as https://computing911.xyz/ for the time being message edited by sluc

T-R-A January 30, 2021 at 08:14:29

Sorry, guess I was taking that ".xxx" a little too seriously. "Channeling the spirit of jboy..."