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July 2, 2011 at 17:36:13
Specs: Windows 7/XP Dual, ?/3gig
This is an English forum and it is interesting to note the number of foreign language posts that appear. Most responders, like Mavis in this one: http://www.computing.net/answers/wi... go to the trouble of translating their reply to suit the OP. However this defeats the purpose of other users with the same problem of using the search function satisfactorily.

Why cant the OP use the same translate function that Mavis did and post their problem in English?


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July 4, 2011 at 03:32:08
re: "I think the OP should do the translating due to meaning and mis-translation."

While I agree that the OP should take the effort to translate to their posts for us, but I'm not sure it will solve any "meaning and mis-translation" issues.

If the translator itself introduced any "meaning and mis-translation" inaccuracies, how would the OP know? They don't speak English, so they wouldn't know that the translator produced something that wasn't what they wanted.

I don't have a solution to that issue, and as I said I agree that the OP should put forth the effort, but not as a means to solve a "meaning and mis-translation" problem.

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July 2, 2011 at 18:32:27
I agree Ewen, I have tried using the translators, but they do not do well enough for technical support. Best I've done is repost the original question in the translated / broken english and ask if this is the problem. If they don't answer, it's done.

Still, I think the OP should do the translating due to meaning and mis-translation. We should reply with a simple notice as follows:
"Y'all need to speak / type Americanese so we kin hep ya!" or
" Queens proper english only, please!"

Do we have another 'official' language?


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#2
July 2, 2011 at 18:44:32
Ewen,

In a perfect world, I agree with you. However, I think, if a user goes through the trouble of posting, and someone wishes to try to use a translator in order to answer that post, I shouldn't remove the posts. I'm unsure why non-English speakers think that posting in another language on a site that is obviously for English users will work. However, to each his own, I suppose!

Justin


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#3
July 2, 2011 at 20:00:04
English, spanish, or whatever in my eyes while it should be easy to see that the majority here post in english it has been my belief that the reason this forum is here is to assist computer users as best we can. Not assist only the english speaking users. This web site is after all accessible from the WORLD WIDE WEB. While many like me are not fluent in other languages I am thinking that of the, what thousands of members maybe some are and can help. Are these posts really a problem? I surely can't help probably 99% of them but maybe someone else can. These folks are just asking for help the best they can. Should we tell them to go somewhere else?

Likely


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#4
July 3, 2011 at 09:04:32
Perhaps a link to one of the many free online translators will oneday be in order.

The poster may not use it but people replying probably would.


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#5
July 3, 2011 at 10:23:53
... thx for the plug Ewen

... afraid I'm stumped with link #2's translated response.

http://translation.imtranslator.net...

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#6
July 3, 2011 at 13:04:23
It is Bulgarian. Used the auto translate

Тази статия описва как да се възстанови система Windows XP, който не стартира, защото на корупция в системния регистър. моля кликнете тук

This article describes how to restore a system Windows XP, which does not start because of corruption in the registry. please click here
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#7
July 3, 2011 at 13:14:08
... thank you worldlibrary for the translation of the #1 post. (see #5 above)

... I was referring to the #2 Bulgarian "response" thx all the same....... lol
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#8
July 3, 2011 at 16:12:48
'Twas a pleasure Mavis and like you I too am (was) stumped. World Library points out that it is Bulgarian... I thought it was Greek (no pun intended).

LikelyStory I think you have misunderstood the object of my post... It was not my suggestion that they should go elsewhere but rather to take the same trouble as responders do to translate their post to English so that others may also benefit from replies. The OP in this instance took the trouble to post the subject line in English and then the rest in his home language!


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July 4, 2011 at 03:32:08
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re: "I think the OP should do the translating due to meaning and mis-translation."

While I agree that the OP should take the effort to translate to their posts for us, but I'm not sure it will solve any "meaning and mis-translation" issues.

If the translator itself introduced any "meaning and mis-translation" inaccuracies, how would the OP know? They don't speak English, so they wouldn't know that the translator produced something that wasn't what they wanted.

I don't have a solution to that issue, and as I said I agree that the OP should put forth the effort, but not as a means to solve a "meaning and mis-translation" problem.

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#10
July 4, 2011 at 09:45:26
Hey guys,

I agree they should be the ones making the effort do the the translation, not the person trying to help. I do think that most non-native speakers do run the translation themselves, and its the rare user who doesn't. However, what I do disagree with is simply removing the post. I think that is a little harsh. I mean, if someone wants to take the time to translate it and attempt an answer, who I am I argue?

Justin


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#11
July 4, 2011 at 10:49:13
Sorry Ewen. I guess in a way I did missunderstand. I didn't feel that you were saying they shouldn't come here but that this thread was leaning to that or that we shouldn't bother trying to help. I do agree that if they can take the effort to post the title in english they should at least attempt with the body of the post but that shouldn't keep anyone from trying to lend a hand. Personally I have not had much luck with translators myself. For a time I was trying to help a few russians with a problem. The translator would fix the words but it always seemed they were then in the wrong place turning most statements into like a sentence jumble. I stuck with it long enough to pick up a russian phrase or two but doubt I was ever truly any help to them.

Likely


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#12
July 5, 2011 at 05:20:08
This site should include a copy of Rosetta Stone with it's yearly fee.

BTW, has anyone tried it and did it work for you?

Experience is not what happens to a man; it is what a man does with what happens to him.

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#13
July 21, 2011 at 21:09:41
having pages for chinese, spanish,russian, will not fix a single language issue, however it would open computing.net to the rest of the world who not natively speak english, i believe only about 23% of internet users are english speakers nowadays, a site has to be aware of this and cater to more languages if it wants to open itsself to the rest of the world and of course get paid for those advertising hits ;-0 just a thought while browsing this thread.

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but cant help myself....


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