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Should the media be fined????

June 12, 2010 at 15:53:19
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The media has totally blown out the gulf oil spill caused by BP.
They are so trigger happy, they just want to increase their ratings in the news scene.

People that live on the Gulf shoreline are getting their lives torn apart.

The media puts out messages that the entire Gulf is shut down because of the oil spill. Then in another breathe, they say that all fishing is banned.

I manage some websites in the Pan Handle for condo owners and you wouldn't believe what people ask when making a reservation.

I also live in the Pan Handle where so far 'touch wood' there is NO mention of the oil reaching that area, still people cancel the week before they are coming because they heard the oil was all over the beaches....which is a bald-faced lie and passed out by the media.

Sure, it's ok for the media to try to emphasize the harm to the wildlife and also try to get BP on the right track on cleaning up their mess.

But saying things about the TOTAL shoreline and scaring tourists half to death is not right in my books. I think THEY should be fined along with BP in this big mess.

I get some of my clients calling me from northern states about the fishing ban ( they know I love fishing) and about tarballs, oil etc on the beach.

Ever since Bill Clinton got publicized with Lewinksi, the media love to make up their own stories just to be heard and get more ratings. Don't forget, JFK had many more affairs than Clinton could even dream of.

I truly think the media should be fined for the problems they cause too, what do you think?
They have all but killed tourism in the past short while.
A good place to monitor the oil spill in the panhandle is

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June 13, 2010 at 04:50:41
This all started when the bean counters at TV stations decided that news programs had to be profitable. Prior to that decision news was considered a public service. You know the rest.

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June 13, 2010 at 09:52:36
I don't know about the media. I mean I agree with you I guess but right now I have my own agenda with the spill. I live just outside of Fort Walton Beach Florida and make many trips each week as far west as Biloxi Ms. I am meeting with city councilmen, sending letters to my governor, to my congressmen. I am asking that BP, Halliburton, and anyone else involved in the mess be banned from doing business of anykind in the state of Florida perminently. I don't mean banned from selling fuel. I mean banned from selling any products, banned from having offices here, banned from lobbying. Everything if it has anything to do with these companies it must be kept out. I would like to see this ban nationwide but I understand how this all works. I am lucky I got to send the letters and meet the city council. Beyond that I see nothing happening. I do see us getting to foot the bill in one way or another. Congress already plans on putting a 25 cents a gallon tax on oil to cover the costs of cleanup. Makes sense. Bp makes a mess and claims they will pay. We will get to pay that. Bp will raise prices to cover costs ( this is why I want them banned ) and once a few pay the price everyone else will jump on the band wagon and match prices. I know no matter what they are fined or actually pay for any of this their profits will not fall, if anything they will increase

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June 13, 2010 at 10:05:51
I agree, this whole fiasco is making many people sick and angry. There is even talk that BP might claim bankrupcy just to free themselves of all the that is LOW

BTW, congrats on getting as far as you are with the meetings.

The way the laws are now, if they claim bankruptcy BP will just go under and immediately pop up under another name....go figure!

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June 13, 2010 at 10:21:56
If I understand the current laws no oil company can be held liable for more than 75 million dollars. This law was passed to encourage off shore drilling. Without the cap no oil company would drill off shore.

We are an petroleum dependent society, that is a fact. So we do need to find more while trying to wean ourselves away from oil.

BP has publicly stated they intend to pay all the costs of the cleanup. There was talk of not paying quartly dividends to help with the costs. This quarter alone accounts for over 2 billion. So, I don't think BP is going bankrupt. Remember bankruptcy means liquidation of assets. The proven reserves owned by BP are immensely valuable.

All that said, there should have been more oversight at that drilling rig. Had there been, that event may not have happened. See link below about dividend.

We need that energy but also need to police industry better.
From all I have read that failure should have never happened. This is no different than the fact that tankers used to be single hulled. I usually takes a disaster to move someone off the dime. Hopefully some meaningful oversight will come out of this mess.

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June 13, 2010 at 10:32:21
Hey OtheHill, I sent you a PM with a question, Thanks
Sorry, you probably sent me a PM as I was typing this, my apologies.

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June 13, 2010 at 11:44:16
"So we do need to find more while trying to wean ourselves away from oil."

Amen to that. What is misunderstood by many is that it took about 80+ years (1859 - end of WWII) to become dependent on oil. Weaning ourselves ain't gonna happen overnight...

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

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June 14, 2010 at 09:50:31
OtheHill I believe you are right that they can not be fined more than that. However they can be billed by any agency involved. One of the things that is beginning to kick me in the teeth is the condo owners ( No offence ment to anyone ) clammering about their loss of investment. Hmmmmm they rode the tide when this INVESTMENT was paying off. When they could charge whatever ungodly figure they wanted and people would pay it. Like any other INVESTMENT there are risks. If my at&t stock tanks is the government going to pay me for it? I fully agree that the doers here must pay but there are far greater losses here than those rich *&%$ $@#*&^$ loosing some investment income. If they invest a million plus in condos then I am sorry I don't see their livelyhood being threatend here. They are just loosing money they thought they could get richer off of. Many are being put out of work by this. Their livelyhood comes first in my book. I also believe there needs to be a criminal investigation into what started this issue. Just seems odd that when the debate about drilling in the gulf started to really heat up *BOOM* this happens. I have no doubt someone is getting rich off of this.

P.S. Yes I am a cospiracy nut. Just because everyone is out to get you though doesn't mean you are paranoid.

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June 14, 2010 at 11:29:18
There's an oil spill in the gulf destroying people's livelihood, ruining the environment, and you want to "fine" the media for reporting on it?

Once again.... 0_o ???

This should have been contained in a WEEK! BP/government is dragging their feet cause they simply don't give a crap! Go down there, weld it shut and be done with it!

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June 14, 2010 at 12:52:55
I don't know how true it is as I myself believe the media tends to make up the news or twist it. I heard many have submitted ideas to contain this including Kevin Costner and BP flat turned them down.

I have to agree with Outlander but I feel it could have been contained or at least localised in just a few days. Funny thing is somehow Obama will get blamed for it in the polls. To be honest with what is happening to the fisherman around the area I think to be safe I will avoid the water for fear of gunfire here soon.

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June 14, 2010 at 15:38:24
Go down there, weld it shut and be done with it!

5,000 feet below the surface - not so easy. The only thing that can get down there are ROV's. Try welding remotely will all that oil gushing out under pressure,

What does Kevin Costner know about deep water engineering.


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June 14, 2010 at 16:07:18
He starred in Waterworld, that makes him an expert.

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June 14, 2010 at 16:13:12
Oh, silly me. I forgot about that.


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June 15, 2010 at 08:55:27
This is what it is all about

From what I gather it is like a big salad shooter lol. There are different models some large some small.

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June 15, 2010 at 09:10:56

Bp will raise prices to cover costs ( this is why I want them banned ) and once a few pay the price everyone else will jump on the band wagon and match prices.

And how will banning them from any given state make a difference in that situation?

Ban them from FL and they'll still raise their prices where ever they do business..."and once a few pay the price everyone else will jump on the band wagon and match prices."

In addition, there will be less competition in FL, so the other companies can raise prices just based on that.

You can't win.

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June 15, 2010 at 09:48:35
I know I can't win but at the very least I won't be loosing directly to BP any longer. I keep seeing that damn commercial "At no cost to the American tax payer". Already it is costing us. I am screaming false advertising. I know no one is listening. In the end no one really cares. We have to fall back to the golden rule. He who has the gold makes and breaks the rules as he sees fit.

Also it's not just fuel that I am talking about. Any other by products from the oil that they have a hand in should be banned as well. I figure this may make things harder for a few that do business with BP but I don't really give a hoot. Why should they continue to profit while the rest of us struggle. They can find others to do business with BP is not the only game in town. And removing one product from the shelves is not going to suddenly cause a monopoly for the other players. Just my opinion maybe I am wrong.

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June 15, 2010 at 14:49:39
I got this in an e-mail, not sure how much truth is in it:

From a friend still flying for PHI (Petroleum Helicopters). I have erased identifying items.

Hello All, I have received several emails from friends and family asking about the oil spill.

I had managed to avoid getting involved until last hitch.

I came home last night from a 10 day hitch flying for BP from their base at Houma, La.

They have 56 aircraft working the oil spill. I worked the Venice, La and the Grand Isle area where the president likes to visit.

The news people have blown everything out of proportion and lots of untruths.

The report that no one was cleaning up Grand Isle beach for one.

Yesterday there were 200-300 men on the beach cleaning up what little oil was there.

I have been flying the Coast Guard around checking the bird sanctuaries.

They are protected by booms that prevent oil getting on the small islands in the area.

The famous pelican that was on all they news tv channels was on Queen Bess Island.

It is the size of about two city blocks and had one spot of oil about 10 feet long.

The stupid pelican decided to land in this spot.

There are more than 10,000 birds nesting on this island and he is the only one with oil.

Some areas to the east are worse but not as bad as made out.

The oil for the most part is still offshore.

It will come onshore sometime, but BP is fighting with more than 300 boats cleaning and putting out booms.

There are probably 50 million birds in southern Louisiana, and only 53 confirmed dead, not thousands as reported.

I Know it will get worse but it irritates me that the news media slants the news.

I noticed that when Obama came to town, he waved his arms but nothing improved.

I guess he lost his magic touch. I just wanted to pass along an eyewitness report.,

I dont know where I will be next hitch, but we are short senior Captains so probably back to the spill. If so I will update my report later.


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