Solved New rumor about this website!!!

May 28, 2011 at 18:17:51
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There's a new rumor going around that this whole website is run of of 4 Linux servers at some guy's house! LOL! kind of lousy, though. Tried Linux and it suks. Too many problems to type! ended up erasing the parition.

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#1
May 28, 2011 at 19:34:02
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Hi,

This website? No, that rumor is completely false. Not sure where you heard it.

Justin


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#2
May 28, 2011 at 20:44:06
Linux is good - old. Takes a little work to start but generally more reliable. My first install RH5.1 on PB486SX25 ran for over 3 months continuously as a workstation on a ISP's webserver until forced to shut off because the site moved.

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#3
May 28, 2011 at 21:38:34
Really, what difference does it make what the site runs on (or where it's located)? As long as it works as well as it does. As far as Linux is concerned, I'd probably run it myself (and often do with live discs). Found out long ago that as long as something works, don't question it...

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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#4
May 29, 2011 at 05:47:48
OLDISGOOD

I'd wager if not a majority of, then certainly a large percentage of the worlds servers run on a *nix based servers. I know where I work, we have more *nix based servers than windows. Our AD integrated domain runs on Windows (of course) and our citrix boxes are windows based, but all our web servers are linux and our routers are UNIX based. I haven't counted but of the several hundred servers in our environment, I suspect the ratio of *nix to Windows is no less than 4 to 1 and more likely [6 to 10] to 1

Just because you don't know how to use it and are too lazy to, or incapable of learning it, doesn't make any particular operating system bad. It just means you're.......well...........not that bright.

As for this rumor of yours........it's quite humorous. I doubt very much you "heard" anything of the sort. I know I've been hanging out on CN since the 90's. I know, and regularly converse with other helpers here and I've heard no such thing. I suspect you just made that up and posted it here looking for a reaction.........which takes you from "not that bright" to "idiot"

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How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
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#5
May 29, 2011 at 06:40:19
Curt R,

Just to clarify, the part about the site running on linux is true. The reason I said completely false is that everything else is wrong, so the "rumor" makes no sense.

I agree, if you understand Linux, it is one of the best operating systems to run a server. One of the biggest benefits is the open-source nature. I have a development server in my office that I setup with CentOS for free. Imagine if Computing.Net ran on Windows Server 2008. I'd have to pay a fortune just to setup the dev server with that OS!

On the other hand, I do understand why so many servers run Windows. I just got lucky that I started with unix based servers... had to go through the learning process through time to learn everything about them. If you don't know anything about unix, it could be a pretty daunting task to setup a linux server properly. So many system administrators out there only have experience with Windows. Its easier to fall back on what you know, even if its not as good.

Justin


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#6
May 29, 2011 at 06:59:29
Curt - I found your post informative.

However I think the last nine words are unnecessary and un-called for, also three are used elsewhere, again unnecessarily.

Please reconsider and maybe edit out.

Thanks - Mike

Good Luck - Keep us posted.


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#7
May 29, 2011 at 10:26:43
My bad..... Heard it off of a guy called "Darto". thread: "Reinstalling DOS6.2 and Windows 3.1". Just goes to show that everything you see on the internet is NOT true! Well.... about the "I don't know how to use Linux" thing from Curt R, I had a friend who had used Linux ever since it came out and he said i had a bad version. (one that somebody edited and didn't test.) Thats what i get for downloading it from a Russian website!!

Also see my post: "UPDATED 1997 game quit suddenly w/ err codes" I need answers on this!


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#8
May 29, 2011 at 13:55:36
I don't particularly care for Linux at all. It isn't that I think it is bad or there is something wrong with. The short comming is my own. I am a windows baby. I spent many years learning how to be more efficient with windows and how to understand the windows enviroment better. I am still doing that. After about ten years of everything I did being windows based ( spoiled ) I tried then to just jump right on the Linux band wagon. I spent a lot of time scratching my head. I still try to use it a bit in an attempt to keep learniing in case I get a client that uses it.

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#9
May 29, 2011 at 19:14:52
Curt R:

re: "I'd wager if not a majority of, then certainly a large percentage of the worlds servers run on a *nix based servers."

Obviously, the large percentage you mentioned must be 50 percent or less, otherwise it would be a majority.

Now that we've established the Upper Limit, I'm curious as to the Lower Limit.

At what point does a medium percentage become a large percentage?

;-)

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#10
May 29, 2011 at 20:34:04
33.3 %???

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#11
May 30, 2011 at 00:49:37
large percentage vs small percentage - if comparing two items then large must be greater than small - therefore >50% and <50%.

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#12
May 30, 2011 at 08:29:00
I realize I missed something in my first post. When I said, "I'd wager if not a majority of, then certainly a large percentage of the worlds servers run on a *nix based servers." I was referring to web servers. I simply forgot to put "web" in and missed it on my proofread.

I've worked way too long in industry to think that *nix based servers hold the majority when considering the total of all servers used. You can't run a windows based domain on *nix ergo it follows logically Windows based servers hold the majority overall.

While I've never done an actual survey I know all the web servers where I work are running on redhat linux. I've had reason over the years to call many hosting sites and arrange contracts with them for clients web sites and I can't recall more than a handful that were windows based servers.

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#13
May 30, 2011 at 13:31:09
Published statistics seem to vary widely, but the general conclusion seems to be that it's about 65% Linux/Unix vs 35% Windows. (Here's a typical survey.)

Whatever your definition of "large percentage", you are correct.


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#14
May 30, 2011 at 16:03:25
wizard fred:

re: "large percentage vs small percentage - if comparing two items then large must be greater than small - therefore >50% and <50%."

Bzzzzzzt! Wrong answer

Curt R said "if not a majority of, then certainly a large percentage of" therefore large cannot mean >50% in Curt's post because then it would be a majority - by definition.

Just having fun...


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#15
May 31, 2011 at 02:56:03
If their are only two choices and a choice for either is required then the large percentage is a majority. If there are many choices and both none of the above and no choice is allowed then what is the largest choice? it could be no choice or undetermined.

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#16
May 31, 2011 at 03:02:50
But, in this case, there are more than two choices.

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#17
May 31, 2011 at 03:53:40
Please re-read Curt's post. He offered more than 2 choices:

1 - A majority
2 - If not a majority, a large percentage
3 - By implication, a small percentage

Therefore, a "large percentage" must top out at 50% in this scenario, otherwise it would be a majority.

So we know the top end, but the question still remains: Where does that "large percentage" start - in this scenario..

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#18
May 31, 2011 at 07:24:07
What I said originally, edited to add the missing word, was:

"I'd wager if not a majority of, then certainly a large percentage of the worlds web servers run on a *nix based servers. "

In my mind, that leaves two options;
1) the majority (more than 50%)
or
2) a large percentage (say between 30% and 50%)

Thanks for posting a link to that survey ijack

That actually aligns with my own experience in industry. Of course the statistics could be skewed, as statistics so often are, but my own experience tells me this is relatively close to the truth.

Other people's experience may vary but if you randomly contacted 100 different web host businesses and asked them what they used as their OS of choice on their web servers, I'd bet you'd find around 6 out of 10 use linux.

It matters not how straight the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

***William Henley***


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#19
May 31, 2011 at 17:02:47
Please people, just stop! this guy (darto) had passed this on to me, and now you people are WAY out of context! Just stop. I don't care how many servers run Linux, but my expirence is it doesn't work THAT good, so i ditched it on the Word of Windows.

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#20
June 1, 2011 at 00:18:22
I suspect the thread was out of context from the start. If you play with fire you must expect to get flamed. But thanks for your informed comments on Linux.

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#21
June 1, 2011 at 07:31:25
LOL ijack

Indeed!

Look OLDISGOOD just for the record, we're not taking anything out of context. Your original post said, and I quote:

There's a new rumor going around that this whole website is run of of 4 Linux servers at some guy's house! LOL! kind of lousy, though. Tried Linux and it suks. Too many problems to type! ended up erasing the parition.

You've been informed that the site does indeed run on a linux server (or servers - plural - as the case may be). Justin himself verified that and also said, (in his own words) "everything else is wrong, so the "rumor" makes no sense"

He said that referring to your original post.

Granted, the thread did sidetrack a bit with a dicussion on the number of linux/UNIX based web servers in the world, but we never really went out of context.

Don't go away, I'm not done with you yet......

Mike Newcomb

If you didn't like what I said before, be fair warned, you're not going to like what I'm about to say. I suggest you stop reading now. If you insist on reading the rest of this response of mine, don't bother replying and telling me what I'm about to say is uncalled for. Not to be rude but I couldn't give a darn about your opinion of what I have to say to someone else so sticking it in is a waste of your time and effort.

OLDISGOOD

You said, again, "but my expirence is it doesn't work THAT good, so i ditched it on the Word of Windows.

I was wrong to say "you're not so bright"

What I should have said, and am saying now, is you're an idiot

Just because you don't have the IQ and skillset to make linux work does not make it an inferiror operating system.

It works just fine for those who have the smarts and are willing to spend the time to learn it. In a lot of ways, it's more flexible and superior to Windows.

Not that I'm a linux guru, I'm not. But I know enough about Linux/UNIX to know it's an excellent operating system.

And that's all I have to say to you so don't waste your breath responding to me, I won't read it.

Don't go away mad, just go away..........

It matters not how straight the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

***William Henley***


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#22
June 1, 2011 at 11:10:30
Oh, i'm going back to the DOS forum!!!

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#23
June 1, 2011 at 12:48:10
ROTFLMFAO @ going back to the DOS forum.

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