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June 25, 2011 at 10:36:54
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If I read the latest statistics correctly cell phones have become nearly as great a cause of death as alcohol. I am thinking skynet gave up on the terminator series and is now sending SMART PHONES back through the portal to do us in.

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June 29, 2011 at 08:22:53
I think I have successfully demonstrated that being a clutz and not a very graceful one is not all that good for a person as well.

You and me both.........ROFLMAO

One of the reasons I got into computers was so I could stop mangling myself at work......I've had some success with that although I've still managed to hurt myself from time to time.

The wife and I were just on vacation. We did our bi-annual trip toe the US to visit her family. In total, we drove 5850 km's (approx 3530 miles) total going through Washington, Oregon, Idaho, BC and home to Alberta, Canada. I forget where exactly, but I believe it was in BC, we were climbing a mountain pass and were passing a semi who was in the slow traffic lane. All of a sudden the semi swerved across the line into my lane and nearly sideswiped my truck and trailer. The dumba$$ was texting while driving!

I got the company information off the truck, including the unit number and the companies phone number and within 5 minutes we had called the company and reported this idiot. Personally, I hope he got fired. Just FYI, I was driving and my wife made the call so I didn't even have to do it with the hands-free setup.

We've had 3 deaths in the last 2 years in my area directly related to idiot kids trying to text while driving.

I'm sorry but no one here no industry spokesman and no govenment official will ever make me believe that the use of a cell phone by a driver hands free or not is safe at all.

I have no trouble with using the phone to talk (hands-free) while driving. It's no different than talking to a passenger. Something I'm sure you do yourself likely The guy you referred to who cracked up was obviously not competent to drive and have any kind of conversation and I suspect, unable to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time without walking into a wall.

I suspect he's an exception rather than the norm.

I've never had an accident while talking to a passenger in my vehicle, have you?

My issue with people talking on the cell while driving is when they don't have bluetooth and have to hold their phone to their head.

Texting while driving is beyond stupid and if the people who did that only killed themselves I wouldn't mind because they'd be doing the world a favor by not passing on their defective genes to anybody else. But since they, like drunk drivers, kill others too.........someone needs to find a way to effectively shut down cell phones while in motor vehicle that is in gear.

If that means shutting them down completely so you can't make phone calls then fine, I'd be happy with that too. For the amount of time I use one while driving, it wouldn't matter to me and I have no problem with pulling over and putting the vehicle in park to use my phone on the rare occasions I need to use it while driving.

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June 25, 2011 at 12:52:09
I knew it was a mistake to make phone calls whilst smashed.

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June 25, 2011 at 15:22:45
Too drunk to stmble to your car?? There's an app for that. It's called yellow cab.

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June 26, 2011 at 05:21:46
Imagine how the ratings will jump when they finally link cell phones to brain cancer. My best friend, who lived on his phone. died of a brain tumor two years ago. The doctors couldn't explain how he got the tumor. He never smoked and no one had a family history of cancer. Go figure !!

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June 26, 2011 at 11:39:15
I saw a fight almost get started outside of walmart yesterday because of one of those bluetooth ear pieces. Sad thing was both men went in to it thinking it was a racial issue. It was a young black gentleman on his bluetooth headed towards the entrance. I heard him say " You stupid mother f*&%@r" rather loudly as an older white man was exiting with what I thought was his grand daughter. He reacted by grabbing the young man and saying "What did you call me you s.o.b.?". Thankfully there was an employee there to step in before it went to blows. To be honest I didn't see the headset and thought the youngman was trying to start crap myself. In the end the younger of the two explained himself and they both apologized to eachother. It just seems to me that in general being on the phone hands free or not makes one oblivious to his\her surroundings (can't talk and think at the same time).

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June 26, 2011 at 11:41:46
@ ijack The last time I did a little drunk dialing was was 92 and it cost me a butt whoopin' from a future husband of an ex- gilrfriend.

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#6
June 26, 2011 at 12:38:23
"...who lived on his phone. died of a brain tumor two years ago. The doctors couldn't explain how he got the tumor."

Yeah, I'd always wondered about this for a long while. It's a big reason I set up a hands-free setup in my car for my Droid.

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June 27, 2011 at 07:41:20
I wouldn't say there's a direct relation between getting a tumor in your head and cell phones. While I can't say there isn't, it is worth keeping in mind that many people who don't smoke develope one form or another of cancer.

If a non-smoking woman developes breast cancer, is that from holding her cell phone too close to her chest? Or what about the non-smoking guy who developes testicular cancer. Is his cell phone in his shorts? What about the guy that gets prostate cancer.............

I have a coworker who's 44 and just had surgery because he got prostate cancer. He's never smoked a day in his life and has only had cell phone for a couple of years and definitely doesn't walk around with it shoved up his..........you get my drift.

But I digress, my point is, you can't for sure point at the cell phone and say, "That's why this person got a brain tumor" Sure you can say it may have helped cause it but there really is no proof at this point in time that it did in fact cause them to get cancer.

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June 27, 2011 at 11:07:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgjx...
Is a video with controversy...if cell phones can pop corn, they probably have other things that can harm you.
I'm just hoping for the day when cell phones will have an automatic block that will stop a person from using it while a vehicle is in motion...it would prevent a lot of texting deaths which are running rampant right now.

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#9
June 27, 2011 at 19:24:24
Yes, Curt, you have a point. I'm not saying the brain tumor was caused by the cell phone. He might have gotten it anyway. We all have cancer cells that lie dormant and never manifest in some people. European studies have linked certain forms of cancer to cell phone usage, so they say. Can you imagine the repercussions it would have on the industry if they positively linked it to cell phones. The popcorn video that xpuser refers to is scary. The other references you make to various forms of cancer is irrelevant because a cell phone doesn't come in direct contact with that body part. I personally don't use a cell phone enough to worry about it too much. I don't believe enough research has been done concerning cell usage and brain cancer. Years ago, doctors endorsed cigarette smoking. Time will tell.

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#10
June 28, 2011 at 07:53:23
XpUser4Real

Have you ever heard of "viral videos"?

Don't beleive everything you see on youtube and start watching MythBusters They frequently disprove a LOT of viral videos and show them to be fakes (in a lot of cases, very good and very convincing fakes).

I believe this video is a complete fake and the first indication that there's something fishy is the VERY long tablecloth that is under the wood (?) piece on top of the table.

This reminds me of a story that was on the Darwin Awards web site some years back concerning a fellow who sat in front of the big cellular cones on a phone tower (he was allegedly a worker for the phone company) to "warm up" on a cold winters night and cooked himself to death. As the story went, he was found sitting in a lawnchair with a case of beer dead as a doornail. I suspect if you go to the Darwin Awards website you can find not only mention of that story, but also the fact that it was a complete hoax.

I had to look, here's the link:

http://www.darwinawards.com/legends...

FWIW, I lived next door in Saskatchewan in 98 and believe you me, had this really happened, it would have been all over the news. It never was.

I'd bet you don't believe the cell phones popped the corn either.

It is a funny video though and very well done......or at least the first minute or so that I did watch, I didn't watch all of it.

I agree with you 100% on a way to block them while driving. The wife and I were just on holidays and while passing a semi going up a mountain (that did have a separate passing lane which he was in) the dude driving swerved into our lane and almost side swiped my truck/trailer. He was texting while driving.

I got the contact information off his truck and my wife phoned his company and supplied them with time/date/location/truck number and I hope the duma$$ gets fired.

In my local, 3 kids have died in the last year and half because they were texting while driving.

grasshopper

Can you imagine the repercussions it would have on the industry if they positively linked it to cell phones

I for one would actually welcome that as it would give me a viable excuse to throw mine back at my boss and refuse to ever touch one again! I hate having to carry it. I already had one wife, now I have a second one............grrrrrrrrrrrrr

All kidding around aside, I don't use one enough to matter either. Both our vehicles have built in bluetooth which means I can press a button on the steering wheel, tell the phone to dial and have a conversation and then press another button, again on the steering wheel, to hang up and end the call. All hands free and that keeps the actual cell phone away from my head.

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June 28, 2011 at 10:58:05
Yes, Curt, i don't actually believe that you can pop corn with a cell phone, but like you said, it was well done. I used to use my cell phone a lot more before I semi-retired. I switched it to pay as you go and saved a whole lot of money. i kept my wife and divorced my phone. I watch Myth Busters all the time. It's a great show and certainly ends a lot of myths.

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#12
June 28, 2011 at 11:26:18
A recent study found that those of us that wear our cell phone in a holster on our hip have less-dense pelvic bones on that side.

http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/n...

If the cell phone is indeed the cause, what am I supposed to do? If I keep it in a front pants pocket, my thigh bone will be weaker.

If I keep it in my shirt pocket, my chest bone will be weaker and who knows what it could do to my heart.

I guess I could keep it in my back pocket since I don't really have a butt bone but I'm sure that some form of butt bruising will occur and that can't be good either.

So I guess I need to set up a rotating schedule where I move my cell phone from pocket to pocket ensuring that I weaken all of my bones, but at a very minor amount per area.

...or I could choose not to worry about it, which sounds so, so much easier.



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#13
June 28, 2011 at 15:50:48
I no longer carry a cell phone except maybe once or twice a week. A couple weeks back I drove 13 hours to North Carolina to pick up my wife who had gone to stay a few weeks with our daughter. I had my cell with me for the trip but it was turned off except for a couple stops I made. There have been a couple periods in my life when I carried a cell on my hip for work for 5 - 7 years and I have a messed up hip. I blame in on slipping and falling on the ice in Pittsburgh three times while living there. All three times I landed on that hip. After moving back here I fell from a 12 foot ladder and again landed on that hip. While this all indeed proves nothing about cell phones I think I have successfully demonstrated that being a clutz and not a very graceful one is not all that good for a person as well.

I am sure there are some sort of issues caused by prolonged use of these things but I for one can't intellegently speak on them. The one issue I do see and have no doubt about is the use behind the wheel and I am not reffering to just texting. I have watched a well dressed man in a brand new expensive vehicle driving along talking on his built in bluetooth get so involved in the conversation he did not notice the red light or the stopped vehicle he was approaching that is until the impact. This is not an isolated incident. I watched a teen aged boy run up underneath the rear of a dump truck while texting he was killed. I'm sorry but no one here no industry spokesman and no govenment official will ever make me believe that the use of a cell phone by a driver hands free or not is safe at all. Sure there are some that can get away with it. There are many that can get away with being fall down drunk behind the wheel as well but that doesn't make it safe.

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June 29, 2011 at 08:22:53
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I think I have successfully demonstrated that being a clutz and not a very graceful one is not all that good for a person as well.

You and me both.........ROFLMAO

One of the reasons I got into computers was so I could stop mangling myself at work......I've had some success with that although I've still managed to hurt myself from time to time.

The wife and I were just on vacation. We did our bi-annual trip toe the US to visit her family. In total, we drove 5850 km's (approx 3530 miles) total going through Washington, Oregon, Idaho, BC and home to Alberta, Canada. I forget where exactly, but I believe it was in BC, we were climbing a mountain pass and were passing a semi who was in the slow traffic lane. All of a sudden the semi swerved across the line into my lane and nearly sideswiped my truck and trailer. The dumba$$ was texting while driving!

I got the company information off the truck, including the unit number and the companies phone number and within 5 minutes we had called the company and reported this idiot. Personally, I hope he got fired. Just FYI, I was driving and my wife made the call so I didn't even have to do it with the hands-free setup.

We've had 3 deaths in the last 2 years in my area directly related to idiot kids trying to text while driving.

I'm sorry but no one here no industry spokesman and no govenment official will ever make me believe that the use of a cell phone by a driver hands free or not is safe at all.

I have no trouble with using the phone to talk (hands-free) while driving. It's no different than talking to a passenger. Something I'm sure you do yourself likely The guy you referred to who cracked up was obviously not competent to drive and have any kind of conversation and I suspect, unable to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time without walking into a wall.

I suspect he's an exception rather than the norm.

I've never had an accident while talking to a passenger in my vehicle, have you?

My issue with people talking on the cell while driving is when they don't have bluetooth and have to hold their phone to their head.

Texting while driving is beyond stupid and if the people who did that only killed themselves I wouldn't mind because they'd be doing the world a favor by not passing on their defective genes to anybody else. But since they, like drunk drivers, kill others too.........someone needs to find a way to effectively shut down cell phones while in motor vehicle that is in gear.

If that means shutting them down completely so you can't make phone calls then fine, I'd be happy with that too. For the amount of time I use one while driving, it wouldn't matter to me and I have no problem with pulling over and putting the vehicle in park to use my phone on the rare occasions I need to use it while driving.

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June 29, 2011 at 08:36:46
What if there was something like an antenna inside each car and when the key is turned to start the car, it sends a signal to the phone telling it to turn off.

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June 29, 2011 at 09:35:38
What if there was something like an antenna inside each car and when the key is turned to start the car, it sends a signal to the phone telling it to turn off. One of the biggest problems today is lack of common sense. As a society, we have become so dependent on someone or something telling us what to do, that we've lost the ability to think for ourselves. Electronics should be to help us make life a little easier at times, it shouldn't be a life style. Think for yourself. it's not really that hard.

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June 29, 2011 at 12:01:29
Still, if people are always social, are they even going to think about turning off their phone? Of course not. I'd expect a plan like that to be used in states that have the cell phone ban law.

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June 29, 2011 at 12:13:12
While I agree with grasshopper about common sense (which is in reality a misnomer........there's nothing "common" about good sense after all) and not having someone else tell me what's good for me or what I can and cannot do........I have to admit that there's something to be said for making it so stupid people who lack sense can't hurt people who do.

What I mean is, if you could say, install the antenna RMT2 is talking about it would prevent the idiot who texts and drives from hitting me, who isn't that stupid and is driving in a manner safe for myself and everyone else on the road. Sure, I can control what I do, but I'm helpless against someone elses stupidity, or just plain cussidness.

They've got breathalyzers you can install in a car that the driver has to blow in before they can hope to start the car. If your blood alcohol level is to high, the car won't start. I can't honestly see something similar regarding cell phones as being a bad idea.........even though I do find it offensive when somebody else tries to tell me they want me to do something in particular, or stop doing something, for my own good.

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June 29, 2011 at 17:13:49
@ Curt R I don't know. When I first started driving I was lead to believe that it was one hell of a resposibility that this was something that required all of ones attention. Now I know this isn't a difficult task but nonetheless I still feel this is where all attention should be. I guess I kind of forced myself to this point by spending a few years driving a racecar when it only takes a second of lost concentration to destroy ones car and maybe end up with injuries as well. All that being said I also feel that maybe I have a god complex becuase I firmly believe that person that cannot walk and chew gum at the same time IS the norm in this day and age. The accident I described as stated was not an isolated incident. Most I have seen have been rather minor but believe that to be just dumb luck and not at all due to any kind of common sence.

I no longer drink at all but between the ages of 16 and 24 it was almost all I did it seemed. I spent may a nights driving home being well beyond the limit for comatose let alone the legal drunk limit with no troubles ever. I can't count the number of days I spent shiverring from alcohol poisoning. When you do this in sunny Florida on a summers day you tend to get some very strange looks. I was not only capable of driving fairly well while drunk I could even make most officers I encountered believe I had only had maybe two beers which for a man my size was nothing. My point is that while some heck maybe even the majority can talk over their bluetooth or whatever handsfree device and drive just fine there appearntly are many (enough) that cannot. This leaves me thinking cell phones and vehicles do not mix and will never be safe. If say 70% of us can do it do you want to get run down by one of those 30% that cannot?

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June 29, 2011 at 18:44:33
While I don't agree that those of us who use our cells phone responsibly* while driving should be punished because of those that just don't get it, if a device that prohibits cell phone use in motor vehicles is mandated, it should not turn the cell phone off.

At a minimum, 911 calls should allowed, both outgoing and incoming.

I'd sure like to be able to call 911 if I'm in or see an emergency situation. I'd also like to be sure that someone else could call 911 if I'm lying in the street in a bloody heap.

Many smart phones have GPS capability and that feature should also remain activated for emergency situations.

* By "responsibly" I mean using hands free technology, being aware that we are distracted and taking extra care, knowing when to hang up and drive, etc.


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#21
June 29, 2011 at 20:33:58
Thing that bothers me is it would seem that we no longer recognize resposibility. If I drink too much and kill someone it is the bar tenders fault. I have now seen three cases like this here locally alone. If miss a light and hit someone while on the phone it wasn't my fault the light should have been more visible or clear. If my kids turn out to be bad hey I have to work it is societies fault. We all see it every day. I know this isn't everyone and maybe those that are responsible far out number those that aren't. Problem is that those that do not feel the need to pay attention are not in small numbers or in just one place. Their numbers are high enough that they pose a problem for us all. I am not in favor of some device that turns the phone off in the car. I am however in favor of forcing resposibilty on the users. Get caught on the phone while in a moving vehicle and spend a year in prison. If it causes an accident 10 years loss of life means you spend life. As it stands the only real penalty there is is if the user gets him or herself hurt. The monitary fines are a joke. Is it right that responsible people should have to pay? No but in my mind a responsible person isn't talking on their phone while driving either. Maybe my punishments are a bit harsh. Maybe just take away their driving privilages with no options for work permits,

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June 30, 2011 at 07:56:59
@ Curt R I don't know. When I first started driving I was lead to believe that it was one hell of a resposibility that this was something that required all of ones attention. Now I know this isn't a difficult task but nonetheless I still feel this is where all attention should be.

I agree with you 100%. I also think, if you have half a brain and some experience driving, you should be able to drive competently and do things like listen to music, or talk to a passenger, without getting into or causing an accident.

I kind of forced myself to this point by spending a few years driving a racecar when it only takes a second of lost concentration to destroy ones car and maybe end up with injuries as well.

While I never drove race cars, I did spend the majority of the 80's driving semi's. The same rule applies no matter what you drive.......the consequences just differ. One mistake in a rig going 60 mph, or even 30 mph, could cause BIG damage and/or death.

All that being said I also feel that maybe I have a god complex becuase I firmly believe that person that cannot walk and chew gum at the same time IS the norm in this day and age.

I wouldn't say you have a "God complex", I'd just say you're observant. However, I don't think the issue is an inabliity to walk and chew bubble gum. I believe the issue is a complete and total lack of any sense. What kind of idiot thinks they can drive and text at the same time?

I have a friend and he told me one day he was thinking of getting a portable DVD player so he could watch movies while driving long distances. I tore a chunk out of him. He was adamant that he could drive and watch movies without becoming distracted. I told him he was dead wrong and to think otherwise made him an idiot and then I told him, "If you proceed with this stupidity do me one big favor, always call me before you head out on the road so I can make sure I'm no where near where you'll be driving."

I also advised him to ask a few other people we know what they thought of his "bright" idea and I also gave him my little brother's phone number and told him to talk to my bro about this. Little brother is a cop.

I'm not sure what convninced him, but he never did follow through on this stupidity........thank goodness!

I no longer drink at all but between the ages of 16 and 24 it was almost all I did it seemed. I spent may a nights driving home being well beyond the limit for comatose let alone the legal drunk limit with no troubles ever.

Sadly, I started earlier than you. I went from around age 14 to 24. Like you, I drove drunk too many times (and even once is too damn many!) Twice I wrecked my car (thank God it was only me hitting a boulevard or ditch and not another person or vehicle!) but still didn't learn anything. At 24 I quit drinking and haven't had a drop since. It scares me to think now about doing that then.

What makes me drinking and driving even worse is, my best and oldest friend in the world's mom was killed by a drunk driver when we were 12.

I'm incredibly happy today that I didn't kill, or injure, anybody back then. I know I'll never drink and drive again because I'll never drink again.

While I agree 100% nobody should be allowed to text while driving..........the line gets fuzzy after that point. If I have a hands-free bluetooth setup (and I do in both vehicles) that allows me to make, or answer, a phonecall while driving without ever removing my hands from the steering wheel, why shouldn't I be allowed to use it?

What about allowing a passenger to use theirs? I have no issues with that either.

Sadly, I don't think we'll ever figure out a way to just limit texters unless you can find a way to turn off the ablitiy to text while driving. If you could, I'd say implement it tomorrow across the board!

I agree with being personally responsible for our actions and I dislike that we're becoming a society where we can, and people often do, blame others for their mistakes. I also agree the penalties for driving and texting should be tough enough to make people stop doing it. Just like I believe the penatly for drunk driving needs to be tough. The problem is convincing the people who make the laws.

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June 30, 2011 at 09:27:13
Curt R: Excellent post.

re: "Just like I believe the penalty for drunk driving needs to be tough. The problem is convincing the people who make the laws."

I think for the most part the penalties - as written by those that make the laws - are tough enough. The problem is the lawyers and judges who allow the plea bargains that reduce the penalties.

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#24
June 30, 2011 at 12:35:22
Oh lord I could go on for hours about the lack of penalties for attempted murder (DUI) and probibly have already. Yes I am a hypocrite, sue me, but I find few lower in the scheme of life than drunk drivers.

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#25
June 30, 2011 at 16:18:39
If my car turns off my cell phone, that will just give me more time to eat my greasy hamburger, shave, put the cream and sugar in my coffee and read through the notes for my next meeting, all while trying to find a Italian restaurant on my GPS.


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#26
June 30, 2011 at 21:47:14
That greasy burger will eventually kill you and get you off my street trying to shave while driving may do it sooner and if ya poor that hot (McDonalds) coffee in your crotch you can claim you can no longer have sex get awarded $3 Million and afford a chauffer. The next meeting will be cancled and NOW YOU WANT ITALIAN? You fat fool you just ate a burger. I agree all these things and much more are going on behind the wheel all the time. I would still love to know how a woman can put on make-up, drink coffee, smoke, read the paper, and drive. I know it is possible I have seen it.
When I started this thread it was about the fact that I read somewhere that cell phones now cause more deaths than alcohol so I am going to focus on that one problem today. If you like you can take on the eaters, drinkers, shavers, readers, or players with other gadgets. I do not have either the intelligence nor the simple ability to take on more than one group of buttholes at a time so I chose one and for the moment I am sticking to it. I have spoken to a state senator about my thoughts on this issue and he basically assured me that I should not have voted for him. His thought is any cell phone regulation may be looked at as a freedom of speech issue at least that is what that dumb son of a ..... passed on to me. I tried going after the drunk drivers and have come to the conclusion that if I were a drunk driver now I would have a brother in law in congress or something to that affect because no one at least in our local government wants to touch it. I do other things when I can to attempt to keep them off the road as much as one person can.

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#27
July 1, 2011 at 08:03:25
re: "The next meeting will be cancled and NOW YOU WANT ITALIAN? You fat fool you just ate a burger."

umm...Did it cross your mind that the burger was for lunch and the Italian restaurant is for dinner?

The problem is that without my cell phone being operational, making reservations is going to be an issue.

I guess I'll have to open my laptop on the passenger seat, drive around until I find a hot-spot then circle the area while I make an on-line reservation.

BTW...I once saw a guy driving on the highway (70+ MPH) with the yellow pages propped up against the steering wheel as he flipped through the pages.

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#28
July 1, 2011 at 10:04:43
Wow, some people these days. I haven't seen any crazy multitasking, but I am sure it is happening somewhere. Okay, so the battery dies in the laptop before you finish the reservation. So now you turn to the center console with the built in navigation system and phone to start dialing up the phone number of the restaurant, but you can't remember, it was on the laptop. So you turn around and open up the briefcase in the backseat and take out the emergency battery, while you are still going at 40 MPH. Now it starts getting bumpy, and you look out the front window to see that you are driving on the sidewalk, and you quickly turn off before a cop sees you. Now you put the battery in and...

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#29
July 1, 2011 at 10:55:28
Can't take two minutes out of your busy day to pull over and make the reservation? Can't do it from the office while standing around the break room drinking coffee complaining about what you saw some idiot do in traffic? If you live in your car then you are homeless and do not need to be making reservations for fancy meals. Or it is time for a change in your life. Seems silly to be paying six figures for a home just to store your stuff between meetings. Sell it and buy in the low five figure range. Take the monthly savings from those overstuffed payments and put it into a taxi or limo or whatnot and save a few lives. I am sorry but in my eyes if your life is so hectic that the only time you have left to do these kinds of things is when your behind the wheel then you have more problems to deal with. I am sorry your life has gone this bad.

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#30
July 1, 2011 at 12:12:59
likelystory, do us a favor...

Look back over this thread and see if you can find the part where you lost track of where I was being serious and where I wasn't.

RMT2 got it...too bad you didn't.

Chill out.

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#31
July 1, 2011 at 13:08:47
I get it. I thought I was playing along.

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#32
July 1, 2011 at 14:44:27
Well this is the Lounge, you don't have to be serious. :)

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#33
July 1, 2011 at 15:07:54
Sorry...but you sounded way too serious.

I am sorry your life has gone this bad.


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#34
July 1, 2011 at 17:26:37
"I am sorry that your life has gone bad."

What if I am not sad about it?

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#35
July 1, 2011 at 19:52:48
It was a sad attempt at sarcasm. Sorry poor typing skills.

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#36
July 2, 2011 at 09:00:03
But saying it is "sad" is an opinion of any person that says it, not a fact, making it so that it may be the truth, but it might not be, because it is not a proven fact.

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#37
July 2, 2011 at 09:30:07
Yeah what he said.

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#38
July 3, 2011 at 11:41:10
If he wasn't being serious when he said it then it wasn't an opinion even though it is a fact that he wasn't being serious so we still don't know if it's a fact or not because it could still be a fact (or an opinion) even if the person who said it didn't mean to state it as a fact (or as an opinion) but merely as a sarcastic utterance of something that may or may not be a fact or even an opinion.

I need a nap now.

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#39
July 3, 2011 at 12:28:02
Not so sure about one of the earlier responses suggesting a hands free mobile might be OK.

The main problem is the distraction caused to the driver. The person the other end will keep the driver engrosed because only the driver will see the truck ahead that has just slammed on its brakes or the kid that has leaped out into the road.

I think this is a whole lot different to listening to a radio. A phone call is more demanding and you can be asked by the caller to solve problems, make decisions, or whatever, expecting full attention.

Police statistics seem to bear this out.


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#40
July 4, 2011 at 10:36:15
I agree.

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#41
July 4, 2011 at 13:11:42
Yeah, the only distraction that might be caused by a radio would be hearing, such as not hearing a car horn or siren if you have it turned up too loud. Then a cell phone distracts your sight which is critical to driving and hearing if you are talking and not texting. It seems correct.

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#42
July 4, 2011 at 13:52:49
I would say "concentration" is the main thing. All manner of things can distract but a mobile phone call or texting demands a great deal of concentration on that activity, which leaves less for driving.


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#43
July 4, 2011 at 18:44:26
Exactly, a lot like a processor lol. If you are running an intensive program, the CPU has less power to do other things.

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#44
July 4, 2011 at 21:50:08
I am thinking the closest fix we may see is some sort of motion detection system in the phone that automatically dials 911 when the motion is abruptly ended.

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#45
July 5, 2011 at 08:06:55
"On-Star" already does that.


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#46
July 5, 2011 at 09:03:17
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#47
July 5, 2011 at 11:54:22
And everyone has on-star?

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#48
July 5, 2011 at 12:27:46
Now that is a new survey we can waste money on! Find out how many people in the US have On-Star in their cars :)!

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#49
July 5, 2011 at 14:45:33
I am sure the goverment will gladly throw at least three million at some ivey league university to conduct thay survey. Hey! Another good excuse to raise taxes!

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#50
July 5, 2011 at 15:17:49
For those who must be connect all the time, the cell phone, is just the start, see what the auto industry is ready to unleash on the driving public:

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DEARBORN, Mich., Dec. 21, 2009–Ford Motor Company will turn vehicles into rolling WiFi hot spots when it introduces the second generation of its popular SYNC® in-car connectivity system next year.

Inserting an owner’s compatible USB mobile broadband modem–sometimes called an “air card”– into SYNC’s USB port will produce a secure wireless connection that will be broadcast throughout the vehicle, allowing passengers with WiFi-enabled mobile devices to access the Internet anywhere the broadband modem receives connectivity.

“While you’re driving to grandma’s house, your spouse can be finishing the holiday shopping and the kids can be chatting with friends and updating their Facebook profiles,” said Mark Fields, Ford president of The Americas. “And you’re not paying for yet another mobile subscription or piece of hardware because Ford will let you use technology you already have.”
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Driving is going to get more exciting.

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#51
July 5, 2011 at 15:18:15
I'd say a raise of about 2% would do it ;)!

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#52
July 5, 2011 at 23:00:21
Over 50 posts ago I started this thread as my own fairly sarcastic view of cell phones. I even included a fairly stupid old movie reference. I didn't really expect it blow up like this. In a nutshell I have a rather low opinion of cell phones. Not in so many words I have been called an idiot that cannot drive and talk at the same time and it has been said that this is the exception. Today I watched not one but two people, talking not texting, over a bluetooth earpiece walk right into a street sign. I watched as one embarrassed man got into his towncar still flapping his gums. Two miles away he ran a red light and broad sided a city bus. No one on the bus was hurt badly. He had to be flown by helicopter to the hospital after being cut out of his car. I hope whatever reason he needed to be on that phone was worth his life I also hope he does not have the same insurance company as I do.

I see all the so called statistics. I hear all the arguments. My problem I guess is I see the wrecks too. If I stand on a street corner and watch one thousand cars pass by and one of them has a wreck because he was on the phone sure that is 1 out 0f 1,000 not bad I guess statistically. Looks good on paper and all. I wander if the people that one person hurt would agree. I know I don't and never will regaurdless of what numbers get printed on that paper.

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#53
July 6, 2011 at 08:51:13
Call me skeptical, call me untrusting, call me whatever you'd like, but...

You want to talk about statistics? OK, let's...

What are the odds that 1 person saw 2 people wearing bluetooth devices walk into street signs on the same day and that one of those 2 people would T-bone a bus and have to be Mercy Flown to the hospital?

The odds have to be so astronomical as to be incalculable.


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