Dump all pre-Win7 forums maybe?

June 11, 2010 at 18:39:18
Specs: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition, 2.362 GHz / 2047 MB
I keep seeing responses from "helpers?" on the W95/98 forum who's "only input" is asking why folk are still trying to fix or improve these old machines. Presumably this is happening on all the OS forums which are dedicated to non-current OS's.

Do you think this sort of input is reasonable?

To me it is nonsense to go onto any forum dedicated to an outdated product just to make these sort of remarks. What next, querying why folk are tinkering with a 1914 car on a vintage car forum?

In a recent example the remark included the words "wasting your time". Well, I don't happen to have any interest in football but would hardly think it right to suggest others who enjoy it are wasting their time.

Yeah, I've got XP and Vista (both now outdated) and still like to keep my ole W98SE working too. Why not, it's my life to do as I please with so long as it's legal and doesn't interfere with anyone else? I even fiddle around in DOS sometimes - how awful...


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#1
June 11, 2010 at 21:19:55
Try to keep your sense of humor when those morons post crap like that.

We could just dump all post-Win7 members? Maybe?

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#2
June 12, 2010 at 06:53:22
The only postings that get to me is when someone wants to revert back on an OS. I find that pretty amusing, for example when a PC comes pre-loaded with windows 7 whatever and the poster wants to revert back to windows XP because they are more familiar with it, completely reformatting and switching. A BIG REGRET LATER

Now if it was Vista, I would say yes, for sure because vista was a M$ nightmare, same as Millenium was. But not from windows 7 to XP or later. That would be like owning a cadillac and stepping down to an old volkswagen.

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#3
June 12, 2010 at 07:26:15
"Try to keep your sense of humor when those morons post crap like that"

I was that moron. And what I commented on as being a "waste of time" was the fact that the poster had devised a 10 step mod/hack to enable Win95 to run Firefox 2.0. I don't know if he actually came up with it himself or if he found it somewhere online & posted it in the Win95/98 forum.

http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

Then Derek & the poster equated my comment to dissing someone for having a classic car, which is completely friggin ridiculous. And now he's taking it to the extreme & suggesting all forums should be dumped except Win 7?

You're taking this sh!t WAY too seriously.


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#4
June 12, 2010 at 08:01:45
For what it is worth, here is my take on this thread.

I can see both points of view here. The major point to note in this case is that the original poster in the linked thread did NOT come asking for help to accomplish that task. They managed to figure out how to do it themselves and then chose to share the information with others.

Had they came to CN asking for help at the initial stage by simply stating they wanted to make FF2 run in Win95 I would probably respond in the same manner as jam.


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#5
June 12, 2010 at 09:40:31
Maybe we should just have a forum for those that just want to post something bashing another. They don't want to help they just want to scream out how they are better than someone becuase they have a newer product. Makes them feel good that they are now the Jonses and someone has to keep up with them for a change.

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#6
June 12, 2010 at 10:05:23
The paricular post from Jam was just the latest example. There have been several others lately (no idea who from), which is why I put it on this general forum without naming anyone. I formed the opinion that it was pointless as a stand alone statement without any suggestions.

Saying "Have you considered Linux?", for example, could be helpful.

I have no issue with any particular poster - this is a just a general point. Some folk like tinkering away with old OS's and that seems fair enough to me.

As for my subject line, well maybe UK humor is a bit weird but of-course I didn't really mean that.

Hey - I've just had a thought, the world is pretty old yet we still insist on living on it LOL. Where can I download a newer version?


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#7
June 12, 2010 at 11:30:42
"Saying "Have you considered Linux?", for example, could be helpful"

I have recommended that on numerous occasions. In one recent thread, also in the Win95/98 forum, the OP wrote, "Linux? And learn an entirely new OS?".

And in the other thread (link in response # 3) I wrote "that a P3 w/512 will run Win2K, WinXP & many Linux distros very well too". It seems two of the OP's reasons for not running a newer OS is that the older OS will run faster because it's not as bloated & that hackers have stopped targeting the older OS's when it comes to viruses. (I wonder what he does that makes viruses such a concern?) That takes us back to the other thread in which the poster was searching for an anti-virus program that will still work with these old OS's & still receive regular updates.

These issues are not comparable to maintaining a classic car. There are *almost* always parts available for them if you know where to look. And a die-hard classic car guy would never attempt to fit a 2000 era braking system onto his 60's muscle car, even though the newer braking system is superior.

One more thing...I know I'm an @sshole. I have no problem with saying that. You can say what you want about my attitude but it's gotten me thru 50+ yrs of life & I'm sure as heck not gonna change because I offended someone in a forum.

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#8
June 12, 2010 at 16:47:09
As I said, this was not intended to be a personal issue hence no name was given. I happen to have seen it several times recently and have no idea who the others were.

I still regard it as pointless but if others take a different view the that is their perogative.


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#9
June 14, 2010 at 04:03:00
just joinend the forum,
Hi everyone!
My first xp laptop I did do my best to move arrange the folders around to make stuff easy to find like in win98.
I did create a bit of a mess it was a learning experince.

I am amazed by anyone that can keep these old operating systems going with no outside support.

Linux - had great dreams of leaving window$ micro$oft and going to the world of for free and free software
I had tryed and installed linux several times figuring out how to use it was another story.

I is very uplifting for me to find this forum!


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#10
June 14, 2010 at 05:16:01
I don't really understand the issue I guess. I have an old system with 98SE on it. I have found countless sites where I can get the last realeased updates for it. I have most of them on disc now anyway. Need for outside support? I don't see any. If it has gone that bad reformat and start over. Using a system that old should have taught you to do regualr backups if not oh well. As for someone asking about adding a very new program to such an old operating system, if that isn't what you are into then why do you have to answere at all let alone bash the person asking? If it is what you are into and you want to research it out to see if it can be done I am betting the OP will be happy with any help they can get.

"And a die-hard classic car guy would never attempt to fit a 2000 era braking system onto his 60's muscle car, even though the newer braking system is superior." Okay I guess I am not a diehard. I have a 67 mustang with after market break system which is essentially the same system as that on the 2006 GT. I did this because for a time I got into rally racing. Now I will agree Jam it is no longer a classic as I have altered it. However it is a 60's muscle car with a much newer much superior breaking system. And yes I can take it back to stock if I want.


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#11
June 14, 2010 at 10:41:31
re: And a die-hard classic car guy would never attempt to fit a 2000 era braking system onto his 60's muscle car

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#12
June 14, 2010 at 11:01:21
Wow, umm... yeah... NO!

Adding a CP/M section would be more helpful than removing everything but the windows 7 section.

Was this thread a crude attempt at humor?

EDIT: okay, nevermind, after re-reading this thread, I see the poster is complaining about the people that only post "upgrade to win 7" in the other sections. Makes ALOT more sense.

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#13
June 14, 2010 at 11:12:51
As the creator of this post I confirm that the subject line was NOT intended to be taken seriously. Quaint sarcastic UK humor - sometimes confuses others.


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#14
June 14, 2010 at 12:46:21
humor,
I have all the backups service pacs patches for 95 98. Maybe it was my own experience after a certain time period didn't help me at all.

think i am on my way to becoming a post whore.

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#15
June 15, 2010 at 09:11:40
"Do you think this sort of input is reasonable?"

This is an attempt at humor?

Hmmmm. Okay. Guess I missed the joke.


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#16
June 15, 2010 at 09:18:01
I agree, lets lighten up. jam and others, myself included, sometimes get frustrated by some of the threads here.

Keep in mind that the poster is getting free advice. They should take it or leave it for what it is worth.

When the day comes that Justin feels a regular here is a detriment to this site he will deal with it, and I am sure has in the past.


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#17
June 16, 2010 at 05:41:07
I teach navigation classes to people who own boats and want to learn to be safer and better boaters.

I use references from my celestial navigation classes to show how the new GPS system is based on old technology.

I get the same thing from some students who ask why do I refer to a system of navigation that is almost completely out of use in the general population.

Two reasons: 1st, because it's important to understand what navigation is about so if every thing on your glass bridge goes blank (think lightning strike) you can still navigate.

And 2nd: Because I can! :)

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#18
June 20, 2010 at 15:30:02
Why dump all pre-7 forums? I still use MS-DOS for ghost, which you will have problems with eventually, I use Windows server 2000 because Windows Server 2003 is too much & None of my computers will support Server 2008. I use Windows 98 because it is so easy to hack, and, byte bandit doesn't run properly on ANY NT version.OS\2 is used by me as my mobile OS. No one will want to steal a computer with a 14 year old OS.

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