Disk Operating System or Garbage Forum?

May 10, 2011 at 13:11:58
Specs: Windows XP home SP3, AMD Athlon 2000/512M
Well, I know, this question was discussed over and over, but the problem is now soaring to stars...

(Illetterate) Computer people seem to read DOS Forum as the place where to expose any disk related issue (hdd, cd, dvd...) no matter the underlaying operating system. This is an evidence of the overcoming incompetence of new computer users and thought DOS Forum is a minor one this is becoming a great annoiance for regulars.

Sorry to waste your time with this post but I am really bored and more have no practical ideas how to stop the trend.


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#1
May 10, 2011 at 15:17:02
I quite understand but I'm afraid the new incompetence you mentioned is affecting all forums. Questions are often not much more than "my computer is broke" (put on any old forum). It seems to have come to a head with the more widespread use of Vista & Win7 and is getting worse every day.

I guess this will all settle down when the computer gets replaced by "throw away" iPhones etc because there will be no way to fix things anyhow - just adding or removing Apps.

Please come back and let us know the outcome.


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#2
May 10, 2011 at 15:33:12
IVO,

Unfortunately, this has been a problem with the DOS forum every since Computing.Net was created. I remember over 10 years ago when people would complain about users asking Windows 95 related questions on the DOS forum. I honestly have no idea why people think they should put their questions there. I definitely do my best to move all threads reported as offensive (incorrect forum) to the appropriate ones. One thing that is not helpful is when the regulars yell at the users in a post. Then I have to deal with that as well as removing the threads. Also, it doesn't make much sense as its not the same users misposting over and over, so that yelling at one won't change anything.

Justin


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#3
May 10, 2011 at 17:20:41
Couldn't Computing.net just name the forum "DOS" instead of Disk Operating System? Just maybe... that may solve something--but, hey, it's only a hint, all. :)

Oh, and, I agree--the new direction Windows is going is sickening! Where's the *real* Windows? ;)


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#4
May 10, 2011 at 19:18:25
agreimann,

In fact, we use the name Disk Operating System to help prevent that!

Justin


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#5
May 10, 2011 at 22:15:00
What about "Disk Op. System (DOS)" in brackets.

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#6
May 10, 2011 at 23:46:09
That is honestly funny how "Disk Operating System" tries to prevent that, and instead it does the opposite! :)

@Ewen: Great point! I'd agree, too.


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#7
May 11, 2011 at 00:41:27
My bet is if you ask the average user what Disk Operating System is 7 out of 10 times the response will be XP or Vista or Win 7 or .......... or maybe "Oh that's that box under the desk right?".

Likely


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#8
May 11, 2011 at 03:21:32
Thanks for your advices and the time you spent reading this "mission impossible" thread.

I agree the solution will be iPhone/iPad pulling out illetterarate users that want just to chat, watch clips or play games. What is happening is not different from the evolution of cars. When young I could handle very well the engine inside my car, now I am afraid when a red light pops up on the driver's panel since the engine is a mistery sealed by electronics.

Complex technology may do things easy, but steals some taste in doing them.


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#9
May 11, 2011 at 06:16:32
agreimann,

I don't agree that it does the opposite. I think, if past experience is anything to go by, it would be worse if the forum name was DOS. In fact, 10 years ago, people were fighting me to get the name changed from DOS to Disk Operating System, so I guess it has come full-circle :)

The theory was that people who see DOS and know a tiny bit about computers will wrongly think, "Oh, DOS, I've heard of that, that runs the low end of my computer."

If they see Disk Op. System, they won't know what that is and choose a different forum. Now, some people who are a bit more clever might realize that Disk Op. System stands for DOS then go back to the original thinking. However, this is less likely as it requires even more knowledge. This is why saying Disk Op. System (DOS) would defeat that purpose.

Justin


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#10
May 11, 2011 at 13:01:55
"If they see Disk Op. System, they won't know what that is and choose a different forum. Now, some people who are a bit more clever might realize that Disk Op. System stands for DOS then go back to the original thinking."

Then maybe it should be renamed to something like "MS-DOS" or "MS/PC-DOS". Those who know what they are doing would realize the correct designations, and it may just throw enough off to realize they would be in the wrong forum. Or perhaps a (large) header at the forum's top should read something like:

"This forum is for MS/PC-DOS (circa 1981-1994). Any other questions (such as those involving Command Prompt) should be posted to a more-appropriate forum"

I can't help but agree with IVO's original concerns, since few of the posts there involve "true DOS" anymore.

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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#11
May 11, 2011 at 13:11:01
Hey,

If everyone wants, I could change the name to MS/PC-DOS. However, I want to say right now, I don't think it'll fix much. I just don't want to get people's hope's up if it doesn't work.

Justin


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#12
May 11, 2011 at 16:24:05
Maybe PC/MS/Free DOS? At least we don't have to contend with Atari, Comodore, Amiga, CP/M.
Edit:
I see Justin has already changed it to MS/PC-DOS.


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#13
May 11, 2011 at 17:42:55
Maybe change it to "No one uses DOS anymore". My thinking is who does? If you don't already no something about computers most likely you do not use it. If you do not use it your question should belong somewhere else. I know stupid idea but just a thought.

Likely


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#14
May 11, 2011 at 19:43:55
Hey,

Yup... I have gone ahead and changed it. Let's see what happens.

Justin


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#15
May 11, 2011 at 20:31:08
"Maybe change it to "No one uses DOS anymore"

Hey, I resemble that remark ;)

Actually, I've now only got one machine (a Toshiba laptop) that has DOS/WfWG3.11 on it that gets any use at all (about once or twice a month). I didn't "give in" to Win9x until almost 2000, but I jumped on the Win7 bandwagon early (...sheds minor tear...)

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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#16
June 3, 2011 at 11:09:06
@Justin

Seeing you already made the change, could we also include DR-DOS; how about DR/PC/MS-DOS?

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