Discuss: Zoom's Jump in Earnings

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June 3, 2020 at 05:04:04
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Hi all,

This week's poll question is about news that Zoom has seen a huge increase in earnings over the last quarter. Discuss here if you have been making use of the video chatting service during these times, and, if you like, the poll results themselves.

Thanks,
Justin


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#1
June 3, 2020 at 09:24:17
I was asked to join a conference call this week using Zoom, but
I'm not particularly interested in installing that kind of software.
Besides, if the others wanted me to turn on my video, I'd have
to put some clothes on first. I might get charged for cleaning up
their keyboards if I didn't.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

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#2
June 3, 2020 at 13:40:04
I have done business meetings on Zoom as well as family meetings and even attended a theater show. I've been an attendee and I've been a host. Now that the early security issues (most notably, Zoom Bombing) have been cleaned up, I'm all in.

I am very familiar with a certain global company that deals with highly personal and confidential data. Their Cyber Security team is headed by and contains individuals who were enticed to leave one of those 3 lettered government agencies and run security for them. They recently added Zoom to their suite of remote computing tools and sanctioned it for both internal and external participants. If they trust it, I trust it.

I like to use virtual backgrounds and have imported a few of my own vacation pictures for that purpose.

Sometimes I'm sitting in the ski lodge atop Mt. Hood in Oregon...

https://i.imgur.com/aXaq7LZ.jpg

...other times I'm waiting for the sun to set over Lake Tahoe.

https://i.imgur.com/lqziilr.jpg

Our family used to Skype, but we have now all switched over to Zoom. So much easier, more stable, more options. Back on Mother's Day we Zoomed with Mom from locations literally across the country - New York City, Denver, Las Vegas, Los Angeles and a few other cities. 9 windows, 14 participants in all. Open an email, click a link, and boom...errr...I mean...Zoom! You're in. Phone, tablet, Mac, PC, one size fits all.

A local theater, which SWMBO and I frequent during normal times, puts on an improv show about once a month. Small place, maybe 100 seats. There's always a theme and the audience gets to yell out "suggestions" for the actors. Last month they did the show over Zoom. The theme was "My Big Fat Corona Virus Wedding". The actors were all social distanced in their own homes, as was of course, the audience. The audience used the Chat feature of Zoom to offer suggestions for the cast. At the last minute, just before the vows were to be spoken, the soon-to-be-married couple both "lost" their internet connection and disappeared from the meeting. (All staged, of course) The "preacher" asked for volunteers from the audience to be stand-ins. The director (or whoever was hosting the meeting) opened up the video for the 2 volunteers, who read the vows supplied via the Chat feature and were then pronounced Man and Wife.

I like Zoom and will continue to use it even after everything opens up and we get back to some semblance of normal.

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#3
June 3, 2020 at 17:03:23
re: "Besides, if the others wanted me to turn on my video, I'd have to put some clothes on first."

That's true about the video, but you, as the participant, don't have to turn it on. While the host can turn off the participant's video if (s)he wants, (s)he only request that the participants turn it on.

I've been in meetings where a participant's internet connection wasn't the greatest, so they just use audio. Everyone else either sees a static picture if the user chooses to add one to their account or, if not, just whatever username the user set up.

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#4
June 4, 2020 at 04:52:54
I am an elected official in my township. We have been using Zoom for our meetings. The board members all use their township laptops but other township employees may log in with a smart phone or even a standard telephone. Zoom is flexible and free to governmental bodies. I too use a virtual back ground.

Correction, Zoom is only free if your meetings last less than 45 minutes. The Education community have unlimited free access. Our township pays a minimal license fee.

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#5
June 4, 2020 at 08:04:49
Here is a comparison chart that some may find useful:

https://videoconferencing.guide/

MIKE

http://www.skeptic.com/


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#6
June 4, 2020 at 08:08:49
That is quite a list... I had no idea there were so many of them.

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#7
June 5, 2020 at 05:51:29
I wish that list had a column that discussed security. I'm sure that some are more secure than others which may explain why companies and individuals seem to have settled on just a few.

You may recall that Zoom was very popular at first, then was dropped by many companies and government agencies, then rebounded sharply when they fixed their security issues.


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#8
June 5, 2020 at 09:38:17
I wish that list had a column that discussed security

Look at the column headed End-to-end encryption

From WIki:
"End-to-end encryption is a system of communication where only the communicating users can read the messages."

From what little I know, most of these systems use an intermediate server between users, so somplace out there your meeting is being recorded and probably stored.

MIKE

http://www.skeptic.com/


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#9
June 5, 2020 at 10:03:35
Google-land simply love to garner and record anything it can...

Whether or not the encryption is truly secure... who knows. Who knows what agreements exist covertly between the web outfits and security agencies various regarding encryption keys and an individual’s data. Let alone what a determined hacker might manage too...

Still a lot to be said for two tin cans and a length of string; or a Quipu system of messaging?


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#10
June 5, 2020 at 16:13:51
"Still a lot to be said for two tin cans and a length of string; or a Quipu system of messaging?"

Kinda miss Carrier Pigeons myself....

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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#11
June 5, 2020 at 16:42:08
Smoke signals are more inclusive.
Everybody can see what your saying
and can even join in if they have enough firewood.

MIKE

http://www.skeptic.com/


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#12
June 5, 2020 at 18:11:01
re: From WIki: "End-to-end encryption is a system of communication where only the communicating users can read the messages."

Well, technically, those early Zoom Bombers became "communicating users" as soon as they bombed the Zoom meeting. Therefore, they were within the "cone of silence" so to speak. i.e. within the encrypted space.

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#13
June 5, 2020 at 22:28:40
Ah yes... that famous privacy system favoured by the stalwart hero of days gone by - good olde Maxwell Smart... That was really quite a series; and a bit like Dick Tracy from even earlier with his wrist radio (precursor to Star Trek’s communicator and then the flip phone...). Gadgets which evolved from fiction to fact.

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#14
June 8, 2020 at 20:12:24
I take it that installing Zoom is a two-step process. First you
download the Zoom installer, then you run the installer which
downloads the program from the Internet and installs it.

Is that correct?

I'm just guessing why the install failed because I never, ever,
ever install a program while the computer is connected to the
Internet.

If my guess is right, why do they do it that way?

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#15
June 9, 2020 at 12:38:14
re: "I'm just guessing why the install failed because I never..."

Did I miss the post where someone's install failed?

re: "If my guess is right, why do they do it that way?"

Perhaps to ensure that the user gets the latest and greatest version. I, for one, hate it when I download a program, install it and then immediately get told that "There is a newer version available, would you like to download it?"

If the install executable has the ability to find the latest version for use at the initial install or installs whatever version was downloaded, then checks for and downloads all upgrades/patches, then it's a more efficient process. And if there's a security patch that they really, really want you to have, blocking the install of the vulnerable version is for the good of all.

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#16
June 9, 2020 at 14:42:01
> Did I miss the post where someone's install failed?

No, that happened between my previous post, when I said
I had been invited to a Zoom meeting, and my post yesterday
evening, after I decided to put some clothes on. Just in case
the camera failed to not work. I have it disabled, and couldn't
get it to work when it wasn't disabled, but you can never be
too careful when using your computer in the bedroom.

Edit to add:

Forgot to mention the bit of 3M Post-it Note over the lens.
How could I forget that?

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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