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Discuss: Windows 8.1 Start Button

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October 4, 2013 at 04:03:47
Specs: Windows 7, 1.4 GHz / 5610 MB
Hi all,

This week's poll question is about the new implementation of the Start Button in Windows 8.1. Discuss here if you think this is enough to satisfy user complaints, and, if you like, the poll results themselves.


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October 4, 2013 at 04:42:38
If it only works in the way shown in the ad then it looks like a complete let-down, just a button to get back to the Metro UI from the desktop so the biggest waste of time out. From what was originally mooted I thought it would be a variation on the Win-X combination so I, for one am sorely disappointed.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us..." Pink Floyd

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October 4, 2013 at 08:57:29
I'm currently using XP pro but will be using W8.1 next month (Nov). I understand there are 3rd party alternatives and also W8.1 that address this problem. But what exactly is the issue about the start button? Is it just about convenience or will I be losing some sort of ability to configure, monitor, launch, etc...? I know this may sound laughable or naive, but I went from Win98('98) to XP('05) and now to W8.1 and just don't know what I'm getting into. A tell-all response or link to an article/post would be appreciated.


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October 4, 2013 at 12:18:13

IMO the big deal is that Microsoft seems to think that you should have to learn a new set of procedures with each new version of Windows. If they wanted to have an OS designed strictly for touch screens then Windows 8 might be OK. The issue is most units being sold with 8 pre-installed are not touch screen capable.

I am running Windows 7 and still use the classic view.

Why should you have to resort to any third party apps to make Windows function smoothly?

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October 4, 2013 at 14:42:01
Why should you have to resort to any third party apps to make Windows function smoothly?

Amen that.

If I were buying a PC today, I'd order it with Windows 7, not 8. Don't forget, Windows 7 is still being sold.

I'm reminded of buying a laptop for my wife a couple months after vista released and was the default OS on all new purchases. I contacted the vendor and told them I wanted XP Pro installed, not vista. They told me "no problem" and a few days later received our new laptop with XP Pro on it.

Truth be told, if it comes to a laptop or PC, I wouldn't want a touch screen and complimentary OS in any case. I'd be constantly having to clean fingerprints off my &*$%^% monitor just to see what I'm doing. I watch my wife with her iPad and she's constantly cleaning thank you!

It matters not how straight the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

***William Henley***

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October 4, 2013 at 15:43:46
I personally haven't found metro to be the only problem with Windows 8... I used Windows 8 on my Dell Latitude E6400 (designed for 7 originally) for a few months, and it never worked right for me. There were constant problems with the audio driver and if I set the brightness too low the entire backlight would turn off on my laptop display.... Thanks, but no thanks, I'll stick with 7.

You've been helped by a 15 year old.

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October 4, 2013 at 16:32:46
I don't doubt the particular experience had by RMT2 (#5) but those issues do not appear to be widespread and certainly my Win8 has been quite trouble free - very fast and reliable in fact. Like most new OS's it probably works best on current hardware.

As far as the "Old style Start Menu" -v- "Metro" is concerned I can imagine some of our traditional PC posters finding the changes rather sweeping if they don't know much about folders, files, locations and shortcuts. Not so for our average helper on here because that is all you need to know to set up the desktop to access and run things just the way you always did. I don't miss the old start menu one bit. I admit I'm not an avid Metro fan but I do find it quite handy at times - might have used it a lot more if I had a touch screen (yuk). Some of the new keyboard shortcuts are very useful too.

Hopefully 8.1 update will not clash what I now have and mean I've got to start messing around with it again to make it work the way I like. Having said that I've done the same ever since Windows 95. I don't see a computer as something like a calculator that you unbox and are then stuck forever with the same 24 buttons as everyone else.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks

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October 4, 2013 at 17:49:19
This post has a bit more info on Win 8.1:

Personally I don't mind the Metro interface, all I do is click on the "Desktop" icon and work from there. If I need any of the applications I right click on the extreme bottom left hand corner where the Metro icon is located and all the additional applications I need pop up... just like Win 7 with no mucking around!

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October 9, 2013 at 10:53:09

"On the other hand, if you’re still on Windows 7 and need a compelling reason to upgrade, there’s nothing new in Windows 8.1 (in my opinion) that justifies the considerable effort required to switch"

I expected as much.

My new (1 year old) PC has a 250 GB solid state drive as C: with the OS on it. I threw a 2 TB drive on as D: for storage and it's also where I install everything that's not a game.

My Windows 7 boots up incredibly fast on the SSD and I've been real happy with the combination of hardware and Windows 7.

As previously stated, I have no interest in Windows 8 and will likely never use least not, as it comes out of the box today. I suspect at some point in the future MS will release a version where you simply set it to "Windows 7 View" and it'll get rid of the pad/smartphone interface altogether and let us computer geeks drive it the way we want it.

One can hope anyways. All I do know is I got the better part of a decade of use out of XP Pro on my old PC, which is still running it and doing other things now that it's no longer my main PC. I expect to get at least the same amount of mileage out of 7 before it becomes necessary to upgrade all my hardware. Heck, if I give up gaming, I may never need to upgrade...

It matters not how straight the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

***William Henley***

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