Discuss: Windows 8 Leaks

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May 13, 2011 at 06:03:47
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Hi all,

This week's poll question is about news that Microsoft has fired two employees for leaking Windows 8. Discuss here if you think leaks are a major problem in the software industry, and, if you like, the poll results themselves.


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May 13, 2011 at 06:10:29
Leaks are very bad for the company, depending on what is leaked.

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May 13, 2011 at 06:16:18
Over the years I have grown to ignore all that hyperbole. When the final OS is released it is usually something a lot different than what was leaked or speculated on. I really think this is done as a way to gauge consumer desires for certain features.

On another note, I can't understand why an employee would risk their job by doing that. What is the bigger cause here?

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May 13, 2011 at 12:57:20
"When the final OS is released it is usually something a lot different than what was leaked or speculated on. I really think this is done as a way to gauge consumer desires for certain features."

Agreed. But I also think Microsoft wants too keep it's name in the forefront, especially since competition from other OS's on various platforms is "slimming down" the 800 lb. gorilla. Dumping 2 employees is a small price for some media attention (unless you're one of the 2).

"On another note, I can't understand why an employee would risk their job by doing that. What is the bigger cause here?"

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May 13, 2011 at 13:57:06

If MS wanted the information leaked they would have done it themselves. IMO I think that Microsoft wants to market ONLY the current version. They do not want folks waiting around for the new improved version. Look haw hard they worked to get folks to migrate to Vista. Then of course after the massive issues with compatibility with Vista they made Windows 7 more likely to be compatible with older hardware and software. Even going to the lengths of supplying drivers if necessary.

At some point they want to ramp up interest in Windows 8 but I don't think now is that time.

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May 15, 2011 at 10:11:16
I can't imagine Microsoft, pretty much the uncontested ruler of PC OSes, need the hype you're talking about, especially since their ad campaign could literally be, "Windows: You may not like us, but you're running us."

The Windows team got burned with Vista; they talked a lot, and had to scale back a lot. (Vista was in development while Microsoft was pushing blogs, open discussion, and whatnot.) Some of the discussed technology found its way into Win7, and the rest appear to be abandoned.

So they took a break out of Apple's book, and carefully controlled the flow of information. With Win7, they were comparatively quiet, promised nothing, and basically delivered Vista with the bloat scaled back. Add in driver makers not releasing early Beta drivers in lieu of release quality drivers, and you end up with a quality product people were willing to pay for. Did the silent treatment help Windows 7? I don't know, but it didn't hurt.

Now, for the real question: If Microsoft caught two employees releasing current, fully functional builds of Windows 7 to the public, instead of builds of an unreleased version, would anyone care?

tl;dr: I ramble on about nothing, then ask why is this firing considered news.

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May 16, 2011 at 22:59:18
Did they leak? Do they leak? Will they leak more? There is military information leaked all the time. Sometimes this gets people killed not much is really done about that and no one seems to really care. If a leak has caused MS to lose a buck or two I really don't give a ----!


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May 18, 2011 at 13:16:51
When my 8 Windows leaked, I replaced them. It was fun project.

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May 19, 2011 at 03:59:00
MS didn't send out a technician or offer up an update that would repair your leaky windows there Derby??? Well I guess if ya want support ya gotta do it yourself. Please make sure the new ones don't leak. I doubt MS would care but it may cost you a few bucks.


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May 19, 2011 at 05:39:07
The only time my new windows leak is when someone in my family says:

"Nice day...I think I'll open the windows."

followed a few hours later by:

"Cool night...I think I'll turn the heat on."

I can't seem to convince them that windows lose some of their efficiency when they're open.

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May 19, 2011 at 05:52:46
Back to the serious question at hand.

Microsoft evidently felt they had to scare all their employees. I am not sure this will necessarily work but I do understand. Could all be a ruse too.

If I were Microsoft, I would want the public to critique Windows 8 early in the process to get vital, off the cuff feedback. If Windows 8 doesn't stand out from Vista and Windows 7, people will not upgrade. Microsoft needs the cash flow to pay the cost of maintaining everything still under support agreements.

Myself, I think this endless loop does not work. I am probably in the minority but I don't care about eye candy. I do care about features. IMO MS should be concentrating on features that make it easier for the average user to maintain their computer.

The entire industry should be pushing the concept of backups. Microsoft has made this easier in Windows 7 but most users don't even know it is there or that they should use it. They think an external hard drive is so they can download and save more s**t. Most users listen to Microsoft over other sources so they should be taking point on this issue. The hardware manufacturers have mostly remained silent on this issue.

Recovering personal files is one of the most common issues we help with here at CN. Yet users for the most part have not made any attempt at keeping backups.

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May 19, 2011 at 21:57:17
I know my opionion doesn't really mean much because I don't have the kind of experience many of you folks do either with computers in general or in properly attemtempting to get my ideas across but here goes. I agree with OTH that the industry in general should be doing something in the way of helping or persueding the average user to either create good backups or store important data outside of their computers. It just simply isn't working that those of us that volunteer to help on these forums keep beating this drum so to speak. My brother is a great example. After about the third time I had spent hours trying to recover stuff on his computer after he did something silly I bought him a 500gb external drive to back up everything to and worked him out a schedule to do so. Two months later I had to do it all over again because a friend gave him a car stereo with a usb connection for an ipod type device so he loaded that external drive with music and through it in his glove box. In my own little wanna be repair business here at home I do at least two recoveries of some sort a month now. Most times I tell the client I am not sure I can but I'll try. If I actually can they are so greatfull. A few I have done so many times now what I have charged them would have more than payed for very expensive backup devices.

On another note again with my lack of overall experience I have not dealt directly with the implementation of a new operating system. The only one I have really looked at ahead of time was Win 7. I don't know how this process is usually done I just assumed MS would say they were going to put out a new OS and then eventually do it. I really liked the idea of the RC for win 7. Had it not been for that I would not have been willing to switch to it from XP. When it comes to Win 8 unless I am given the same upfront usage to see if I want it or if it is any different than 7 then I don't see myself paying for it in the future. From what I have read about it so far which isn't really that much it would be of no use to me anyway.


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May 19, 2011 at 22:07:12
@ Derby I have the same problem here with open windows, lights left on, and televisions left on in empty rooms. I bet if I put a television in my garage where the kids don't go, I would get up tomorrow to find it on and all the lights in there turned on.


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March 7, 2012 at 01:17:25
Yes I agreed with this Microsoft have done right because a lot of privacies of company in which company stands, that's why leakage is not a good habit in the company's employees.

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