Discuss: Unconnected Americans

August 13, 2010 at 05:45:41
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Hi all,

This week's poll question is about a recent study that showed 21% of all Americans don't use the Internet. Discuss here if you know anyone who doesn't use the Internet, and, if you like, the poll results themselves.

Thanks!
Justin


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#1
August 13, 2010 at 06:03:27
They are mostly (1) the Amish, (2) those living in rural America with no broadband access, and (3) the over two millions of us Americans locked up in prisons and jails. Don't fret, the number of Unconnected Americans is getting smaller & smaller according to THIS statistic.

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#2
August 13, 2010 at 06:21:37
LOL @ the Amish. I know some people who don't use the internet & they certainly aren't Amish nor are they in jail. In fact, 3 of them are retired NYC cops & one is a retired accountant. Two of the cops don't even have cell phones.

If we are going to count inmates as "unconnected" to the internet, then they also should be counted as unemployed & added to that statistic also.

The internet is not for everyone & I don't push people to get it, except for one of the retired cops, who keeps asking for someone to search Google for him.

How do you know when a politician is lying? His mouth is moving.


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#3
August 13, 2010 at 07:19:29
If we are going to count inmates as "unconnected" to the internet, then they also should be counted as unemployed & added to that statistic also.

I'd wager if you looked, you'd find there are computers in a lot of jails that actually do provide internet access to inmates. Likely it'll be beside the TV room with the big flat screen and DVD player, or beside the game room with the pool table and pinball machines........

I think we'll find the majority of people not on the internet are people our age (middle aged) or older. I don't know of any young kid who could survive a while hour without internet, a fancy cell phone that browses and all their requisite electronic toys.....lol

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How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

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#4
August 13, 2010 at 08:30:31
My neighbour who lives in the apartment below me and about the same age as me, lets just say the wrong side of 60, doesn't have internet and has no intention of getting it. Doesn't even posses a mobile phone as far as I can gather. I imagine there are many more like him.

My sister who is ten years younger than me only succumbed to the pressure a couple of years ago during which time I have had one Email from her.

Stuart


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#5
August 13, 2010 at 09:44:10
I worked in a maximum security prison for a few years. Yes they did have the internet. No it was not near any game room or tv room. It was next to the library. They had to have special permission to get online. The topics they could search were limited. There were 18 computers and 2100 inmates. In the computer room were 4 corrections officers. 2 Patroling and 2 on computers viewing what was being seen by the inmates. From those 2 computers we could simply shut them down if we felt they were viewing inappropriate content. Not many took the chance. According to the state 78 percent of them are actually employed. The other 22 percent just don't count because the unemployed do not count as unemployed only those getting or applying for unemployment do. I walked away from a job and reported them to the state for fraud. The state closed their doors and filed charges against the owners. According to the unemployment office I am not eligable because I chose to quit had I waited and been arrested with the rest then I could have gotten unemployment.

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#6
August 13, 2010 at 09:50:46
I worked in a maximum security prison

Perhaps that's why they didn't have a game/TV room. I have several friends who work as prison guards up here in Canada and the one fellow works in a minimum security prison and they have all the above and not just a pool table, but also fooseball, a couple pinball machines and a gaming console.

It matters not how straight the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

***William Henley***


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#7
August 13, 2010 at 13:09:08
My 88 year old grandmother doesn't use the internet. She enjoys watching the occasional funny YouTube video with us at my place, but doesn't want "the beast" in her own home.

She's a proud Canadian.

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#8
August 13, 2010 at 16:45:22
I know a retired GM engineer that must have used the internet and computers at work but doesn't have a computer. He is involved in local politics and they must keep him updated by snail mail. Probably on the shy side of 60.

Had another woman on the local Economic Development Corporation that also had no internet or computer. Probably 55 years old.


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#9
August 13, 2010 at 17:08:24
Jackbomb

If your grandmother enjoys funny videos on you tube she will love this one. Got to be the funniest video on the Internet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSSG...

Stuart


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#10
August 14, 2010 at 13:43:13
Thanks, Stuart. Bookmarked. Will show it to Grandma when she has the courage to visit me again. :-)

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#11
August 16, 2010 at 10:38:48
I was going to go to work at a place here in Fl that was basically a halfway house. The inmates for the most part could come and go as they please just had to be in at night. I turned the job down because they labled us as guards but the only power we had was to keep logs. Plus the pay was horrible. If say an inmate chose to smoke in an area where it is not allowed we could not stop him. Just log the event and give him or her a warning. While I was there for my closing interview two of them just walked off. They yelled a few words and stated they were leaving. The fella in charge told me all they could do was wait until bed check if they were not back then he would let law enforcement know. There were only about 40 inmates there and they had all sorts of things including computer access. From what I saw the several times I was there though most of them left every morning and did not return until late. Many did have jobs they went to. I was told if I worked the day shift I may have had maybe 6 there with me. Beats the heck out of the 117 I had with me by myself on my range at the real prison.

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#12
August 16, 2010 at 11:34:20
Hardrocker

Interesting story but what does it have to do with folks that don't use the internet? Or are you commenting on #2 above?


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#13
August 16, 2010 at 23:22:31
#2 and expanding on #5. They are given acess but from what I saw didn't use it.

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#14
August 17, 2010 at 20:16:28
I'd say the vast majority (in addition to the Amish, incarcerated, rural, and rurally incarcerated Amish) are those over the age of 70. My grandmothers are both in their 90s, and we finally convinced one of them to get email. She certainly wouldn't have without our nudging - and buying her a computer and internet service.

I'd be interested to see the answer to the question, "Do you know any unincarcerated, non-Amish people under the age of 60 who don't use the internet?..."


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#15
August 18, 2010 at 00:51:57
Actually yes I do. My wifes uncle is 57 and swears that the internet is just another way for big brother to keep tabs on us. Hmmmmm must be a family thing the wifes father is the same way about computers, banks, and cable television.

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