Discuss: Major Windows 10 Update

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November 12, 2015 at 17:05:29
Specs: Windows 7, 1.4 GHz / 5610 MB
Hi all,

This week's poll question is about news that Microsoft is releasing the first major update to Windows 10. Discuss here if you think their plan to get Windows 7 users to upgrade will succeed, and, if you like, the poll results themselves.

Thanks,
Justin


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#1
November 12, 2015 at 18:19:09
I think they will get plenty of takers - making it free is irresistible to most.

My netbook update failed miserably so it can wait until some more bugs are fixed. This one is Win 8.1 and I'm very happy with it. Don't want to upgrade until I'm sure it won't wreck it - maybe later.

Not everything about W10 is good but most folk have thrown privacy to the wind with clouds, facebook, twitter and the like, so that angle won't bother many of them.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#2
November 12, 2015 at 18:34:43
Some of the earlier comments I read in the computer press seemed to imply/suggest that M$ had enabled (by default and in effect made it compulsory) their right to snoop around any given computer hard drive running Windows-10. Much as they did (apparently) in Vista and no-one was aware of it; until M$ got caught and disabled that routine...?

If M$ is in effect snooping around one's computer, noting what's installed etc., whence it came, and who knows what else... perhaps they ought to discontinue that to start with?

That "would" be a major update... and one that "might" encourage some of us to consider Win-10 anon...

I have a very strong aversion to 'anyone" snooping about, monitoring what I have on my hard drive, where I may go on the web...


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#3
November 12, 2015 at 19:40:06
Maybe the question should be is MS no longer capable of producing an operating system with the broad appeal that much earlier versions enjoyed?

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#4
November 12, 2015 at 21:12:09
MS is changing it's business model from software seller to service seller, just like Apple, Google and others do.

In extremis; They give you a platform for free and if you want to run something on it you pay a fee one-time or recursive.
Yes there are still some free apps today. But any serious software package is not free.

The same way the printer business works today; The printer basic hardware is cheap, but to keep it running you pay a hefty price on the consumables.


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#5
November 12, 2015 at 23:20:39
Windows users have always been a pretty conservative lot - just look at the number of people still using the obsolete XP. Windows 10 already has a greater market share than all versions of OS X put together, so I don't think that Microsoft need to worry.

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#6
November 13, 2015 at 00:35:43
Microsoft may not need to worry but that doesn't necessarily speak to the popularity of their products. With all due respect to Mac OS, price, availability of PCs using their product and just the momentum of being # 1 often makes MS the 'only game in town'.

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#7
November 13, 2015 at 01:32:24
Can anyone give links to web pages (or write something here)
that gives me any good reasons to update from Windows 7 ?

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#8
November 13, 2015 at 04:19:45
Not me Jeff,

Perfectly happy with 7.

I can manipulate the OS exactly to suit my needs.

In all honesty once 7 becomes unsupported I will make my primary OS Linux based. MS quite simply aren't going in the direction I would have hoped. I don't like the walled approach.


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#9
November 13, 2015 at 04:44:09
I use a Windows phone. Worth upgrading from 7 for the superb integration between phone and desktop. Also very good if you use more than one machine.

With a single computer I couldn't give a single compelling reason; but if I always followed that train of thought I'd still be using 95.


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#10
November 13, 2015 at 06:27:30
why not still use dos.... ; very low overheads...?

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#11
November 13, 2015 at 07:25:23
DOS definitely wouldn't talk to my phone. We are living in a connected world where PCs, tablets, phones, and even the Internet of Things need to be interconnected. This is where Microsoft have so much better a vision with Windows 10 than Apple with their diverse offerings - one OS to rule them all.

Look at the newly announced iPad Pro and Surface 4. One is just a big tablet that doesn't really blend in with the desktop line and can only run mobile apps; the other is a PC disguised as a tablet, that can take on both roles. Microsoft are certainly ahead of the game here.


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#12
November 13, 2015 at 08:11:00
Agree re' the iOS limitations compared to the MS approach... Possibly Apple-land will for once take a leaf out of MS's book, and create kit and an OS that mimics the current MS approach

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#13
November 13, 2015 at 09:15:37
Browsing the thread I realized what since a long time I supposed, a sad thing in my opinion: Microsoft's systems vision is tilting toward Apple's model, i.e. closed software environments, easy to run and enjoy that however you can not personalize as you and only you like. Eventually Steve Jobs is the winner of the game..

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#14
November 13, 2015 at 13:26:00
Completely wrong IMO. It is as easy as ever to customize and personalize Windows. And it is getting more and more open, with easy access to free development tools.

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#15
November 14, 2015 at 04:55:16
Hi, I was given to understand this week that Windows 10 will not be FREE after a year, as updates will be charged for.

I do not recall this being generally publicised when MS were promoting Windows 10 being free to download.

Quite possibly it could be unwise *NOT* to update for reasons of security etc.

Now seems that updating to W10 could be similar to issuing a blank cheque!

Good Luck - Keep ud posted.


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#16
November 14, 2015 at 05:59:29
I've read a few of the reports also.

They're conflicting. Whilst some say the upgrade is free (which we know albeit for a limited time frame) the updates in the future will come at a cost. Others say revenue will be raised through a modelled App Store repository.

Either way it appears MS is leaning towards a walled approach, where either the user pays in one form or another or developers pay to have their software promoted through through their own store.

Nothing is free these days and it appears a lot of MS die hards are accepting it.


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#17
November 14, 2015 at 07:22:13
Mike

As I understand it the upgrade to Win 10 will not be free after one year from its inception. I've seen nothing about general Windows security updates having to be paid for after that time. If you've seen something to that effect please give us a link.

I'll probably be proved wrong but wonder if even the upgrade having to be paid for is an MS ruse to get us on the waggon. After all, MS said that both MSE and the MSR tool would not longer be updated for XP but mine are still coming through on that machine. Keeping the Win 10 update free would surely bring more stragglers into the fold, and increase their control.

EDIT:
Found this:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks

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#18
November 14, 2015 at 11:06:40
Mike - I suggest you read THIS and be assured that you would not have to ever worry about future Windows 10 Updates requiring a Subscription. Still unconvinced? Read THIS, too,

i_Xp/Vista/W7/W10 User

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#19
November 14, 2015 at 14:10:16
Yes, there is absolutely no reason for Microsoft to start charging a subscription fee for Windows. That would be going in completely the opposite direction to current trends and would be counter-productive.

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#20
November 15, 2015 at 17:33:17
As a windows user, I like that windows 10 is being offered as a free upgrade. And I will be updating to windows 10 soon on all my machines. However, I will feel cheated, if after the one year free upgrade period has expired I find myself with an OS that now requires me to pay a subscription to continue using it. And I will then revert back to my previous OS. I understand that Microsoft is a business and they must make money somehow. But, if a subscription service to run an operating system is their solution, then I look forward to seeing the company that steps forward with a new operating system which does not market razors & blades.

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#21
November 15, 2015 at 18:44:42
Re #12.

Yes but that's the point. It seems folk saw "service" then assumed "subscription" and then "money for updates". It looks like it was due to bad wording from MS, see the link in #17 and the two links in #18.

Even if, despite the above, this should happen I think it would be directed at significant improvements to the system rather the security updates. Not much different to the past really.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#22
November 16, 2015 at 08:03:40
None of these arguments have convinced me.

I'm sticking with 7 for as long as it's supported by MS.

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#23
November 16, 2015 at 21:56:07
No problem - It's your choice. By the way MS will stop supporting Windows 7 in 2020.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/...

i_Xp/Vista/W7/W10 User


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