Discuss: Longer Range Nissan Leaf

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January 10, 2019 at 05:59:54
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Hi all,

This week's poll question is about news that Nissan has announced a Leaf with over a 200 mile range. Discuss here if you think this longer-range will make a big difference in sales, and, if you like, the poll results themselves.

Thanks,
Justin


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#1
January 10, 2019 at 06:19:26
I still have a problem with the charging time, and lack of infrastructure, of pure electric cars. I did seriously consider one when I bought a car recently, but plumped for a hybrid as the best compromise. (Also, I need the storage capacity of an estate car, which is lacking in pure EVs.)

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#2
January 10, 2019 at 13:40:07
Until battery technology evolves to match that of a given petrol engined vehicle’s mileage/tank, hybrid is likely the better option?

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#3
January 10, 2019 at 14:25:03
If Nissan has added battery capacity then the battery pack is probably heavier so performance and handling will be affected. In addition to that, the eventual replacement/rebuilding of the battery will be more expensive.

IMO the place for battery powered vehicles is golf carts and zero emission situations, like inside buildings which may use battery fork lifts, for example.


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#4
January 10, 2019 at 15:42:06
In some parts of the country (like where I live), electric vehicles make absolutely no sense. I need a vehicle that can traverse through (occasionally) 2+ feet of snow, survive sub-zero temps, travel 80+ miles a day to and from work, and keep me reasonably comfortable (seeing that I just turned 59 y.o. today). A conventional (gas or diesel) 4x4 is the only thing that meets these needs....which is what I purchased 4 months ago.

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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#5
January 10, 2019 at 20:33:46
Happy Birthday Bro.

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#6
January 10, 2019 at 22:09:37
"Happy Birthday Bro."

Thanks OtH!

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#7
January 11, 2019 at 04:55:16
LOL what does this discussion have to with computers at all just my thoughts.

Davidw


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#8
January 11, 2019 at 05:06:27
Justin uses this subject line - discuss various topics - as a general subject with some serious intents (I’m presuming that); and often it elicits a degree of humour and occasionally brings out some very useful info too.

For example, I didn’t realise that TRA regularly has to deal with snow; living where does in the Altiplano, where it is generally sunny and dry...?

But then Las Vegas (valley floor area at least) although in the middle of the desert gets snow occasionally... A couple of years or so back it got a few inches over Christmas (I think it was then); caused minor chaos... While up nearby Mount Charleston of course it's like Switzerland in the winter...; and generally (exceptions as above) like a typical UK summer at best then. In the UK a few inches of snow and the world comes to an end...

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#9
January 11, 2019 at 05:52:04
#7 You clearly don't appreciate how many computers there are in modern cars, particularly EVs.

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#10
January 11, 2019 at 09:52:49
DavidW

If you look at the top line of tabs on your screen you will see a tab for "off topic" Clicking on that tab shows a drop down list. The first item on the list is "The Lounge". So yes, this thread has nothing to do with computers other than your mention of them.


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#11
January 11, 2019 at 17:18:42
"didn’t realise that TRA regularly has to deal with snow; living where does in the Altiplano, where it is generally sunny and dry...?"

LOL....

It's not common here, but we did have about 22 inches on the ground a month ago. A typical snow runs about 3-6 inches, but the "Storm of the Century" (Blizzard of 1993) dumped a hefty 39 inches (and >10 foot drifts) with -15ºF temps and 50+MPH wind gusts... I suspect an electric vehicle would be less than useless in such conditions.

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

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#12
January 12, 2019 at 00:04:17
The main problem would be the reduced efficiency of the battery and the increased power consumption because of lights and heaters. Otherwise, EVs are very good in slippery conditions because of the smooth, gradual delivery of power to the wheels.

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#13
January 12, 2019 at 05:32:43
This wasn't under off topic it was just under general. but i'll go back to my corner.And get educated

Davidw


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#14
January 12, 2019 at 05:45:24
"Otherwise, EVs are very good in slippery conditions because of the smooth, gradual delivery of power to the wheels."

But again, I'm not talking "slippery conditions". I'm talking "snow-up-to-your-knees", "colder-than-sh*t", "blow-you-around-like-a-pinwheel" conditions. For locales such as California, Florida, lower Texas, I'm sure they'd be fine. But to think anything available would be useful in Winter here, nope. A few folks around here have a Prius or some other Hybrid (generally summer people from Florida), but year-round residents know the old saying: "If you don't have a four-wheel-drive, you could go hungry from October til April".

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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#15
January 12, 2019 at 07:10:34
In pictures:

http://oi67.tinypic.com/r2tfva.jpg
http://oi66.tinypic.com/2cosysl.jpg
http://oi65.tinypic.com/20h7rkl.jpg
http://oi64.tinypic.com/33zbj4i.jpg
http://oi66.tinypic.com/2hzlkpj.jpg
http://oi67.tinypic.com/futkdd.jpg

Now, someone please tell me of a reasonably priced (<$30K) hybrid or EV that can get out of that.

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

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#16
January 12, 2019 at 07:11:49
Exactly where in the Arctic are you living TRA? Or have you removed to the sunnier climes just north of the 49th Parallel?

For those history buphs, this might be interest...

https://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-...

When I was living in Montreal and Ottawa a 4 wheel drive - although not that common in the city then (unlike today) - was definitely an advantage in many a winter; still is when they get a real dumping... And out in the sticks (where some of us lived an alternative life style....) it was essential; although very few actually had one. Most made do with chains and/or snow tires...


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#17
January 12, 2019 at 07:17:55
"Exactly where in the Arctic are you living TRA?"

To be precise (and you can see the forecast for the next few days):

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapCli...

Yes, this is life in western North Carolina.

http://wataugaonline.com/blizzard-1...

My point in all this isn't to hijack the thread to discuss "The Perils of T-R-A", just to point out that while many people talk of the validity of electric vehicles or hybrids, there's simply little thought put into the practicality of such...

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

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#18
January 12, 2019 at 10:11:23
Of course a Prius isn't going to behave as well in such conditions as a 4x4 SUV, but that's nothing to do with the fact that it's a hybrid. A VW Golf would be no better. You can't compare a family saloon to an SUV.

There are plenty of 4x4 hybrids from the likes of Range Rover, BMW, Lexus, Toyota, etc. These are the vehicles that you should compare to your conventional 4x4s.


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#19
January 12, 2019 at 10:37:10
Davidw

"This wasn't under off topic it was just under general"

In the interest of education I would point out that on the right side of this screen there are 2 columns of forum topics. The only way you arrived at this forum, that I know of, was to click on "The Lounge" .

Try hovering your cursor over each of the buttons at the top of this screen. The only button that yields a link to the "Lounge" is the "off Topic" button. I am by no means trying to embarrass you, simply pointing out how the site works.

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