Discuss: Internet and Peace

March 12, 2010 at 07:30:16
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Hi all,

This week's poll question is about the news that the Internet has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. Discuss here what you think of this concept, and, if you like, the poll results themselves.

Thanks!
Justin


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#1
March 12, 2010 at 09:32:43
First I've heard of it and my immediate thought was, "shouldn't telephones and TV's be nominated before the internet, they've been here longer." They both span the globe and make the world as we know it 'smaller' too.

Personally, I think it's a silly idea.

How many terrorists and other people have used the internet for evil purposes?

If it was used for strictly peaceful purposes then fine. But when one considers how it's been used by terrorists, pornographers, child molesters, etc etc etc etc........well, you get my point.

That's just my 2 cents..............


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#2
March 12, 2010 at 09:39:40
Who would collect the prize money of 10,000,000 Swedish Kroner?

Would anyone that owns a domain name get a piece of it?

Where do I send my info so they can send me my portion?


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#3
March 12, 2010 at 09:50:53
"Who would collect the prize money of 10,000,000 Swedish Kroner?"

Al Gore?


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#4
March 12, 2010 at 13:00:39
Yes, I want my cut, I have my own domain name. Probably get about 5 cents.

I agree with Curt, its a silly idea,

Who would get the money?

There is no one organisation that can claim to have complete control of the Internet, it is just a lose conglomeration of organisations, hopefully with a common objective. Who decides who gets what?

Stuart


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#5
March 12, 2010 at 13:55:39
Google should collect the bounty. They taught & are still teaching people how to the use the world wide warp wait.

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#6
March 12, 2010 at 14:12:18
When you ask the average person from my generation about the internet the first thing that comes to our minds is either porn or sick (place dirty word here) out to hurt children. So I guess it really doesn't take much to be nominated. I used to think this award ment something special, apparently I was wrong. Now all those that have won in the past should be just known as the best of the garbage we could throw together. Not to mention I totally fail to see how the internet on it's own merrit has improved anyones lives, with the exception of those that took advantage early on and got rich doing it.

Yeah the internet can be used for great things however without the growth of personal computers in the home it would be nothing more than an electronic library on a small network. Yes every business now uses computers and the net but that didn't and I don't believe would have happened without the personal computer becoming popular for home users.

The fact that someone would reach to make this nomination tells me this world has truly become a sad place. I would have nominated Manson first!!

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I want to go like my grandfather did. Peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming at the top of my lungs like the passengers in his car.

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#7
March 13, 2010 at 10:28:14
"When you ask the average person from my generation about the internet the first thing that comes to our minds is either porn or sick (place dirty word here) out to hurt children."

I completely disagree with you, unless the generation you speak of comprises exclusively of unemployed lowlife individuals who use the internet strictly for pornographic purposes & I'm not aware of such a monolithic generation. The internet is one of the greatest inventions of all time with transcendent benefits, to allude to it as just some conduit for pervasive content is myopic & disingenuous. I'll give a microscopic example: A lot of regulars here spend a good deal of their personal time on this website & it isn't a site with any adult-content or pervasive exchanges ... I don't think the internet is big enough to document its own merits ... the internet is big deal. Now, this is not to pretend that the creeps you profiled do not exist; we all know they do. One thing to remember is, they did exist before the internet & will if the internet were to become extinct at some point. My point is: they only take up a minority of the overall internet meter & you can't use that barometer to evaluate internet proliferation.

"So I guess it really doesn't take much to be nominated. I used to think this award ment something special, apparently I was wrong. Now all those that have won in the past should be just known as the best of the garbage we could throw together. Not to mention I totally fail to see how the internet on it's own merrit has improved anyones lives, with the exception of those that took advantage early on and got rich doing it."

I can agree with you on this one, the awards have been drawing a lot of controversies lately putting the credibility of the Nobel committee in question. Personally, I don't know if the internet deserves the award as an entity, but the internet sure has improved peoples lives, just like the automobile & plumbing have ... we use these things everyday & our quality of life is intertwined with them.

"Yeah the internet can be used for great things however without the growth of personal computers in the home it would be nothing more than an electronic library on a small network. Yes every business now uses computers and the net but that didn't and I don't believe would have happened without the personal computer becoming popular for home users."

You really got this the other way around, the internet actually helped expand computer literacy & is primarily responsible for the exponential growth of home PCs. Also without the internet, things like smartphones wouldn't be as popular as they are now.

"The fact that someone would reach to make this nomination tells me this world has truly become a sad place. I would have nominated Manson first!!"

You totally lost me on the above, how has the world become a truly sad place because the internet got nominated for a Nobel price -- huh? The internet getting the award may be controversial, but there have been tenuous ones like Gore's, POTUS (Obama's) & even some worse ones like those given to Kissinger, Arafat or Roosevelt.

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#8
March 13, 2010 at 15:21:51
A Nobel Peace prize? I really don't think so, because in alot of cases (not all of them), the internet leads to alot of arguments, even cyber-bullying, etc... My decision would be no, but I've always wondered if there was really a certain person who controls the whole internet, or if its controlled by it's users?

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#9
March 13, 2010 at 15:38:19
I agree there have been, in my opinion, worse nominations. I never said that the internet was just for porn or child mulestation, what was meant is that my generation is of a time before the internet and by the time it got popular enough to catch our attention as a hole those were the 2 big things being heard about it. At the time no one on television or the radio was making mention of helpful forums on the internet. They were however heavily discussing children being conned into crossing state lines. I remember 1 of the big stories I had heard locally was how a person had supposedly clicked on something by mistake and ended up with a $11,000.00 phone bill. Supposedly this person had been connected to some site overseas by way of a downloaded dialer. Never found out if it was true. Around this time the good things on the internet were merely bylines at least in this area. I am sure there are more great things going on then bad and yes I know bad people have been and always will be here. Like everything else though what is heard the loudest is the bad things that happen. Everyone remembers the O.J. trial but while that was going on less than 200 miles from here a family won like $35 million on the lottery and was using the money to help get homeless people places to live and food to eat. They did this for several years. Did it ever make the front page? NO! O.J. did every day.

My intent was not to imply that bad things are all the internet is good for. Heck at the time I knew people that refused to by a computer because that was all we were hearing about.

I know the media can be missleading and it can change peoples opinions at the drop of a hat but it is what it is true or not good or not.

I do still believe that without the advent of the home computer though the intenet would be nothing more than a corporate library that only the largest of coporations would have access to. Just my opinion. I remeber when the only places here that had records on computer were government run or a member of the fortune 400.

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I want to go like my grandfather did. Peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming at the top of my lungs like the passengers in his car.

(\__/)
(='.'=)
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#10
March 13, 2010 at 16:57:44
I can understand people getting nominated but how do they do this with inanimate objects like the internet?

some other bloke...


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#11
March 13, 2010 at 17:21:14
I do still believe that without the advent of the home computer though the intenet would be nothing more than a corporate library that only the largest of coporations would have access to. Just my opinion. I remeber when the only places here that had records on computer were government run or a member of the fortune 400.

Not quite true. Without home computers the Internet would have remained what it was in the 1980s. An University network only of interest to academics and geeks. Corporations, including Microsoft, were a little late in jumping onto the Internet bandwagon.

To get onto the Internet in the 1980s you had to go through a string of complex Unix commands to connect to the computer your were interested in. You had to know what you were looking for and where to find it. It was this difficulty that led Tim Berners-Lee to develop the World Wide Web. The rest is history. So if anyone should get the Nobel Peace Prize it should be Tim Berners-Lee. He could have made a fortune from the WWW but chose to put it all into the public domain from which we have all benefited.

It was only in the 1990s when home computers became more common and the public had easier access to the Internet that corporations showed any interest in it all.

Stuart

To add: This is the worlds first web site.

http://info.cern.ch/

It has been updated a bit since it first became operational in 1990


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#12
March 13, 2010 at 19:36:29
"... and the rest is Web history.

Although the Web's conception began as a tool to aid physicists answer tough questions about the Universe, today its usage applies to various aspects of the global community and affects our daily lives.

Today there are upwards of 80 million websites, with many more computers connected to the Internet, and hundreds of millions of users. If households nowadays want a computer, it is not to compute, but to go on the Web."

... nice one StuartS

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#13
March 14, 2010 at 06:39:49
I've always wondered if there was really a certain person who controls the whole internet, or if its controlled by it's users?

No one person, company, or entity (gov't etc) controls the internet.


In case you folks didn't know it, the actual origin of the internet is of course the military.

I reiterate, TV and telephones created a global community before the internet ever came into being. And, they "affect our daily lives" every bit as much if not more so.

So it begs the question, why has neither one of those ever been nominated and shouldn't they be nominated ahead of the internet since they've been around longer.

The internet is a public entity not owned by, controlled by, or run by any one person. So how do you even give it a Nobel award?

Recognizing the internet's impact on the world is fine and dandy, but it takes me back to my point about the TV and telephones. They had easily as big an impact if not bigger .

Think about the communications satellites orbiting this globe that make it possible to contact in a matter of a few seconds, any person anywhere as long as they have a phone, be it cell or land line

I'm sorry but I can't believe "the internet" is even being considered. What this tells me is that nobody has done anything noteworthy enough to rate a Nobel so the powers that be are literally scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to come up with someone, or in this case, something, to give a Nobel prize to. It's simply pathetic and sadly, quite tragic.

Has any other inanimate object ever receieved a Nobel prize in the past?


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#14
March 14, 2010 at 14:50:59
I don't see how any piece of technology could be nominated.

The Internet did nothing to enhance world peace, the users of the Internet did and those same users are also the ones who have used the technology for evil.

Any technology can be used for good or evil, the internet included.

MIKE

http://www.skeptic.com/


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#15
March 14, 2010 at 20:06:48
So what about Tim Tim Berners-Lee, he is not just a piece of technology but is certainly responsible for a one of the the main pieces of technology of the 20th century.

The claim that technology can be used for good or evil is most appropriate as the Nobel Prize is derived from the wealth earned by Alfred Nobel and his invention of dynamite.

The prize is funded from a bequest of 250 million US dollars at to-days values.

The first three of these prizes are awarded for eminence in physical science, in chemistry and in medical science or physiology; the fourth is for literary work "in an ideal direction" and the fifth prize is to be given to the person or society that renders the greatest service to the cause of international fraternity, in the suppression or reduction of standing armies, or in the establishment or furtherance of peace congresses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred...

I think Tim Berners-Lee can can make make a good claim in respect of international fraternity.

Stuart


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#16
March 15, 2010 at 07:38:52
I think Tim Berners-Lee can can make make a good claim in respect of international fraternity.

I have to agree with that and your entire post.


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#17
March 17, 2010 at 13:54:48
i believe that its an ok for the internet to win but one thing nowadays u can go on the internet for a day without people trying to send u viruses or without actually getting a virus. i mean look at how many people flock to this site alone looking for answers when there r hundreds just like this one out to help people. either this site is very popular or there r alot of viruses and by my experience with the net and computers im pretty freakin' sure its the second one. im not saying this website isn't popular im just saying alot of people go way out of their way just to make people who use computers suffer. is there any "peace" in that?

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#18
March 17, 2010 at 14:10:00
I believe that is what they call shooting the messenger!

Stuart


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#19
March 17, 2010 at 14:13:55
yeah well it is being used for purposes that arent't in any way shape or form peaceful but its also used for good. so it does kinda equal out

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