Discuss: Amazon VOD

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January 27, 2012 at 07:22:40
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Hi all,

This week's poll question is about news that Amazon wants to compete directly with Netflix using its Instant Video service. Discuss here if you think this move will pay off for Amazon, and, if you like, the poll results themselves.

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Justin


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#1
January 27, 2012 at 10:38:17
First and foremost I know nothing about “Instant video “. I do not use any of these services as of yet. I understand what they are just right now I prefer an actual DVD or maybe the occasional on demand service or pay per view. All this being said I have no idea how many places offer this service but I don’t believe it is many at the moment.
Amazon coming in should give us a wider selection of choices and that’s usually a good thing for consumers. The one issue I see at the beginning is that Amazon seems to be putting their fingers in everything. At some point they have to be spreading themselves pretty thin.
I guess it will depend on their quality control and in what markets they can offer the service.

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#2
January 27, 2012 at 13:02:04
It gets down to price and service. Can they be cheaper and better.

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#3
January 30, 2012 at 14:18:15
shelbyclan: The one issue I see at the beginning is that Amazon seems to be putting their fingers in everything.
They're pretty much the WalMart of Internet stores, yeah.

Will Amazon's VOD be a success? Yeah, studios are doing everything in their power to kill Netflix, and I suspect this includes giving Netflix's competitors better deals.

Will it have Netflix's exclusive content in the future? Maybe!

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#4
January 31, 2012 at 07:22:44
I hadn't heard about this before but I buy a lot of stuff online from Amazon as it is.

I wouldn't be against getting this service from them either if they can offer the same amount, or more, content than Netflix for as good, or better, a price.

Yeah, studios are doing everything in their power to kill Netflix, and I suspect this includes giving Netflix's competitors better deals.

I hadn't heard anything about studios being unhappy with Neflix Razor.

As I understand it, the Neflix people have to pay the studios to use their TV shows and/or movies. If that's true, why wouldn't they be happy with making extra money. It seems to me that collecting $$$ from Amazon get going wouldn't be any different than collecting $$$ from Neflix.

In fact, I can see more competition in this area benefiting those powers because the more people companies them royalties, the more money they make. Wouldn't putting Netflix out of business in effect be cutting their own throats?

Did Neflix somehow figure out a way to use movies and TV shows without paying for it??

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#5
January 31, 2012 at 07:50:38
There are two separate fears in play.
1) Cable providers are scared of competition. They're perfectly happy to be the only source of this content, and they're willing to throw their weight around to stop a studio from selling that content to its newest competitor. So much so that the industry has a saying, "Don't trade analog dollars for digital pennies." You can also see this fear on the ISP side as well. The companies complaining the loudest about Netflix eating up the entire bandwidth of the entire Internet are the same companies who service cable TV.

2) The studios are scared of creating another iTunes. When Apple makes a change to their store, it affects the music industry, and while you can buy music on line from some other company (Amazon), who does, honestly? Also, studios are interested in pushing their own content themselves (See: HBO). Netflix's perceived dominance in the market is seen as a hindrance to that. After all, why would you pay $5 / mo. for Comedy Central when you could get Netflix's catalog as well for $8 / mo?

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#6
January 31, 2012 at 09:28:48
Thanks for the info Razor

I hadn't really thought about it much and what you say makes sense. I guess I could stop being lazy and keep in touch with what's going on but to be honest, I'm not a huge fan of news because it's mostly depressing........lol

Personally, I like the idea of paying less for the same content. Too long has it been possible for the few to corner a market and gouge.

For the longest time here in Canada we had no real competition in the phone industry. Each province had it's Telco and that was it. They set prices on monthly costs and long distance and you paid it. Period, end of story. Then the governing body (the CRTC) made the big carriers cough up some long distance to other players and suddenly we the consumers all benefited because long distance inside North America (as an example) dropped from 90 cents/minute to 5 cents/minute.

We only checked out Netflix because it was free for a month or two. After seeing what was offered, we decided to keep it because they actually offer a lot of content and the price was right. A while back there were rumors that they were going to raise their prices and the wife and I both agreed if they did, we were dropping them like a bad habit.

If the other big players who'd like to keep the market cornered are unhappy all I can say is too freaking bad. So you won't make as big a profit. If you're already rich and making more than you can spend, making a little less isn't going to be a bother.

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How charged with punishments the scroll,
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#7
January 31, 2012 at 13:52:39
We had Netflix back not long after it started but then there was no "Instant Video" just the DVDs mailed to the house. We had a few issues with DVDs getting lost and twice got a DVD we didn’t want. Then blockbuster which we were a member of offered us the same service for a little less money and we felt a better selection at the time. Also we could drop off the DVDs at the local store only a few miles away and between here and work. This would eliminate the loss during return.
After a year or two they raised their price or something I forget but we dropped it and just didn’t bother after that because at that point we had been getting movies we didn’t have time to watch.
Now we rent from Red Box occasionally and once in a blue moon order a pay per view. We don’t see the need to make a monthly payment for this at the moment. If I get the urge to upgrade my hardware so that we can watch this type of content on the TV and there is a pay per view type system in place then we may try it out. I know the price now isn’t bad but some months we wouldn’t use it at all so why should we have to pay?

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#8
February 2, 2012 at 07:40:58
My satellite service comes with PPV. But it costs more to watch one PPV movie than to rent the same movie at the video store. Not to mention, they come out in the movie store well in advance of their release on PPV. Plus, you have to have the satellite receiver plugged into a phone outlet for it to work.

The wife and I don't party or drink and tend to prefer hanging out at home. We're almost 50 and our kids are grown up and long gone so our evenings are free for us to do whatever we please. Our main sources of entertainment are reading and watching TV/Movies (in order of most preferred). This isn't all we do of course, but we do tend to spend more time reading and/or watching TV (yes, we both frequently do both at the same time. Commercials were made for bathroom and reading breaks.......lol).

As such we've spent some $$$ on a good TV and home theatre system. Considering we already owned a Wii, $8/month didn't seem like that much of an investment for what we get out of it. If you were to compare the cost of renting movies I can get on Netflix (don't forget to add the cost of gasoline for driving to the movie store twice per movie), I would say we use it enough to justify the cost quite easily. My wife especially likes it because she can watch movies on her iPad while she's travelling, which she does a lot for work.

Like most things, it's going to be subjective. If like my wife and I, you watch a lot of TV/movies for entertainment then it has value. If you don't, then it doesn't.

I'd happily jump ship and join up with Amazon's service if I could get the same amount of content for less money. If the cost will be the same, or there won't be as much content available then I'd likely stick with Netflix because I already have it in place and working.

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How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

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