Are forum people leaving or taking a break?

Gigabyte / Ga-ma785g-ud3h
January 31, 2011 at 17:20:59
Specs: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, 3.013 GHz / 3326 MB
i noticed that lately a lot of the regulars in here are no longer around or not responding to posts like they used to. Jam hasn't been here for quite awhile. I've been on this site for a few years and noticed that the more popular it becomes, the more vague and nonsensical the question become. It gets so frustrating sometimes. I know it's all volunteer and no one is obligated to participate, but why do you think so many have left. Just curious.

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#1
January 31, 2011 at 18:40:33
Priorities change. Sometimes we mistakenly think we have a life. lol For the lack of a better term "the lack of recognition" bothers some. That is not to say anyone that offers a helping hand here is looking for any recognition for what they have done but sometimes it would be nice to get a response back when help is offered. Also some just take a break from time to time. Many of us this is not the only forum we belong to. While I personally have been on this forum for around 12 years I am not one of the more knowledgeable. That being said some issues I try and help with sometime take a good deal of research on my part so I may be hit and miss from time to time. I try to check in every night but sometimes I just don't have the time.

I've seen jam on here I believe at least since I joined and I will not say that I "know" that person from what I have seen over the years he is one who every now and then he has had enough of the b.s. for a bit but I have no doubt he'll be back. Like others I am sure he helps at other forums as well, I don't know which ones, so he may just be tied up with an issue on one of them.

I have seen this question asked several times since I started coming here and to be honest I really have not seen that many leave and never come back. Usually when they are gone for a while there is more to it then being upset at the site.

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#2
January 31, 2011 at 18:46:22
Grasshopper you make a valid observation. Like you I have been a regular user and sometimes contributor here since probably 2002. At the outset the forum had no outside connections (as in Tom's) and the information asked for and answered was first class. Since amalgamation I too have noticed the deterioration of posts (this one for example i can not see any thing on screen deskotop (191843... how do you answer that in the kindest possible way?

Where a question bears some semblance to normality a contributor will often ask for more information or a clarification of a point and the OP never bothers to reply more than likely because he has also posted on three other forums with the same question and he has garnered enough information from the three replies to sort his problem. It is in cases like this that I feel the contributor says (to himself) "why should I bother?" and his interest in the forum gradually wanes. There are forums where there seems to be more interaction between correspondents and this problem does not seem to exist.

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#3
February 1, 2011 at 02:14:15
Just a suggestion. The forum needs moderators who have the power and skills to remove posts more easily. Or if the posts question is vague and warrants removal. Thread jumpers who put their problems into another thread make me frustrated. As the original post question gets lost, then I don't learn off the thread.

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#4
February 1, 2011 at 09:00:17
Like others above have stated I have been here for sometime and try to pop in on a daily basis.
A real peeve for me are the post that you need a secret decoder ring to understand, a little use of grammar goes along way with me. This is not meant against someone whose first language is not English at all, my gripe is the lack of its use.
I will continue coming here as it is one of my favorite places on the web, however I have become more selective on what threads I will jump into.
To all the regulars I say keep up the good work and lets all try and keep this the fine site that we found so long ago.

Keep the old stuff running


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#5
February 1, 2011 at 10:24:24
The forum needs moderators who have the power and skills to remove posts more easily.

Several months ago Justin introduced moderators in each of the forums who can move, remove and/or edit posts.

Like most of the responders, I've been hanging out in CN for quite some time. When I first found a need for, and went looking for, a forum like this, I ended up a member on probably half a dozen or so and I hung out in each one regularly. Over time I've dropped all the others except this one.

Mostly that's due to the fact that if I spend 2 minutes per question and answer ten on each of 6 forums, I've spent 2 hours of my day helping people online. Two hours is a fair chunk of time so over time I've pared it down to just the one forum and reduced the amount of time (total) per day I spend.

Over the years, my total time per day spent on a computer (in whatever capacity) has dropped drastically. Outside of work, I used to spend anywhere from say 2 to 4 hours a day on my PC. Now I spend one hour in the morning while sipping coffee and playing Texas Hold'em and doing emails. As someone mentioned, "life" is interfering........LOL.........and too, my desire to game online has left me and, I married the lady I chatted with for years so there you go....less reason for me to be on a computer.

I suspect this is pretty much the case for most people who come and eventually leave.....life happens or you've spent so much time on your computer you're glutted and have had enough and take a break.

It matters not how straight the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

***William Henley***


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#6
February 1, 2011 at 12:30:33
re: "The forum needs moderators who have the power and skills to remove posts more easily. Or if the posts question is vague and warrants removal."

Moderators can remove any post in the forums that they moderate with 2 clicks, with the 2nd click being nothing more than answering the "Are you sure?" question.

It doesn't get much easier than that.That said, a "vague post" doesn't always warrant removal.

For example, a newbie to an application, e.g. Excel, might not know that their question is vague until it is pointed out to them.

If we are here to help posters, then it's our obligation to not only try to solve their actual problem, but to let them know when they have not provided enough information when it is apparent that they don't know what we need in order to help them.

If we simply removed all posts that are vauge, we would be missing a lot of teaching opportunities. In addition, the poster would have no idea why their post was removed.

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#7
February 1, 2011 at 13:39:32
All your comments have been very interesting. I came to CN quite a few years ago and also visit the page every day. I'm a semi retired carpenter by trade with computers as a hobby. I have a lot more time now that I don't work every day. I never worked in the IT industry and really never wanted to. I consider my knowledge to be somewhat limited compared to some of you. As far as my comment on posts go, I agree with DerbyDad on the beginners aspect, as we were all beginners at the start. Even some posts about where to get drivers is acceptable knowing a lot of people just aren't knowledgeable about these things. What's frustrating is the posts like HP pavilion doesn't turn on. Then you have to pull teeth to get them to expand and a lot of times, that's the end of the response. All things aside, I can see why you would want to take a break for awhile sometimes. I would like to thank each and everyone of you for the time and knowledge you have contributed so far. I've learned a lot from this site and continue to do so. Keep up the good work.

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#8
February 1, 2011 at 16:36:28
In the very short time I have used and owned a pc 4.5months only, these forums have been a valuable teaching source. And I now have enough knowledge to help others, here and on other sites.
I am far from being a pc wizard, and am learning every day.
I too wish to thank the CN helpers who continue to amaze me with their understanding and ability to teach others, me included. ie ScoobyDoo, Johnw,Johnr, Derek etc.
I remember my first ever problem with my pc and the sinking feeling as I thought my pc was dead, and would require a lot of money to fix.

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#9
February 2, 2011 at 12:52:16
I think it depends on the forum. I am a long time Unix guy specializing in shell scripting with a smattering of Unix "C" programming. And - like a lot of you - I've been around a long time at CN (siince 2003).

The number of Unix questions has declined over the years, and, thus, the number of pros answering questions has declined. That is not a reflection on CN; it's just that interest in Unix scripting has declined across the board. It is just the nature of the game.

Interestingly enough, the Linux forum probably gets more questions, but they're more related to distros and install questions than scripting or programming.


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#10
February 4, 2011 at 07:34:19
My two cents is that many of the posts here are of the kind that the poster should be able to answer for themselves but are too lazy. Many computer users have no interest in learning anything about fixing or maintaining their computers.

I have started ignoring many new posts where in the past I might have responded to more of them.

I agree with Derby about removal of posts that are not complete or in the wrong forum. As a moderator in the Hardware forum, I have moved many threads that were not hardware related. I have only removed a few posts outright and have let Justin handle others.

A few of my peeves here are the following:

A member that is obviously not knowledgeable on a topic responding to it.

New members that come here and post replies to months old threads that do not add to the thread. Or they piggyback on that thread with a similar issue.

Members that are confrontational. They come here for help and then display an attitude.

I think that type of behavior from posters is tolerated but the same behavior from regular helpers here is not. jam can by abrupt and abrasive at times but know his stuff. Perhaps he has been banned for that behavior?


In response to the comment above by nails. My spin on that is folks in the trade that used to help here as well as take away knowledge may feel used by the current situation here. For months I resisted the automatic thumbs up for any response. Finally got tired of changing them. I am not a fan of the ratings either.

I come here to keep my mind sharp and keep up my self taught computer skills, such as they are. I am sometimes resentful of all the ads that interfere with the use of the site.


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#11
February 7, 2011 at 09:16:06
Perhaps he has been banned for that behavior?
I know I haven't, and he's no more abrasive than me.

Anyone just consider sending him a PM, and asking him how life's treating him? It seems like the easiest way.

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#12
February 7, 2011 at 12:48:27
I sent him a pm and he doesn't answer.

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#13
February 10, 2011 at 14:33:55
I noticed an eerie resemblance to Jam when I read Mickliq's posts. Could Jam have morphed?

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#14
March 7, 2011 at 13:01:45
I've been active here, though not for very long. I'm finding it a little discouraging that so many questions are very poorly formulated, and that acknowledgments are so seldom given. I can understand language problems, but I can't respect when people who want help won't take the time to frame their question with a decent amount of detail, or even simply with understandable grammar. Judging by the number of people who acknowledge help, the predominant attitude is that we are here as their slaves. Consequently, I have become a little more discriminating about which questions I attempt to answer.

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