Solved Protection for older operating systems (Windows 95)

November 1, 2015 at 00:31:23
Specs: 98 SE, Pentium 4/ PC2700
I have a windows 98 machine. It has no virus scan, no anti malware, and probably no firewall. And I don't know of any that supports such an old operating system. Short of re-imaging or chucking it, what can I do to protect this machine and prevent it from infecting my others machines.

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#1
November 1, 2015 at 02:39:47
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Only have one AV installed at a time.

ClamWin Free Antivirus
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivi...
http://www.clamwin.com/index.php?op...
Please note that ClamWin Free Antivirus does not include an on-access real-time scanner. You need to manually scan a file in order to detect a virus or spyware.
ClamWin is a Free Antivirus program for Microsoft Windows 8/ 7 / Vista / XP / Me / 2000 / 98 and Windows Server 2012, 2008 and 2003.

BitDefender Free Edition
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivi...
http://www.bitdefender.com.au/solut...

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#2
November 1, 2015 at 06:44:49
I wouldn't suggest ClamWin because it doesn't scan in real-time. BitDefender Free Edition claims to work on all Windows versions:

http://filehippo.com/download_bitde...

Good luck finding a firewall. My suggestion would be to dump Win9x altogether & replace it with one of the modern lightweight Linux versions which will run on old hardware.


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#3
November 1, 2015 at 07:54:47
riider makes a good point about finding software for Win9x. An older version of Avast (i.e. 4.x) or any version which keeps definitions updated would work. Jetico Personal Firewall did (at one point) support Win98 (version 1.x), but dropped support after 2.x. If Linux isn't you're thing, you could try to nLite a "more-modern" OS (Win2K, XP) if you have enough horsepower to support the "upgrade" (RAM/CPU/HDD)

Update: Apparently there was also Kerio Personal Firewall which worked for Win98:

http://www.321download.com/LastFree...

FYI...Downloaded and scanned (with Avast). No threat found.

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

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#4
November 2, 2015 at 18:55:56
I will give those a try and get back to you. Thanks.

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#5
November 3, 2015 at 15:33:34
Well, I downloaded bitdefender free from the company site.

http://www.bitdefender.com/solution...

That page doesn't claim it works for all versions of windows. Also, I don't see what version it is after download, and I haven't tried installing it.

The filehippo site says that bitdefender free works for all versions of windows. It gives the version of the software as 1.0.21.1099. Is this an older version? Also, I don't like downloading from file sharing sites. What good does the MD5 checksum do me if I don't know what it should be anyway?

The link for bitdefender in post #2 takes you to a webpage that looks like the link I just posted. The difference in the URL is that one is a .com site and the other a .com.au site. I have been told a .com.com site is a phony site. What does .com.au mean?

I'm not sure what Avast V4.X is, they only seem to advertise it by the year it was made. And from what I have seen on their website it looks like they don't offer (currently anyway) a stand alone firewall product. Do you know how Avast V4.X translates in to the advertised product name?

Wiki for Jetico Personal Firewall says V1.0 became free after V2.0 was released, but I didn't see a link to download it on their website. I emailed them to find out.

I went to the Kerio company site, but at first look it appears the firewall they offer is a hardware firewall (external box). However, there is a "Try it Now" download link so I'm not sure what they are offering. The link posted to the file sharing site takes you to a download for Kerio personal firewall v 2.1.5. They don't tell you what the MD5 hash is for it, but like I said earlier I don't know what good that does anyway. It downloads as a zip file, which Norton apparently doesn't scan. I had to scan it manually. It came up clean.

So far it seems like the only site going to have this kind of software is going to be some third party file sharing site. And I'm not sure how I can place my trust in these types of download sites especially for software of this nature.



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#6
November 3, 2015 at 15:55:15
"I'm not sure what Avast V4.X is, they only seem to advertise it by the year it was made."

Avast 4 (i.e. 4.x)(circa 2008/2009) is an older version of Avast that was available for use on Win98 through Windows 8. Currently it is still updated with definitions (though that could change at any time). It's not available from Avast's site but is available on some "old-app" sites such as:

http://www.oldapps.com/avast_antivi...

While the updating process may or may not be automatic, you can still update definitions manually (as I do on a Asus Eee PC running WinXP).

"...Jetico Personal Firewall says V1.0 became free after V2.0 was released, but I didn't see a link to download it on their website. I emailed them to find out.

So far it seems like the only site going to have this kind of software is going to be some third party file sharing site. And I'm not sure how I can place my trust in these types of download sites especially for software of this nature."

I'd bet that it's unlikely they'll respond. Older apps are generally not supported by most companies, thus leaving you to rely on "old-app" websites to find such. Again, it's best if you scan anything you download before installing to make sure you don't receive any "unwanted gifts" with the files. This is the penalty one has to pay when continuing to run older operating systems...the market (both hardware and software) is driven by customers being squeezed to spend money to upgrade both.

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."

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#7
November 3, 2015 at 17:10:16
I went ahead and downloaded clamwin from the main website (redirects to sourceforge for the actual download).

Looks like the softpedia site downloads from your choice of some mirror sites.

I also downloaded bitdefender from filehippo. The only link I saw there was a button labeled Latest Version. I ran a DOS file compare on it against the one I got direct from the bitdefender site. No differences found, so it must be the same version. Not sure how they are doing it on file hippo, maybe it just downloaded it from bitdefender in the background.

So, I'm not sure why the bitdefender site and filehippo would list the OS compatibility differently. I suppose I'll try and install it and see what happens.


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#8
November 3, 2015 at 17:33:56
"... downloaded clamwin from the main website (redirects to sourceforge for the actual download)"

Sourceforge is a trusted host site for many types of software. Just remember, as mentioned, ClamWin is not real-time protection. It must be ran manually (which could still allow a virus to be downloaded and not stopped like with real-time protection).

"...I'm not sure why the bitdefender site and filehippo would list the OS compatibility differently."

Many "mega-sites" (such as FileHippo) only host files, and don't normally keep up with the compatibility of a specific version of software. If the specs were listed on BitDefender's site, then that's what is likely correct.

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#9
November 3, 2015 at 18:13:51
Confirmed: Bitdefender Free Antivirus 1.0.21.1099 will not install on windows 95 or 98.

I went looking for a release history on bitdefender free antivirus, but couldn't find one.

And the release history page for Avast comes up error 404 right now.


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#10
November 3, 2015 at 19:38:08
Again, if you're sticking with an older OS, you'll have to depend on sites other than the original to find what you need.

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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#11
December 3, 2015 at 23:08:17
First of all, excuse me for my english and for resuming an old question.

I would like to thank who answered this question cause i'm a Windows ME user and you gave me many useful informations. I also would like to return the favor giving my feedback.

Antivirus - I tried ClamWin and it works on Windows ME despite a couple of issues:
- Although the setup process let you choose installation destination it installs some parts of the program (database, definitions, logs and quarantine) in the system partition, no matter wich disk/partition you choose. Anyway it is then possible to move this folder anywhere changing its location in preferences.
- Automatic update of definitions did not work for me and i had to manually download daily.vcd and main.vcd from Clamwin website.
- File scanning is VERY VERY slow! I tried to scan a folder with 10GB of data and, after more than 30 minutes, i had to stop the process but i don't know how many time was left, cause there is no total progress indication, but only single file progress indication.

Firewall - I would suggest ISAmad and every Win9x user to get Sygate Personal Firewall wich i'm using since more than 10 years with great satisfaction. It does exactly what a firewall should do without any single issue. The first time a program try to access the internet SPF asks for your permission and you can obviously choose to authorize that program forever. It keeps a list af all programs that have accessed the internet allowing at any time to change their setting between "always ask", block or allow. It has a complete set of log files. Its advanced rules allow to block a single IP address (or an entire range of IP addresses) from contacting your machine, no matter wich program you are using (great feature!).
I suggest to get Sygate Personal Firewall 5.5. Since the program was then acquired from Symantec it will try to reach a dismissed registration webpage first times you use it, but after a few attempts it will not bore you anymore.

BE CAREFUL: I remember to have found an infected setup file some years ago. If you cannot find a reliable SPF setup file I can share the one I stored for my personal usage (you can scan it with your antivirus prior to install).

Cheers to everybody!

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#12
December 4, 2015 at 00:41:07
CAUTION!

I tried to install Avast 4.8.1367 downloaded from filehippo and it totally screwed up my system! Luckily i'm a bit paranoid and I use to save a ghost image of my system partition before any installation so i could recover my system, otherwise i'd have to format and reinstall operating system (Windows ME).

After the setup process, Avast asked for rebooting the system and at the boot appeared the usual Windows message about updating config files that could take several minutes but then nothing happened! I also tried to boot in safe mode but the system hanged on same message.

So, be extremely careful when trying to install Avast on Windows ME, and backup your system partition before!


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#13
January 16, 2016 at 22:06:27

It sounds like on-access scanning is in the works for ClamWin's future.
http://www.clamwin.com/content/view...

Posting the link to the donation page for ClamWin Free Antivirus.
http://www.clamwin.com/content/view...

I hope they continue to develop this and to support these older operating systems.


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#14
February 2, 2016 at 13:03:42
Comodo Firewall might work. There are a number of free and fee security Swiss Army Knives as well as OnetopicOneProgram utilities that, while not too assertively set, along with user security common sense, can provide adequate if not perfect protection for older Windows.

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