Is 32bit antivirus enough for 64bit OS?

November 3, 2020 at 14:46:44
Specs: Windows 3.1(x16) on FreeDOS(x32)+Windows NT 5.2(x64)+Windows NT 6(x64)+Windows NT 7(x64)., 2.6 to 3.5GHz/10GB.
Greetings,i am using Panda Free antivirus for years because it has less resource consumption,not slowing down computer like Avast,AVG,or Eset & has a reputation of best Free antivirus,but some of my OSs r 64bit & even Panda has online installer,it has no autodetection of OS architecture(like for example Partition Guru,which automatically installs its version corresponding with target OS architecture),nor an option to install 64bit version,nor i did not find any 64bit version download(as exist for Total Commander or 7z),so Panda Free antivirus obviously exist only in 32bit variant,r 64bit OSs protected by Panda Free antivirus vulnerable to 64bit malware?
Can a 32bit antivirus detect a 64bit virus?
R 64bit OSs completely unprotected against 64bit malware,as i have 32bit antivirus?
Should i install a 64bit antivirus?
Exist a 64bit antivirus with similar properties like Panda Free:
-minimal resources consumption?
-Free?
-updating itself every few mins?
-same functionality?
-web filter(blocking sites containing malware)?
-anti-phishing & anti-scam(blocking sites containing phishing SW & sites reported for scam including automatic redirection to such sites from sites looking normally)?
Thanx for advices in advance.

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#1
November 3, 2020 at 14:59:49
Common sense suggests that for a 64 bit OS - use the 64 bit version of whatever applications, utilities, etc. you intend to run on the 64 bit OS?

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#2
November 3, 2020 at 17:46:26
Not sure if such exists, but if a virus designed to permeate 64-bit only files is infecting a system...how would a 32-bit virus-scanner even be able to detect it? As trvlr suggests....use a program specifically designed to handle a 64-bit OS (for everything that's available, not just a virus-scanner).

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#3
November 3, 2020 at 17:54:22
Use MSE if you are running Vista or W7.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/dow...

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#4
November 3, 2020 at 19:19:19
I'm curious why you're running all those operating systems & why you refer to them as NT rather than their more common names.
NT 5.2 = XP
NT 6 = Vista
NT 7 = Not sure what that is?

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#5
November 4, 2020 at 12:30:26
I sent the following request to the Panda Security,as i for sure searched over the web 1 more time & found no 64bit version:"Greetings,i am using Panda Dome Free for years,but i now have also 64bit OSs & i noticed,Panda Dome Free is 32bit only,so i logically assumed & asked @ Computing.net ,am i totally vulnerable & unprotected against 64bit viruses?& They confirmed my worry,a 32bit antivirus cannot detect a 64bit malware,so do U have a 64bit version?
Is it only available as paid?
So i have probably my 64bit OSs full of 64bit viruses & 32bit Panda Dome will say me,everything is OK?
Have U an another solution,but i must access the internet only via a 32bit version of Windows with Panda Dome Free?
With regards Sabina Zelena.
https://www.computing.net/answers/s... "
I was satisfied with Panda Free,but since i started to use also 64bit OSs,i noticed,Panda is marked with "*32" in Task Manager & the program installed in "Program Files(x86)" & nothing in "Program Files",which means,it is 32bit only & not found 64bit version on their web,but they claim compatibility with "Windows XP,Windows Vista,Windows 7,Windows 8,Windows 8.1 & Windows 10,but no architecture mentioned & as U c,it is more precious to Write "NT 5.2" instead of "XP",because "XP" may mean "NT 5.1"(32bit),"NT 5.2"(64bit),or both,in this case their "XP" means "NT 5.1" only,as it refused to install on "NT 5.2",it is sad,this precious marking was abandoned since Vista & all other Windows versions has same number for 32bit & 64bit versions,which allows claim 'complatibility',which means hiddenly some Windows Vista,some Windows 7,some Windows 8…
Yes,i install 32bit versions of programs on 32bit OSs & 64bit versions of programs on 64bit OSs,if particular SW has separate versions marked with architecture type,they r for,as i mentioned as an example 7z or Total Commander,other programs has autodetection & installs their versions for OS architecture,they detects,i.e.Firefox,or Partition Guru,but if i do not found 64bit version,i install 32bit,which is not problem,if it is not a crucial SW,which antivirus is.
I thinked about it,since i revealed it,how a very popular free antivirus,which has a reputation of 1 of the best free antivirus SW,can be 32bit only & totally lack 64bit version now in 64bit era,when only heritage-OS collectors like me uses some last 32bit OS installations,but even people like me must use 64bit OSs too in some cases(i.e.wanting huge RAM for VirtualBox),i am using 3 OS architectures & it is cool,my 1st partition with 32bit FreeDOS & 16bit Windows 3.1 is absolutely safe,maybe my 5.2 & 6.0 r safe too,as they does not c the WiFi adapter & thus has no internet,but my productivity OS Windows 7 64bit may be a playground for all kinds of 64bit malware ridiculing my half-blind antivirus-& only this last part is common with today's standard singleOS users,who does not collect heritage SW & have just 1-productivity OS,which is 64bit in 99.9% of cases & an antivirus developer ignores it & provides 32bit only antivirus years after entire world except museums & collectors switched everything to 64bit?!This is absolutely crazy-& even such ignorant vendor has 1 of the best reputations in freeware antivirus area?!
I was suspicious,but i somehow could not believe,some1 has such success with half-nonfunctional product & so many 64bit computers r 'protected' by a 32bit (half)antivirus & users,who does not asked here,continuing thinking their PC is protected & maybe a terrible 64bit ransomware waiting for them @ home unnoticed by their 'protection',so U fully confirmed my worry,there is something strange with my antivirus.
As i understood(fix me,if wrong),with current antivirus,any entirely 64bit malware can attack any 64bit SW(incl.64bit OS) on my computer,but cannot damage any 32bit,nor 16bit files,but for example a 64bit spyware can steal my i-banking access data from 64bit Firefox unnoticed by antivirus.
Thanx for making clear,in which danger i am,since i am using 64bit OSs & continuing to use Panda.
That was preciously my question,when i noticed,my antivirus ignores OS architecture-"how would a 32-bit virus-scanner even be able to detect it*? *64bit malware.
For every other important SW(mainly utilities) i found 64bit or universal versions,but for Panda antivirus i just found,Panda 'Security' is OS architecture ignorant & i staying stunned with their ignorancy,or inability to port their product with very good 32bit malware detection to 64bit architecture?.
I used MSE & Windows Defender long time ago,but when i noticed,my laptop has strange behavior & a strange named program always uses 50% of CPU,i was sure,it is a malware & i was right,i installed Panda antivirus & it found a lot of malware & cleaned it out,then i used Panda for years,as it detected all malware attacks & without slowing down the computer by itself,so i was safe & my machines had not overloaded their CPUs by viruses,nor by a resource-hungry antivirus,as Avast or AVG,this is shocking,such good antivirus is only for 32bit OSs & since i had 1st 64bit OS,i am in danger again & i again has such bad options,i must install a resource-heavier antivirus,or payed antivirus,or MSE,which means,i will have to let Panda run too,because MSE is very weak protection,so for 32bit malware i will have to let run Panda simultaneously with MSE,which will add very poor 64bit malware detection,so more advanced 64bit malware will cheat both & move in comfortably.
& as MSE is for Windows up to 7,is it still updated?
I am running both,Vista & 7,but only Windows 7 has access to internet.
I am a collector of old SW & old OSs,so Vista & XP 64bit(c,howmuch longer this is,than 'NT 5.2'?) r just for old OS collection purposes,only Windows 7 is a productivity OS on this machine,only Windows 7 has internet & antivirus & other OS partitions r scanned by Windows 7's antivirus,all the other partitions r museum collections only,the newest of the old OSs collection r in this laptop,because it is my strongest machine now(more powerful HW,than my other machines combined).I love their NT distinction,because in fact,all non-NT Windows r DOS-based Win16 & Win32,which evolution line ended with Windows (non-NT) 4.9 - ME,i love to let visible the continuity of the NT line & let them distinct from DOS-based line,today's Windows r all successors of Windows NT 3.1 or more preciously of OS/2 & y not let visible this continuity & relations between NT line products?
The names themselves does not preciously mark the point of particular versions in their timeline,i disagree with removing the "NT" mark from visible parts of newer Windows NT family OSs & about XP,the version number is really precious,i dislike the later mess-up the various architecture versions under same version numbers.
About NT 7 it is very chaotic,external marking visible to users & brand marking & can be said GUI version is "Windows 7",but it is an NT line product,so it should be marked as Windows NT 7,because it is not a DOS-based line Windows & of course,i know,the kernel version number is NT 6.1,so to be absolutely precious,i should write "Windows NT 7 with/on kernel NT 6.1" or "Windows NT 6.1 with GUI NT 7",so it is shortened & same,as shortened "Windows 7" cannot be confused with DOS-based line by experts & fans,because Windows 7(non-NT) does not exist,less shortened "Windows NT 7" referring Windows with GUI NT 7 & kernel NT 6.1 is not more confusing,as it cannot mislead (experts & fans,& who other uses this forum more?) to a Windows with kernel NT 7,as kernel versions between 6.3 & 10 does not exist.
Do i explained it enough?
Partition name is "Windows NT 7 Ent.(krnl.6.1).x64" for the partition of this OS,i send regards & thanx from to U all & pls.add some other tips to good 64bit free antivirus SW,maybe i may in worst case use also 1 of these resource-hungry antiviruses,i dislike,because with this HW,which is more powerful,than my other computers combined,maybe even Avast or AVG will not so much slow down the machine,like my single-CPU laptops with 2GB of RAM was almost totally frozen by Avast or AVG,but questionable is,how stable will be even this system with 10GB RAM,if i will run a resource-hungry antivirus together with VirtualBox with some also resource-hungry OS in it,like i.e.last pre-reset Longhorn build,& even Longhorn is also NT 6.0,maybe pre-reset Longhorn builds should be retroactively referred as Windows NT 5.9-Longhorn,as the pre-reset builds r in fact completely different OS,than later Windows NT 6.0(Post-reset Longhorn & Vista),maybe it should be numbered even lower,as pre-reset Longhorn was build on modified kernel NT 5.2-based on Windows NT 5.2,but post-reset Longhorn was built almost from scratch,so technically pre- & post-reset Longhorns r more different,than pre-reset Longhorn & XP or post-reset Longhorn & Vista.I plan to install the main versions of old Windows in multiboot & other versions,less known,which had less historical meaning/impact(i.e.Longhorn,Neptune,Chicago,Fundamental,etc.),i plan to install in VirtualBox,so even without a resource-hungry antivirus,i maybe will have to upgrade the RAM to 16GB,especially for running 64bit Longhorn builds in VirtualBox.
The max.resource load awaited is Host OS+antivirus+VirtualBox+Guest OS(most hungry planned is last pre-reset 64bit Longhorn).So i need so gentle antivirus,which will not cause crash of the rest mentioned by its own resource consumption,nor will openly welcome 64bit malware to immigrate into my disk.
Thanx also for link to MSE,i downloaded it,but there r 2 files for download(downloaded both) & none is marked '64bit' or '32bit',so i do not know,which to install.
Still i would be glad for other tips,as i have bad experiences with MSE,which formerly welcomed malware with red carpet.
Regards S.Z.
PS:Y the Windows Action Center of 64bit versions does not warn users,when it detects a 32bit antivirus only,the protection is insufficient,if it warns,when it does not detect an antivirus at all?
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#6
November 4, 2020 at 17:44:17
"MSE is for Windows up to 7,is it still updated?"
Yes & when it's not, MS will withdraw MSE.
https://www.softpedia.com/get/Other...

"i have bad experiences with MSE,which formerly welcomed malware with red carpet"
I have never had a problem with MSE, in all my years of cleaning up infected comps, it has usually been User error.

Use Unchecky to help prevent third party installs. Nothing is perfect, the badies are always ahead of the goodies, so be vigilant.
https://www.softpedia.com/get/Syste...
https://www.freewarefiles.com/Unche...
https://unchecky.com/
A reliable application that aims to protect your computer against third-party components often offered during software installations.

"Thanx also for link to MSE,i downloaded it,but there r 2 files for download(downloaded both) & none is marked '64bit' or '32bit',so i do not know,which to install"
When I researched it, the 14.4mb version is for Vista/W7. The other is for XP.


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#7
November 4, 2020 at 18:19:37
"maybe will have to upgrade the RAM to 16GB"
You need to research if your old comp & operating system, will handle 16GB.

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#8
November 5, 2020 at 03:16:59
Thank U for advices & mainly explaining that install files of MSE,so the larger is for both architectures of Vista & 7 and the smaller is for XP,maybe for 64bit XP 5.2 too,if i understood right,but main is for 7,as only Win.7 has internet access.Thanx for the Unchecky,i am really worry,i can download a fake of an antivirus instead of real 1,i always check to download directly from Panda Security or other vendor's website,but when i click to download on Panda Security,it always redirected me to cnet.com (since the beginning,i use Panda,the download was always via cnet.com ),just look @ it:<u>https://www.pandasecurity.com/en/homeusers/free-antivirus/</u>
What U think,loox real or fake?
& r U also not c any 64bit version?
Just to make sure,i am not so stupid,i overlooked.
That Unchecky will distinct real SW from its fake counterparts?
May be very useful,thanx.
I searched for parameters,reputation & max.upgradability be4 i bought the laptop,i bought it,because i was satisfied by that research results about it,this is old,but bussiness-class high-end model,which is still high-end even after so many years,in fact i searched for a perfect motherboard & laptop body to build the rest myself,because i enjoy it,what i miss on today's laptops,is that incredible modularity,extra door to everything,which may be upgraded,exchangeable batteries,RAM-door,HDD-door,ExpressCard,VGA,hot-swappable bay-drives,docking station with port replicator,not standard today & on the bottom was a very pleasant surprise:"Made in Japan",not China & even it is 8 years old,it has SATA 3,USB 3,DP & i had never cn be4 so much options in BIOS,which make it well backward compatible with older OSs,today's laptop with same parameters has less connectivity & very poor CSM,if any,mostly limited to Windows 8(.1) & 10(incompatible with W.7,which i love),all made in China,no modularity,need harder HW access & same RAM-limit(!),i wanted something powerful,but LEGACY in 1 & this is built for Windows 7,one of the main reasons,y i bought & yes,the RAM is upgradeable to 16GB,i already have 8GB module in 1 of the slots,in the other 1 is still the original 2GB module,when i will have spare money(now reserved for 2TB HDDs for rest of laptops in the family),i will upgrade the other half of RAM too.If U r about to upgrade or buy something intended to upgrade later,the crucial.com is very good website,U select the vendor,than brand,type,etc,find the target laptop & U will c its max.RAM,U can also buy modules there,or just c,what frequency,CL,etc U must search for & buy elsewhere,the max.RAM there means combined for all slots,U must divide it by number of slots & U know the max.size of particular module,U can use,U also c the max HD capacity supported,only SSD r offered there,but if a laptop takes 2TB SSD,it will take also 2TB HDD,the motherboard does not care,which technology of drive U insert,if it has supported size & compatible interface,it will accept it,if i used this for ensure the HW upgrade options,i never missed,all my upgrades was successful,with HDs it is easier,U can upgrade anything since SATA 1 to 2TB,but with RAM U must check it preciously,that i did & then enjoyed system-building,i love to use something,i built or rebuilt,if U will find Fujitsu Lifebook P772 somewhere,if U do enjoy upgrading & system building too,U will be more,than satisfied with it,same,if U just would like to run Windows 7 on some powerful HW,which U cannot enjoy with resource-hungry Windows 10,or if U just want something made elsewhere,than China.
So i go to study Uncheck & install MSE,thanx.
Shalom.

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#9
November 5, 2020 at 04:19:31
"r U also not c any 64bit version?"
Install & it will work that out.

You can only have one AV installed, they will fight with each other.
Use their uninstaller.
Panda Antivirus Uninstaller
http://www.pandasecurity.com/austra...
https://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak...
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/dow...


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#10
November 7, 2020 at 06:48:17
"i am using Panda Free antivirus for years because it.....has a reputation of best Free antivirus"

That's not true. It has never been a top rated free AV. Kaspersky, AVAST, AVG, & BitDefender are always in the top 10; Panda has never made the top 10 on any legitimate AV review site. Windows Defender ranks higher than Panda.
https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-bes...
https://www.techradar.com/best/best...

"Panda Free Antivirus boasts an attractive user interface and an unusual USB vaccination feature, but it no longer includes protection against dangerous or fraudulent websites and it fares poorly in our hands-on tests."
https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/panda...

"It's a likeable product, but some recent testing lab scores suggest it only offers average accuracy."
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/p...


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#11
November 8, 2020 at 03:51:40
Johnw,thanx for linx & advices,with multiboot i can have as many AVs,as many OSs i have(of course not counting Windows 3.1,as 16bit AVs,nor 16bit malware no longer exist),any AV can then scan all partitions,only inconvenience is,i had not find WiFi driver for Win.NT 5.2,nor 6.0,so i will have to use cable to update virus definitions in these systems,or that offline definitions updater,U gave mi link to it,thanx very much.
I will install MSE to NT 5.2 & 6.0 & update by cable or by offline definitions update.
Now back to the main OS-Windows NT 7(with kernel NT 6.1):
Interesting,kernel difference 6.0 & 6.1 results in almost full driver compatibility,Fujitsu never released drivers for Vista,so i used same drivers for Windows 7 & Vista & Vista refused only 2 drivers:USB 3 & WiFi,but cable-LAN driver & WWAN driver was accepted even in XP,i do not plan access the internet via these museum collection-purpose OSs,but now i am glad,i have at least cable-LAN available from there,or i can insert SIM card,as maybe i will test some AVs,riider suggested & then decide,which is best for main OS & for 1-purpose connection for definitons update,it will be enough-the above mentioned methods to internet access only for definitons update(i will definitely browse the internet from Windows XP,nor open mails).
About the performance,it may be true,Windows Defender can have overall better results than Panda,but in practice it is that way,Panda has more false-positives & Windows Defender has more false-negatives,which is more dangerous,i had preciously that troubles with Windows Defender & Microsoft Security Essentials,it ignored ad-class adware,which Panda did not ignored,just my personal experiences.
Thank U,riider,for that informations,there was some fake AV tests,in which Panda was for years in Top-3,of course,if some AV even does not exist in 64bit variant,it must be fake(maybe tests only in 32bit environment,where Panda even really can be so good,but only in detection of 32bit malware in the world,which is by 99% 64bit & where also most of malware is 64bit,as it is illogical to create 32bit malware,when only some few OS heritage collectors runs 32bit OSs),so thanx to riider's research i update my opinions,that Panda is only good for 32bit museum OSs & can really protect them against all 32bit malware left in the internet(1 or 2% of overall malware),but it is useless for 64bit OSs,thank U for these linx,i go to study these tests(i hope did also in 64bit environment) & believe,in 64bit environment the test results of AVs r,as U described with Panda logically at bottom,as it has no 64bit version(or has no 64bit free version),thank U for other tips,than just MSE & Win.Defender,they maybe detect a hard trojan,but ignores adware with commercial purposes,which caused constant 50% load of the CPU on my smallest netbook,which i used for traveling,until traveling got too dangerous(fines 20'000CZK,if i cannot prove,i go shopping food,go to work,or to medical center…i even do not know,how to prove,i go for food,when i have not a bill yet on the way there),i had also read somewhere,MS is payed by some companies to let their commercial adware pass MSE/Defender.
So of that,U wrote,i had Avast & AVG,detection of malware was good,but the consumption of system resources was pretty high,as i wrote,maybe it will not be so bad,maybe even measurable on my 1st high-end machine,few months earlier i even did not dreamed,i will have something better,than a mid-end with my budget,so my experiences with AVG & Avast on low-end machines may be invalid on my newest(by order of buying,not by order of manufacturing-i have 1 laptop newer by manufacturing,but it is a lower mid-end s--- with almost no upgradability) machine.
But what i am most interested & surprised,is Kaspersky,i knew,it is a top in payed AVs,but i did not knew,it has a free version.
I did not knew about BitDefender.
Thank U for the information,Panda Free has no longer web-protection module,i did not knew about it,because i still c this module in Task Manager,so it is inactive?
Can U sort these AVs,U advised,by system-resource consumption?
Sure no problem even the most lagging AV on this HW alone just with OS,browser,Office,etc,but i plan to use VirtualBox & maybe with so much RAM & a CPU with 2 physical & 4 logical cores with top frequency @ 3.5GHz,i never dreamed,i will have 1ce,i will maybe try a newer game,so in this cases i will need to use all the performance of the HW,so i would like an AV,which will not consume more,than 10% of resources.So which lags less?
If it is about the same,i will try Kaspersky,if it really has a free version.
Thanx for all advices.

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#13
November 8, 2020 at 06:34:26
I am really surprised,Avira is rated better,than Kaspersky,but most of free AVs in the list has very similar detection ratings,i am sad,i found no free version of Norton AV,as its payed version was highlighted for least impact on system performance & very confusing is,payed version of Avast was described as have high impact on performance & free version as have low impact.Somewhere the impact on system performance was not described in free versions section,thus i must extrapolate it from its payed version counterpart,which may not be accurate,hard to choose:
"Best free antivirus 2020 at a glance:
"Avira Free Antivirus,
"Bitdefender Antivirus Free Edition,
"Kaspersky Free,
"Avast Free Antivirus,
"Sophos Home.

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#14
November 8, 2020 at 06:49:23
Thanx,Johnw,i will try that,must i go there from the target OS(via cable),or has it offline installers too(i now prefer,as the room with router is pretty cold & have not long cables)?
The rest drivers i found as offline installers,thus downloaded via Win.7 & then restarted & executed from target OS.

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#15
November 8, 2020 at 08:13:34
Though not always the first choice for many here, when the router is one room and you would like to access it from another too far way ethernet cable wise (discounting using wifi) you can alway use the homeplug system to the same end? Are you familiar with those?

They use house wiring as the lan cabling and are more than adequate for many a situation.

Connect the router to one adapter (located nearby) and put other adapters wherever you need lan access ; connect your computer to it/them and you're away...


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#16
November 8, 2020 at 14:11:48
"i will try that"
That is all you can do Sabina, try, leave no stone unturned.

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November 8, 2020 at 15:50:38
trvlr:Thanx for tip,i have read about these adapters using power grid for LAN,but i have long LAN cables,nor these adapters @ home,both i must buy,so a longer ethernet cable will sure be cheaper,than 2 these power-LAN adapters & 2 shorter LAN cables,that router room is inside the apartment,just without heating,what i have right now here(not need to shop it),is a 2nd older router-unused,maybe it could be turned to a secondary AP/switch,but i do not preciously know,how to connect it that way,to use the WiFi from primary router as it's pseudo-WAN(up-LAN) & its LAN ports as LAN(or sub-LAN),both routers r set to same SSID in WLAN parts.I planned to use it for broadcasting the same WiFi network in the farthest part of the house,where signal from primary router is weak,but still not had time to fully study this.
Johnw:yes,i learning that way,when i studied system administration regularly,the teacher was actually so focused on jokes & fooling up the colleges by remote desktop control,there was fun,but i learned almost nothing,since i reading expert US articles & using forums like this,i learned much more,i find bull s---s even in books for experts here,in 1 example advised settings for multiboot would be quite destructive,if applyed,only reliable sources r the US & UK sources,local education is full of inaccuracy & also hard misleading errors,Czechs r experts in public transport vehicles,maybe beer(i do not know,as i do not drink it,just heard),sure in suppressing human & other Animal-rights,but not in IT,i.e.my 1st AV was AVG-Czech at the time & it 1ce after update got a bug causing constant switching off & on the HDD(it was in Win9x era),which was damaged by that & soon died(my only HDD,which died completely).But good is,i am not despered by not having WiFi in Win.NT 5.2 & 6.0,i gived up turning 4th & further stones(driver webs),as i thought,it is maybe also a failsafe to not have connected these museum-collection OSs to internet,so i am even not sure about turning all stones for WiFi,but will sure try for USB 3,as without the driver,USB 3 ports r not just slowed down to USB 2,but completely ignored by these OSs.But now i turning the stones with AV reviews bellow,Avira & Kaspersky r so close,even with swapped places review/test-web by -web,appear same quality,what about Your experiences,what AV U have & how r U satisfied?
What the protection level & what the resource-consumption?
When U describe an AV's behavior,pls.,also describe,on what HW U run it,under what OS & the behavior @ peak load level-when U watching a FullHD movie,playing a modern game,or running a VM(s) in VirtualBox,or other virtualizer/emulator,or editing multimedia?
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November 8, 2020 at 18:01:18
Update:
Until i am in testing phase of AVs,i yet not uninstalled,but deactivated Panda.I also explored its directory deeper & found 1 sub-sub-dir called "x64" & a sole 1 small DLL file in it,all other appears to be 32bit,sure every EXE is 32bit by the Task Manager.Just for comparison…
1st i testing Kaspersky Free,as it was installed,it also appeared only in Program Files(x86),but it has many subdirs called "x64" or "*x64" & pretty much files in it including executables,but everything,i c running in Task Manager,is also marked "*32",download is only 1 & install process does not ask,what architecture i have,it installs almost with no options to set something & when it run,i cannot c any 64bit process marked "Kaspersky Lab" in Task Manager,i c many such marked processes,EACH MARKED "*32" also,no Kaspersky-process without "*32",so even it has folders & files marked as 64bit,it cms,none of them is running.
So again fake universal AV,which is in fact 32bit only?
Or it does not notice,it is on 64bit OS?
Shall i uninstall it & try another?
Or is there a problem in an OS ID function-may the OS just not inform its programs about its architecture misleading universal programs to chose wrongly their 32bit parts to run?
But Chrome,Firefox,Partition Guru & other programs with architecture autodetection properly used their 64bit parts to install/run,so it rather appears,64bit parts of free AVs may be fake-non functional,just named "x64" to make users believe,they r protected also against 64bit malware.

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November 8, 2020 at 19:29:38
Just an aside...

Stop with the multiple colors on your postings. It makes things very difficult to read, especially on a small device (phone/tablet). If you want to emphasize something, just use bold or italics to do so. Many of us here are beyond 50 years old and eyestrain is something we can do without...

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November 9, 2020 at 06:38:48
T-R-A:I am sorry,i assume,U r angry for that part trying to match Kaspersky's color to distinguish text about it from the text about Panda,is it sufficient to avoid colors with low contrast?
May i let in use darkgreen & darkblue?
I am also from the older ones,i was born in 16bit era,i have 1 bad eye(astigmatic),i would appreciate a dark mode with dark background & light font,but i accept,i am the only,who would wish it here,so it will not be added,thus i can use browsers converting it to dark mode,but as U mentioned,most mobile browsers has no this ability…

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#21
November 9, 2020 at 07:11:18
Generally black type on white background is the best to read...

The emphasise a point use bold type; and if to distinguish between to points of emphasis - or within a single point - use italics (bold or not).

I cannot easily read half of the post (#18) which uses light green on white - be it on an ipad or a 24ins led display.

Very dark blue on white works; but lighter shades of blue on "any" background are not advisable. The human struggles with blue at the best of times; and for print even more so.

Also use paragraphs and some punctuation so as to make it easier to read and follow what you're saying?

re' homeplugs versus long cables... True cables are cheaper than homeplug modules; but the latter allow greater and safer flexibility when it comes to deploying computers, NAS etc.? And there homeplu wifi modules too - which include an ethernet port as well. I use (in the UK) Devolo kit both ethernet and wifit modules to great effect; notwithstanding that one small bedromo/office is also wired to the downstairs router location - that cabling was installed during renovations.


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#22
November 10, 2020 at 08:20:20
Sorry to trvlr too about aquamarine,i removed this color from post #18 & will no longer use light colors here,i do not know all the HTML names for all colors,exist a darker green,than this(darkgreen)?
If yes,please,share its HTML name.
& exist a darker blue,than this(darkblue)?
If no darker blue exist & this is not dark enough,i will discontinue it,,but i would like to retain the darkest green available as my representative color.I will also try to find a darker 1.
Thanx for appendix to Cables/Power Grid-LAN Adapters subtopic.
From the next money i will buy some HDDs,so cables may fit into budget,but adapters not yet.
Any idea about using that 2nd router to use the WiFi network from the primary router as WAN for secondary router & its LAN ports to (sub)-LAN for above described purposes?
If not,will buy a cable.In fact i would like to use the secondary router reverse-like for retranslation from WiFi to cable-LAN.
Have a nice day/night,or what is there for each of U.

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#23
November 19, 2020 at 09:08:32
Update:
Still testing Kaspersky & it found a 64bit malware in an archive during download.
But not c any 64bit Kaspersky process in Task Manager,it has 64bit DLLs,but never cn a 64bit process awake in Task Manager,how it is possible?
May be,that the malware was in fact universal & not 64bit-only?
It was in archive´s subfolder marked "x64" & named "Trojan.Win64.something".
Other malware found was named "Trojan.Win32.its name/Generic".

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