Why can't 3 systems get a standard speed on 100mbps wireless

August 14, 2015 at 06:59:51
Specs: iOS 8.4 and Win.7
Mediacom ISP had their always rotating deal of one class, or another. This time it was 100mbps for a year. Wired is fine and always expect 70 to 90% of signal wireless - depending on moon phase, sciatic nerve pain, zodiac phase, and the Farmer's Almanac. I have my wife, of course, with an PadAir2 an iPhone6s operating within those parameters (twice daily Ookla routine), my 5s, Pad gen.3, pcLaptop, all read 40, same as when I had 50mbps service. Funny thing, 1st day I got 73 on download with the wireless on my 'stuff' - just like hitting a $600 driver at GolfUSA, GREAT!, then finding it doesn't work on the golf course. LinksysAE6350. Looking for help for when buying a pellet gun and at which component to aim it at. BTW - I did testing on all items next to the router/modem setup. Laymen's terms accepted, simple phrasing and handholding appreciated.

P.S. I have been through the, Mediacom, "Not our issue, everything looks fine." Best Buy, (bought the linksys), "not our issue". Apparently, it is my issue. I have subverted myself without knowing it. I'll charge myself double for user-error.

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August 14, 2015 at 08:16:26
You've got a great sense of humor but your post is very convoluted and you haven't really given us the specs we need. Can you please post again and this time give the speeds of each device? Also it depends on what WiFi protocol you are using will provide you with different speeds so we need to know which 802.11 protocol you are using on each device.

It will also depend on how many devices are using the WiFi signal. I live with two roommates and between us all we probably have up to 12 devices using the WiFi signal. We had a single band WiFi router and things were really slowing down. I bought a 3 band router (1 channel at 2.4 GHz and 2 at 5Ghz) and our WiFi screams now.

Here is a good chart of the speeds you can achieve by which protocol you are using.

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August 14, 2015 at 09:44:15
Patience is my middle name.
Okay, broadbands, my net is the one on 2.
iPad 3 (iOS 8.4)
Ping 26ms
Down 40.16
Up 16.32

iPhone 5s
Down 56
Up 16.15

Wife iPhone 6plus (iOS 8.4)
Ping 45
Down 109.89
Up 17.48

Wife iPad Air 2 (iOS 8.3)
Down 51.8
Up 19.09

Lenovo all-in-one (win8)
Ping 30
Down 113.0
Up 16.34

mediacom's deal: 100mbps down, 15 up
Mediacom modem - Thompson modem
Actiontech ECB2500C splitter to TiVo system

...and I am off to the Dr. And am sorry for lack of all information so far. Can get more information and I want to make sure I get the correct information, not moronic information.

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August 14, 2015 at 10:13:29
Hi Davey. So you are splitting the WiFi between 5 devices, that can slow things down a bit. The 100mbps down and 15 up is most likely based on a wired Ethernet connection, it's always going to be slower on a WiFi connection.

Please post back the 802.11 protocol you are using such as 802.11a, g, n, ac, etc on the devices, your router is capable of using both the old and new speeds simultaneously so it may be that some of your devices are using the old slower speed. Also, for testing purposes, turn off the Bluetooth option on your devices. The older 802.11 protocols use 2.4 GHz as the operating frequency and so does Bluetooth. It can interfere with each other.

Also when testing one device, turn off all other devices that use WiFi. Your router is capable of using beamforming technology which means it will send out a stronger signal in the direction of detected WiFi devices. If you have several devices in one room/area it may be sending out a stronger signal to that direction than the direction your are testing a single device in.

"Okay, broadbands, my net is the one on 2."
I don't understand what you mean by this. Are you talking about the WiFi channel? If so, you can also try changing that. If a neighbor is using the same channel it be interfering with yours.

Electrical devices such as florescent lights, microwave ovens, power tools, can create interference which can affect the WiFi signal. When you test the devices, try to turn off anything that can cause interference. Also make sure you are in the same location when testing each device and try to get as close to the router as you can, at least within 10 feet with no obstructions between you and the router.

Here's a link to your router, it explains in better detail about the features of your router.

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August 14, 2015 at 17:36:39
Like THX 1138 pointed out, you're never going to get as good performance with wireless as you will with a wired connection. This is normal and usual and the reason why geeks like me, and gamers, don't use wireless for our PC's.

Also, one can expect at most, 80 to 85% of the rate bandwidth. Which is to say, in the case of a 100 Mbps connection, you can expect at best, 80 - 85 Mbps throughput. There is always a certain amount of overhead so that loss is expected.

Above you list bandwidth by device. What are you getting at the router? The Lenovo looks like the only computer, the rest being pads or phones. Try this, do a bandwidth test with the Lenovo connected wirelessly. Then, disable the wireless interface and plug it into a LAN port on the router and then test with the wired connection and compare. What are you getting with the laptop plugged in?

Remember as well, bandwidth will vary with time of day. During peak hours your connection won't be as good as during non peak hours, it is a contention based network after all and the more people using it, the more congestion and resends of packets you end up having.

Also, if you're using a bandwidth tester online it's results will vary with the number of people using it at the same time. The more people connected concurrently, the slower it will appear to everybody.

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How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

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August 14, 2015 at 22:31:14
Look on you wireless devices at what speed they are actually running at the moment of test. It will depend on the wireless adapter of the device and signal strenght. WIFI connection speeds are adjusted according signal strength.

Acoording some forums, Wireles speed tests:

The iPad 3 can achieve a maximum 802.11n link speed of 65 Mbps

Iphone 5S: 101Mbs

Iphone 6plus: 278Mbs

iPad Air 2: 866 Mbps

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August 15, 2015 at 12:10:50
Sorry, before looking at the above replies I worked on yesterday's communications. As much as this is my doing, please understand that I a fun, yet permanent, break from work - disability (the action word, fun, is where Leonard holds up the SARCASM sign). I rely heavily on access and do not have the temperament for Mediacom's sales. That being said, is why I am looking for the easiest easiest explanation. From yesterday: Everything was disconnected but my Pad 3, it ran at 38.xxmbps down, 16.xx up. So, each of my pad/phone stays same speed if others are plugged and running, or not. Wife's pad/phone run same. I do know that the wireless is not expected to reach the speeds of the service, but we are looking for neighborhood, or the same very small town.

Yes, through the WiFi Analytics (inSSIDer 2.1) is where I was mentioning the channel 2. Today, hooked everything back up and I got the same readings on my Pad3 and Phone5S. But, my wife read off 109.9 on her phone6S and PadAIR2 101.9. I then asked her to leave this house!!

The splitter, and sorry that I did not clarify,the ActionTec splitter, was Mediacom's MoCA Net Adapter.

Oh yes, 'N' on the router question.

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August 15, 2015 at 16:16:13
Have you tried running the bandwidth tests from your laptop with it:
a) connected wirelessly
b) connected via network cable?

What were your results?

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How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

***William Henley***

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August 16, 2015 at 10:15:20
The Lenovo ran 111 connected and 110 disconnected. That is with both phones and connected (not actively being used), 1 iPad connected but not using, wife's iPad very actively throwing the alphabet back and forth in Words With Friends.

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August 22, 2015 at 11:37:56
Basically, it has come to with everything disconnected and powered down and all combinations with 2.4 and the 5.0ghz lines (basic network troubleshooting process of elimination) the older iPad 3 is not meeting expectations (replies are somewhat cryptic that expectations are low, but capabilities are high. It runs at 40 and above, critics were stating lower. The iPhone 5s same thing. Again, even by themselves)
Again -
Mediacom - not our problem (statement made onsite)
Best Buy - not theirs from the original 10/100/1000 router, or iPad check
Then there is the Mediacom commercial about the one year 100mbps monthly deal - more family members , more connections, faster speeds, more games, faster downloads, and no little small print stating it depends on user 3rd party quip. Another BTW - the first day while Mediacom was here installing the service, all ('all' includes the iPad and iPhone question) worked. Everything was running better than 73 download.

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August 23, 2015 at 10:24:33
In light of everything you've done and after looking through all posts in this thread, especially #2 I'm not seeing anything that would lead me to believe you have an issue with the external (provider) network or your SOHO router.

The fact that your laptop is getting the rated bandwidth (especially when using a wired connection but also when wirelessly connected) pretty much rules out problems with the router and/or your provider and leaves your personal equipment.

It matters not how straight the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

***William Henley***

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