Unable to write/delete to network computer

Microsoft Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit
March 6, 2016 at 15:53:54
Specs: Windows 10, Core i7
Hello all--

I'm having a problem that I think has developed in the last couple of months. I have two computers; a Windows 10 that's acting as a media server, sort of, and a Windows 8 that accesses the files on the first one.

My problem is that I'm unable to make changes to files on two of my three data drives on the Windows 10 box from the Windows 8 box; no renaming, no moving files to the Win10, no deleting...nothing. Every time I try, it gives me the message that I'll need to provide administator permission. To the best of my recollection, this was working a few months ago.

Networking for both is set to allow network discovery, require passwords is set to off, they're both on the same homegroup (which I'm not using, I don't think). Both the data drives on the "server" are shared at the root; on each, there is a main folder that is also shared, with read/write access for Everyone.

What am I missing here?

Thanks in advance,
Eric

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#1
March 6, 2016 at 19:11:19
Read/write where? On the share's security, or the file systems? It'll need to be set on both. Might also want to grant Anonymous read/write as well.

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#2
March 6, 2016 at 20:08:43
How do I set the read/write option on the file system?

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#3
March 6, 2016 at 20:44:11
Right click on the file, folder, or drive and select Properties, then Share Tab, Then set Share to on and set read/Write access. Using Everyone may be convenient (and does work normally) but it opens you up to a security threat, it would have been better to list all users separately and set access for each one.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#4
March 6, 2016 at 21:04:29
Fingers--

Sorry, I thought that was just for the share--I've already done that. Since this is a workgroup, not a domain, and I'm not using user logons with passwords, how could I set access for a user account that's from another computer?


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#5
March 7, 2016 at 08:45:27
Should be a tab on the drive/folder properties labeled "Security."

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#6
March 7, 2016 at 20:57:16
Each user logs into their computer with a user name and possibly a password. These user names are what you allow and set rights. If the computers use password log-ins than those passwords may be asked for.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#7
March 8, 2016 at 09:23:46
Okay, double checked: Share has Everyone, with Read/Write access; Security also has Everyone with Read/Write access. ??

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#8
March 8, 2016 at 11:22:54
And what do you have for Anonymous Logon?

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#9
March 8, 2016 at 14:31:34
I don't have an Anonymous. Will try to add it...

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#10
March 13, 2016 at 12:34:20
Okay, I've tried to add Anonymous--it says it can't find Anonymous.

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#11
March 13, 2016 at 13:26:59
It should be Anonymous Logon, and it should be there. Actually, you should be able to type "anon" into the "Select Users or Groups" dialog, hit "OK", and it should be automatically expanded into "Anonymous Logon".

Also, the ACLs on the files themselves could be "wrong." Easiest way to check would be to open PowerShell (ISE), and type:

cd <shared directory>
dir -fo -rec | group { ($_ | Get-Acl).GetSecurityDescriptorSddlForm("Access") } | ft -a

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#12
March 14, 2016 at 11:00:56
Razor--

I actually put "Anonymous" into the "Select..." dialog--it should have picked it up from that, shouldn't it?


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#13
March 14, 2016 at 11:02:16
Addendum: I found that I'm able to do all the editing, adding, deleting I want (on those same shared drives on the Win10 machine) from a third computer running Win7. Would that possibly point to the issue being something actually on the Win8 machine, since I'm not having the same issues with the Win7?

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#14
March 14, 2016 at 18:36:56
Can't rule it out, but my Win8.1 has full access to my Win10 shares. Can you copy files from the Win8 box to the Win10 share, and delete the copy?

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#15
March 14, 2016 at 20:34:33
I can see keeping Windows 7 on some machines, especially older ones, but it makes sense to upgrade the Windows 8 machine to Windows 10 for free (before it is too late) and you may find that a lot of the Windows 8 issues will disappear after the conversion/upgrade.

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#16
March 16, 2016 at 11:11:19
Fingers--

I actually have Win8 on purpose, as I'm not familiar with it at all and figure I should get a little understanding of it in case I run across it at work or something. Win10 seems intuitive by comparison.

Razor--

Nope. No paste, no move files, no deleting. !!!


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#17
March 16, 2016 at 12:30:45
Well, that does tell us something.

From both the Win7 box and the Win8 box, just open a Win10 share. From the Win10 box, right-click the start button, and open Computer Management. From there, go to System Tools -> Shared Folders -> Sessions. Compare the Win7 session to the Win8 session. What do you see?

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#18
March 17, 2016 at 20:15:11
User for both is the same: HomeGroupUser$. Guest for both is the same: No. Type for both is Windows. Connected time, Idle Time, and # Open Files vary.

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#19
March 17, 2016 at 20:50:44
So you are using a homegroup. Kick the Win8 box out of the homegroup, and rejoin using the Win10's configuration.

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#20
April 16, 2016 at 18:19:12
My deepest apologies for dropping off the face of the planet. I didn't forget about this issue or this thread, just had to deal with other priorities.

I took the win8 machine out of the homegroup and rejoined it--N/A. I took it out again, did a complete restart, then rejoined again--Still no joy.

If you kind people are still watching this thread, I await your next instructions.


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