Review Network please

September 1, 2009 at 02:01:48
Specs: Windows Vista
Hi,

I'm planning to network my home since Wireless isn't that great for my needs. I will be using VoIP aswell. I just wanted to make sure all the parts I am going to buy will work and if there is anything I missed. I'm very worried about the face plates, bezels and the keystones. Will they fit? Also the Cat 6 wire, will that go with the keystones? Is the Patch Panel I chose any good? I am buying everything at 4Cabling so you can find everything there if you want a more detailed view. Is the switch I chose any good?

www.4cabling.com.au

1 HP Procurve 1400 24G $140
2 4RU 19" Wall Mount Frame $32
3 1RU 19" Cable Management Rail - 12 Slot $11.50
4 Cat 6 24 Port Patch Panel - Termination Cap $69
5 Cat 6 RJ45 Keystone Jack White 25x $74
6 RJ45 Clipsal Bezel 20x $8
7 0.25m Cat 6 RJ45-RJ45 Network Cables 15x $33
8 5m Cat 6 RJ45-RJ45 Network Cables 5x $29.50
9 Cat 6 LAN Cable with Solid Conductors 305m/box GREY $115
10 1 Way Clipsal Wall Plate $2.50
11 2 Way Clipsal Wall Plate 4x $10
12 4 Way Clipsal Wall Plate $2.50
13 6 Way 1RU 19" Horizontal Power Rail $55
14 Jack Clamp Tool $5.50
15 Cable stripper with 110 IDC Tool $6.50
16 Electronic Tool Kit $60
17 Cable Tool Kit $49.95
Total: $703


Thanks

James


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#1
September 1, 2009 at 10:26:33
I missed. I'm very worried about the face plates, bezels and the keystones

As a rule of thumb, if you buy them all from the same manufacturer, then they will fit together properly. If you're ordering them without being able to pick them up and try them (like you would in a store) then that's the best advice I can give, buy all from the same supplier/manufacturer.

Also the Cat 6 wire, will that go with the keystones?

I see nothing in your supply list to lead me to think they won't. Since you're using Cat6 cable and the keystones are Cat6, they should go together like peas and carrots!


Is the Patch Panel I chose any good?

A patch panel isn't an overly complex device so as long as it's the same spec as your cable (Cat6) then it should be just fine.

Is the switch I chose any good?

For your needs, I'd say it's an excellent choice and should serve you well.

It looks like you have a very complete list of required tools and materials. I'm thinking you discussed all your needs with the supplier. That's a good thing. From what I see, you'll have all you'll need.

I don't know that you will need the following:

16 Electronic Tool Kit $60
17 Cable Tool Kit $49.95

All you really need is stripper and a punchdown tool (item 15 on your list) and a philips head screwdriver to screw down the faceplates. Anything else is likely to be the supplier trying to squeeze a few extra $$$ out of you. If you want to, and I confess I'm curious, you could detail for me the contents of the aforementioned kits and I'll let you know if there's anything there you really need before you make your purchase. Keep in mind, you're not likely to use any of these tools again once your done.

I will add a couple things:

When pulling your cable's, label them. I use a black, permanent marker, and I number them 1, 2, 3, etc. Now generally, when I'm pulling cables, I'm pulling from multiple boxes. If this isn't the case for you, just remember to label both ends the same. I usually start in one corner and work my way around clockwise numbering in order from 1. Then, when you go to punch the patch panel, you do them in order. Cable 1 goes to port 1, cable 2, port 2 and so on until you're done. Take the same black marker and label the faceplate accordingly. Put the number 1 over the keystone of the other end of cable 1 and so on.

Test your cables when you're done. If you don't own a tester, before you think about buying one, call a couple electrical contractors and see what they would charge to test and certify your data connections. A tester worth having will be minimum $1000.00 and I put no faith in those POS blinking light testers. They can't certify and for all intents and purposes are useless. It's worth your time to pay someone to do a proper test/certify.


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#2
September 1, 2009 at 10:53:48
Just FYI, I am a network technician by trade and while pulling cable is the least of my duties, it most certainly is one of them.

I have pulled more cable than I care to think about and here's what I can tell you about my tool kit.

I bought a set of screwdrivers. I have a #4 Robertson (if you live in the US, you'll have no clue what that is, bummer for you cause Robertson is the best to work with and used extensively by electricians here in Canada. A #4 is pretty much the 'standard') 3 different sizes of each Blade and Philips screwdrivers. I have an RJ-45 crimper (used to crimp the ends on cables) and I have a 110 blade punchdown tool as well as a BIX tool. I have a cable stripper. I have a utility knife and a good set of sidecutters. Other than that, I keep a set of needle nose pliers in my kit as well and a set of Allen wrenches.

I bought all those tools separately and while I looked over "network tool kits" and "cable tool kits" I would never waste my $$$ on them as what I've listed above is what I need and use.

We have two good quality cable testers which are both capable of testing AND certifying cables once punched. The expensive one is worth around $10,000.00 and the cheaper one was $2,500.00 and that's why I advised you to:
a) don't put your faith in a cheap POS blinking light tester
and
b) pay a professional electrician to test/certify your connections when you're done.


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#3
September 1, 2009 at 20:56:44
Would it not be easier to use Powerline HomePlugs ??

http://www.homeplugs.com/index.html


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#4
September 1, 2009 at 23:29:41
1 HP Procurve 1400 24G $140
http://www.procurve.com.au/products...
2 4RU 19" Wall Mount Frame $32
http://www.4cabling.com.au/products...
3 1RU 19" Cable Management Rail – 12 Slot $11.50
http://www.4cabling.com.au/products...
4 Cat 6 24 Port Patch Panel – Termination Cap $69
http://www.4cabling.com.au/products...
5 Cat 6 RJ45 Keystone Jack White 25x $74
http://www.4cabling.com.au/products...
6 RJ45 Clipsal Bezel 20x $8
http://www.4cabling.com.au/products...
7 0.25m Cat 6 RJ45-RJ45 Network Cables 15x $33
http://www.4cabling.com.au/products...
8 5m Cat 6 RJ45-RJ45 Network Cables 5x $29.50
http://www.4cabling.com.au/products...
9 Cat 6 LAN Cable with Solid Conductors 305m/box GREY $115
http://www.4cabling.com.au/products...
10 1 Way Clipsal Wall Plate $2.50
http://www.4cabling.com.au/products...
11 2 Way Clipsal Wall Plate 4x $10
http://www.4cabling.com.au/products...
12 4 Way Clipsal Wall Plate $2.50
http://www.4cabling.com.au/products...
13 6 Way 1RU 19" Horizontal Power Rail $55
http://www.4cabling.com.au/products...
14 Jack Clamp Tool $5.50
15 Cable stripper with 110 IDC Tool $6.50
16 Electronic Tool Kit $60
17 Cable Tool Kit $49.95
$703

I guess I`ll call a cabler to fully test my wires. Here are some of the links. Please check them and see if the tools I put down is 100% required and what I will need to perform this operation

ty


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#5
September 2, 2009 at 05:54:22
All you'll need is a cable stripper (strips the casing off the end of the cable exposing the wires so you can punch them down), a punchdown tool, a pair of sidecutters, and a screwdriver.

The hard part is pulling the cables. Once that's done, then you punch the ends of the cables. When you punch, make sure you use the same standard at both ends. If you use the A Standard on the Patch Panel, use A at the keystone.

Call a couple of electrical contractors and get quotes on testing. It's not going to take long, maybe an hour if you've punched all the ends correctly, so it shouldn't be all that expensive. Don't screw the faceplates down until you've tested, that will save you time if you need to fix one or two while the testing is being done.

I'm not sure what the following is: Jack Clamp Tool but I suspect if it is what I think it is, you won't need it. When punching down the keystones I just hold them against the wall with a piece of cardboard between the wall itself and the keystone (so as to not mark up the wall).


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#6
September 2, 2009 at 23:18:48
If I do get around to getting a network install in my home, what do I need to look out for. I`ve seen people say such things as alarms and that will interfere with the network but how. Are there any other things I should watch out for if I end up doing a home network?

i have emailed several cablers and one said that he would supply everything do labour for about $1500. He also stated if I supply the stuff he would do it for $1100. I suppose I should let him get the parts and everything? That way it will match everything and he will buy the right things.

So yeah, anything I should look out for?

Thanks


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#7
September 2, 2009 at 23:43:24
What about a crimp tool?

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#8
September 3, 2009 at 05:53:25
You won't need a crimp tool unless you're planning on making patch cables. So if you are planning on it, or think you might, then by all means buy one of them as well.

If I do get around to getting a network install in my home, what do I need to look out for. I`ve seen people say such things as alarms and that will interfere with the network but how. Are there any other things I should watch out for if I end up doing a home network?

For the most part, you won't have anything in your house that will cause enough interference to be a problem. Just avoid putting the cables too close to any heat sources or on top of lights.

i have emailed several cablers and one said that he would supply everything do labour for about $1500. He also stated if I supply the stuff he would do it for $1100. I suppose I should let him get the parts and everything? That way it will match everything and he will buy the right things.

If you can afford to pay a professional to do it for you, then I'd pay the $1500 and leave everything in his/her hands.

I'm wondering though, what did they quote you to do the testing?


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