new router now two wireless desktops bsod

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December 11, 2010 at 17:19:06
Specs: XP Home, 2ghz / 1gb
Ok so my friend calls me up and asked about getting a new wireless N router " a Netgear " and was asking if his linksys pci cards would work with it. I told him no problem most all routers I know of are backward compatible with G and B wireless.

His computer is wired to this router. His son's is wireless in a room behind it and his mothers is in the apartment immediately next door. Everything was connecting and working but his router would spaz out and need rebooted so he wanted a new one. Now the strange part.. He swapped routers, plugged in his computer to configure the settings and all was good, on his.
He booted up his mom's computer to re configure the wireless for the new router and it started an endless reboot. I told him how to stop that and he kept getting a bsod. He decided to take his son's computer over to his mom's and let her use it only to turn it on and it got a bsod too. Now he calls me up asking what to do. I went over to his house and by that time his mom's computer is connected again and this time running but with hardware issue. I look and it's the wireless card. I download a new driver on his, copy it to hers and as soon as it's done loading an instant bsod. This continues on till I boot up last known good config and remove the wireless card. Now it runs without issue but minus the wireless. So his mom was complaining saying it was fine before the router and I'm thinkin yea right. So I boot up his son's computer and out of curiosity I uninstall the wireless card from it and remove it. Now this computer runs fine again. Try to install it and yes you guessed it bsod.

This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. What could possibly cause two different computers, formerly connected wireless to both start bsod when trying to connect to a new wireless router? Both are XP home, around the same specs except one is a dell and other is a compaq.

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#1
December 11, 2010 at 17:28:01
So no netgear cd was run, no software installed, just bring up the wireless interface, find the new network and put in the passphrase to get on the internet. Right?

Only other thing I can think of is these pcs are part of a botnet and being off the grid has made the gremlins mad.

If you hookup to the old router does everything go back to normal?

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#2
December 11, 2010 at 17:28:07
First let's go back to the term "spaz out". What did he mean by that? What was happening that he wanted a new router in the first place?

In the meantime, if you can get them to boot, look for error messages in the event viewer.

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#3
December 11, 2010 at 17:34:46
Is this a draft n router or is it the ratified n router? By n I mean 802.11n.

Router manufacturers in their rush to get the n class routers out to customers took a guess at what the standards would be like and hoped that once the n standard was ratified they could issue a firmware update.

This did not go so smoothly. So you have n class routers out there some of which are working to a draft n standard and some to the fully ratified n standard.

At a guess it could be this that might be causing backward compatibility issues with different manufacturers adapters being used with the router.

I do not know what the solution could be other than using same manufacturer adapters.

wanderers points are also worth looking into.

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#4
December 12, 2010 at 09:51:18
Only computer he did anything on was his desktop which was wired into the router. Other computers didn't even get a chance. maybe there was some virus shared on his network ?

he got a new router because his old one would drag down to a crawl " like you were on dialup" and he would have to unplug it and plug back in to speed it up. Funny thing is my l router does the same thing. Mine only does it like once a month, his was almost daily. I just unplug my router, count to 10 and plug back in and it's good to go. I use WEP security with hidden bssid. I know he has a wireless password setup but as to his exact specs i'm not sure. i was thinking on getting myself a new router but not if this is what i can expect.

MSI K8N Neo
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.21ghz
1.5GB DDR 3200
nVidia N6600 256mb video
Segate 500 gig sata
NEC ND-3500AG DVD R/RW


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#5
December 12, 2010 at 11:42:50
http://forums.techguy.org/networkin...

There is someone with a similar problem.

Is there a Westell modem involved?

Did you look at the event viewer?

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#6
December 13, 2010 at 15:14:37
Funny you mention a Westell modem lol I have one and had wondered that myself. My friend has a Comcast modem but not sure what kind.

I can't say I even know what the event viewer is.

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#7
December 13, 2010 at 17:06:22
Click start, run, type eventvwr & press enter. You'll see some log files. Look for errors.

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