Networking 2 computers

Telus/ sierra / 3g+
June 8, 2010 at 22:16:59
Specs: Windows 7
I just bought a mobile internet stick from Telus. It is the 3G+ stick by sierra. It connects using sierra wireless watcher. I am using this to connect to the internet. The problem is that I also have a network with a dlink router - that I use for file sharing and wireless printing. In order to get the 3g+ connect to work I need to disconnect from my dlink network. Then if I want to print somethiing off the internet I need to reconnect, print one page and then disconnect again before I can go to a new page. Is there any other way to do this. It is not like I want two internet conections. The router network is not used for sharing internet. There must be a better way to work around this then connnecting and disconnecting all of the time. I have machines that are running xp, vista and 7.

Thanks


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#1
June 9, 2010 at 11:13:42
Do you have two separate Internet connections? From your
post, I’m assuming you do not. I’m wondering if you had the D-Link attached to DSL or Cable
Internet at one time?

The simplest thing you could do is connect everything to the
D-Link router, then connect to DSL/Cable Internet. Since you
have both the Sierra and the D-Link, you CAN and should be able to attach to both at the same time. The Sierra wireless device connects to one network, which is a WiFi 3G/4G network for Internet. Then the other 802.11 wireless device in your PC/laptop connects to the 802.11 (a,b,g or n) D-Link router. 3G and 802.11 are different types of
WiFi.

Another alternative is to possibly use a MIFI. Not sure if that’s
available from Sierra or not. A MIFI acts like a 3G WiFi
hotspot which will connect to the Internet over 3G wireless,
then serve out 802.11 WiFi connections to other 802.11
wireless devices like the D-Link router and 802.11 WiFi on a
laptop.

Just another stupid saying...


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#2
June 9, 2010 at 11:38:02
Assuming your pcs are getting their lan ips from the router, configure the routers dhcp scope to not include a gateway entry.

Then both will work


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#3
June 9, 2010 at 13:54:39
I am not using the dlink to connect to any kind of internet - there is no dsl or cable internet available where I live. I only have a basic knowledge of networking. How would I configure routers dhcp scope to not include a gateway entry?

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#4
June 9, 2010 at 13:56:50
@keirzna, you'd need to log into your router to change that, though, I'm not sure if that will make a difference though. If you don't have the manual, look it up online on DLINKs website.

Just another stupid saying...


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#5
June 9, 2010 at 14:06:51
If keizerna is using dhcp from the router, despite it not having internet access, and that dhcp server is providing a gateway address, this will conflict with the 3G gateway. Another scenerio is if both interfaces are in the same ip range.

To make sure we are on the same page keizerna
post the results of an ipconfig /all with both interfaces enabled

To do a ipconfig /all do the following

go to a cmd prompt by going to RUN and type CMD then hit enter.
At the command prompt type;
ipconfig /all >c:\test.txt
then hit enter.
now type exit so you exit cmd box.
Browse to c:\ and opent test.txt
Select all the contents and paste it into a post here


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#6
June 9, 2010 at 17:15:06

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Admin-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Mobile Broadband adapter Mobile Broadband Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Sierra Wireless HSPA Network Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-D5-FF-FF-AE
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.138.54.62(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 209.91.107.11
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.91.107.11
209.121.225.11
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 43225 802.11b/g/n
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C4-17-FE-4D-ED-68
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::64ee:f466:ea01:fc0a%17(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.103(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : June-09-10 5:43:35 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : June-16-10 5:57:19 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 381949950
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-13-01-8F-82-C8-0A-A9-07-58-75
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.{E51B85F5-97EF-417B-A098-40A084161983}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft 6to4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{11E8BA15-A3EA-47B5-9CCA-87E281893F21}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Teredo Tunneling Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes


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#7
June 9, 2010 at 17:27:30
Keirzna,

What PC runs the Sierra 3G card an what Operating System
is on that PC?

How is your printer(s) configured for sharing? Is it attached via
a USB/Parallel cable to a PC and then shared with Windows
File & Print sharing or do you have a print server attached to it
or does it have an On board Ethernet or wireless connection in
that printer(s)?

Just another stupid saying...


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#8
June 9, 2010 at 18:10:57
How is this for complicated. I actually have three computers that use the Sierra 3G+ internet key. XP, Vista and Windows 7. Right now I have the key on windows 7. The Dlink is hooked to the XP desktop. The printer has an on board wireless connection. It is not physically connected to any computer.

Thanks for trying to help with this.


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#9
June 9, 2010 at 20:11:33
Keirzna,

3 PCs with 3 Sierra 3G cards or just 1 card? If you only have 1 Sierra card, then do need the MIFI! That, or have one PC dedicated as the Sierra PC and set up ICS on it to share the Internet out on the other 2 PCs over the D-Link network. If you do that, you should set the D-Link router to “Router” setting instead of “Gateway” setting as well in its configuration.

Since the D-Link router isn't connected to an Internet connection, the default Gateway value will probably be zeroed out (0.0.0.0.) in the router configuration. I did a test here with an extra LinkSys WiFi 802.11b router I have, and that WAS the case. But, when your PCs get an IP address from the DHCP enabled D-Link router (DHCP is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol), DHCP WILL set the router as the Gateway address in the Windows client PCs IP configurations. Depending on how many Sierra cards you have, assuming that you only have just one, in the main Windows 7 PC that runs the Sierra 3G card (as of now), I think you might want to try to set up a static IP in the Windows 7 LAN network card that connects to the D-Link network. That static IP will be in the IP range of the D-link router (probably 192.168.1.1 – 150), then take out the default gateway in that TCP/IP configuration and test an Internet print page to the wireless printer to see if works.


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#10
June 9, 2010 at 21:35:08
3 pcs 1 air card, but i just move the air card to whatever pc I want connected to the internet. I don't need more than one connected at anytime. There is no need to share the internet connection.

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#11
June 9, 2010 at 21:48:45
I think you might want to try to set up a static IP in the Windows 7 LAN network card that connects to the D-Link network. That static IP will be in the IP range of the D-link router (probably 192.168.1.1 – 150), then take out the default gateway in that TCP/IP configuration and test an Internet print page to the wireless printer to see if works.

Could you give me a bit more direction on how to do this? I am not an expert at networking - obviously and am also new to Window 7.

Thanks


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#12
June 9, 2010 at 21:50:06
Should I log into the router and change it to static ip?

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#13
June 9, 2010 at 22:11:14
Maybe it is time for a new modem. I am looking into this on - http://www.cradlepoint.com/products...

Do you think that might solve my problem?


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#14
June 10, 2010 at 07:48:05
I think this is being made to be too complicated.

All you have to do keizerna is simply remove this entry from the routers dhcp server.

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

no other changes required. Can you logon to your router via http://192.168.0.1?


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#15
June 10, 2010 at 10:05:56
@wanderer,

Actually, that may not work depending on his D-Link device.
He may have to set the D-Link as a "Router" vs. a "Gateway"
in the D-Link configuration. Then he'll have to assign static IPs
to his 3 PCs and his wireless printer.

Since the D-Link router isn't connected to an Internet
connection, the default Gateway value will probably be zeroed
out (0.0.0.0.) in the router configuration (as my test LinkSys
router device was). But when networked devices get an IP
address from DHCP, it will set the Gateway address (which is the routers address) in the
Windows client PCs IP configurations. I did a test here with
an extra LinkSys WiFi 802.11b router I have, and that WAS
the case. But, MY test PCs here connected to this LinkSys
only get an IP address from DHCP when the “Gateway”
setting is used. When the “Router” setting is used DHCP
doesn’t work, and a static IP needs to be assigned (not sure
if the router is flaky, or if that is supposed to happen).

Just another stupid saying...


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#16
June 10, 2010 at 10:10:44
Keizerna,

What's the Model no. of the D-Link?

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#17
June 10, 2010 at 10:34:08
PC Geek it appears to me you are overanalyzing.

What happens on the wan side of the router has no effect on the lan side. If it did the time tested method of turning a wireless router into a wireless AP switch [http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1080]
wouldn't work.

What I suggested has worked many times before. It's all about the KISS principle.
This is a simple matter of properly configuring the dlink's dhcp server. No static ips on the pcs required.


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#18
June 10, 2010 at 11:21:32
I am talking about the LAN side, the D-Link isn't connected to
the Internet.

It might sound like I'm overanalyzing, but I did an actual test here
on a wireless laptop PC connected to a Netgear router -
connected to Internet. I then also connected via LAN cable to the
LinkSys router. And what I posted is what occurred is all I'm
saying.

Just another stupid saying...


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#19
June 10, 2010 at 12:51:44
keizerna
We still need to know if you can logon to your router via http://192.168.0.1?

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#20
June 10, 2010 at 13:54:20
RE: "KISS"...I couldn't agree more.

Just another stupid saying...


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#21
June 10, 2010 at 20:57:20
Thank you so much for all of you help and suggestions. I finally found a work around. I was able to keep my dlink network the way it was and change the sierra USB key to look like a dial up connection. I called Telus and they had no idea that it could be done this way - the guy had to check with his boss and his boss was like - oh yeah that is excatly how to fix that. I sure wish that the first tech guy I had talk to awhile ago would have known about this.

Thanks again for all of you time and suggestions.


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#22
June 11, 2010 at 06:42:00
That solution has nothing to do with your issue. All you have done in effect is disable the interface until you want to use it. This doesn't address your two gateway issue. Best of luck!

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#23
December 21, 2010 at 12:08:01
Hi,

I have a similar question as the original post but with a slight variation. I'm trying to use the Windows Internet Connection Sharing service so that atleast 2 pcs can share the same internet connection via a Mobile internet key, where the second pc is wireless connected to the first pc (which has the mobile internet key connected) via a dlink router.

Summary of components
TELUS Mobile Internet Key (Huaweii HSPA USB)
Desktop PC 1 (AKA DT1) with internet key connected, running windows xp
Desktop PC 2 (AKA DT2) connected wirelessly to wireless dlink router, running windows xp
Dlink (DIR 615) wireless router, dlink ip is 192.168.1.11

Here is the setup i'm trying to achieve:

TELUS Mobile Internet Key (Huaweii HSPA USB) <-> Desktop PC with Win XP and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) enabled <-> DT1wired connection to dlink router <-> DT2 wireless connection via dlink router

Here is what I've been able to do so far:

i) ensured that both DT1 and DT2 (desktop PCs) are on the same WORKGROUP and they can share files between each other (both computers can ping each other and DT1can ping www.google.ca for example)
ii) enabled ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) on DT1
iii) enabled dhcp on the dlink - i have verified that both DT1 and DT2 is getting an IP address ; however, only DT1 can connect to the WWW, and DT2 cannot</li>
iv) i've also tried disabling dhcp on the dlink and assigning static IPs to DT1 and DT2 and setting the default gateway on DT2 to "blank". However, when I run an ipconfig /all, here is what i see:

IPCONFIG FOR DT1:
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HUAWEI Mobile Connect - 3G Network C
ard
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-10-1F-E9-48
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.138.247.245
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.252
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.138.247.246
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.138.247.246
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.91.107.11
209.121.225.11
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 12:10:47
PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:10:47 P
M

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-47-75-75-70
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

IPCONFIG FOR DT2:
Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100 AGN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-FA-5B-FF-44
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5872:912e:eec7:602d%11(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.4(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::224:1ff:fe42:c99c%11
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{D49AF659-D8A5-4962-9995-0FFE90501093}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

THE PROBLEM
-DT1 (which has the internet key plugged in) is able to connect to the WWW , but DT2 is not

Thanks very much for any help/suggestions!


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