Solved Need to have WiFi in garage 150 feet from existing router

January 25, 2014 at 10:26:22
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Need to add wifi to next door Garage 150 feet away.
Hi there, I recently moved into a loft above a garage and the owner has included Wifi in my rental fee. He has a Berlin router in the main house about 140-150 feet away. I have 150 feet of cat 5 wire and will run the wire from loft to his router. What do I need to buy to accomplish this task. There are so many posts on this topic and I feel as though you know what you are doing. Cold you give me advice as to how to do this. I would be willing to pay of necassary as I am exceeding my data rate on both IPad and IPhone. I have a Apple time capsule ( the newest one) at the loft. He had a Belkin router in the main house. It is a direct line of site from his location to mine. I am quite techie as I have a Smarthome business. www.audio-videospecialists.com. Thanks for your help.

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#1
January 25, 2014 at 21:57:40
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You'll need outdoor grade cable.

When measuring how much you'll need trace and measure the exact path (or as close as you can get to it) as it will not be a straight shot from A to B. Do not exceed the maximum segment length. In fact, I'd recommend not exceeding 85% of the maximum. I've found over 85% and you start to get attenuation.

I would recommend burying it inside some conduit. There are several varieties of plastic (PVC) products that will work for this.

You will want a SOHO Router at your end and if you want wifi in your loft, one that's wireless capable.

You'll need RJ45 ends (more than just two, chances are if you've never done it before you'll screw at least one up....maybe more) and a crimper. Also, you'll need to know either the A or B wiring standard (easily found on the web) and you'll want to test it too. Oh, and those blinking light testers are useless. I've seen those crappy things blink green on a cable that didn't work. Borrow a real tester if you can (test/certify) or just hire a professional to put the ends on and test it for you.

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#2
January 25, 2014 at 22:17:33
Hi there and thank you very much for responding.
My questions are: can I just plug the Cat 6/5 wire into one of his belkin router ports and then plug it into the SoHo router in my loft and can I then go to the apple time capsule I paid so much money for. I dont need a switch or some other item?
Thanks again or responding.
Frederic

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#3
January 26, 2014 at 02:17:25
Yes just plug the Cat5 into one of the Belkin router LAN ports and the other end into your SOHO router,

The problem you are likely to encounter is in configuring the SOHO router. You will need to disable DHCP on the router and configure the wi-fi with password and encryption method. you will also need to set the routers IP address to the same subnet as the Belkin router outside of the DHCP scope of the Bellkin router assuming it is using DHCP. This is usually done by temporary plugging in a computer via a wired connection. You may be able to borrow a laptop for this.

Configuring a wi-fi router with a wi-fi device while not impossible, is extremely difficult as you will lose connection as soon as you change anything.

Stuart

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#4
January 26, 2014 at 07:23:00
One possibility - that may work… If the garage has mains wiring (likely it has) and the fuse-box (cct. breakers) for it and the building you're in are in same location - ideally sharing the same box) then you may be able to use LAN over mains adapters. These are the devices that carry LAN around the building using installed mains wiring. Some allow cat-5/ethernet connections only, some wifi, and possibly some allow both. They are used increasingly to extend LAN services - cat-5 and wifi.

The advantage of this approach is that you don't need to run any cables!

Where are you located - USA/Canada, or UK (even Europe - somewhere off the east of Britain…)? There are different makes/models of these adapters available depending on where you are.


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#5
January 26, 2014 at 07:40:42
Thank you folks do much once again. It s so difficult trying to figure out these things even though I own a smart home business.
Questions once again:
The loft s on a separate electric meter that the main house but thanks for the suggestion.
Can I use my Apple Time capsule as just a back up device and plug it into the SoHo router. I am not too savvy on the setup. Could you email me a more in depth explanation of the setup. I would be willing to compensate you for your advice.
And is there a way for us to chat once I start the installation. I
have to do this ASAP as I am incurring additional charges on my AT&T bill because I am going over my data allotment.
I have a store caled Micro Center located in the area, might they carry the item?
Thank you once again for your greatly appreciated help.

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#6
January 26, 2014 at 07:44:49
Edit your post 5 above and remove your email address. "Never' post an active/valid email address in "any" forum. To do so is to invite unlimited spamming, spoofing and heaven only knows what other irritations and pests… Not being a Moderator I can't delete it; but hopefully one of them will see this (sooner than later) and delete the email address info.

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#7
January 26, 2014 at 07:52:34
In effect you're looking to extend range of your LAN using either cat-5e at least - as it's better quality performance than cat5; if pennies allowed even cat 6; or possibly wifi.

This link covers the basic qualities of the assorted cables:

http://www.cableorganizer.com/artic...

This is one "how to wire up link" - amongst many "out there"…

http://lifehacker.com/how-to-wire-y...

You could also likely achieve what you want using wifi - no cabling involved...


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#8
January 26, 2014 at 08:07:19
My apologies,
I have removed my email for the previous post. Thanks for the help.
I will purchase the equipment and post again.
Thank you...
Fred

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#9
January 26, 2014 at 08:10:36
Thanks, the problem with power line is that the Loft is on its own meter panel and breakers. I will purchase the So Ho router as I already have 150 feet of Cat6/5 wire with terminations on both ends. I will probably need more advice in hooking up the equipment once I have it installed.
Thank you again.

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#10
January 26, 2014 at 08:13:54
The setting up of a router differs sightly for each model. When you get your router it will comes with a manual with instruction how to set these things up. They are not difficult to follow at all.

Any instructions anywhere here were to give you would just be repeating what is in the manual.

150 feet might be a far for reliable wi-fi unless you want to go to the expense of setting up directional antennas.

Stuart


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#11
January 26, 2014 at 08:20:39
mmm - good point re' wifi range… Cat5e/cat6 likely the better choice

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#12
January 26, 2014 at 08:22:42
Thanks again,
I might approach the people in charge( the owner is in a coma in the ospital)
and ask if I can get a separate cable line installed. They change $49.00 per month for additional cable modem line to be hooked up. The original thought was to try and work off his box but maybe the length and the hassle wouldn't be worth it. I could still use his cable for TV. They have included the cable in Wifi in the rent. Pretty good deal for what I'm paying.
Thanks again for all your advice.

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#13
January 26, 2014 at 08:48:59
If you can cover/afford the monthly cost of your own separate line in I would opt for that; much better overall?

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#14
January 26, 2014 at 08:58:46
Thanks again so very much.
I will approach the people in charge and pose the question to them.
Thanks to all for your kindness.
Respectfully,
Frederic

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#15
February 28, 2014 at 17:37:14
I have a similar setup in which I just flashed a old Linksys WRT54G router with DD-WRT and created a wireless bridge / repeater. It captures the wireless G signal from my house and rebroadcast's it in my garage on another property I own. I can also connect wired devices to the routers wired ports.

There's a lot of reading involved in flashing the router and setting it up but it's super cheap and I have done dozens of them since then as the old routers are easy to find.

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#16
March 1, 2014 at 03:14:44
ludedude25:

Out of interest.. What were/are the distances you had to deal with when setting up your bridge/repeater? As there is obviously a limit (as pointed out in post 10) to stable and reliable signal/range?


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