Solved Need Stable Wireless Adapter for Gaming

November 27, 2013 at 03:51:49
Specs: Windows 8, i7 4770k/16gb
http://www.computing.net/answers/ne...


I stumbled upon the above post today and it's too old to post a reply. But even in 2013 November, this information contradicts every other website I've visited like tomshardware and overclock. My question is whether this information is true? If so, I would be so glad because that means I don't have to worry about the bad reviews and the prices since all the bad reviews must 1) either have outdated drivers or 2) wifi would not work for them no matter what other brand they purchased.

If it were true, it also means that PCI or USB makes no difference, and those huge usb wireless adapters as big as a router with flashing lights work exactly the same as the small USB sized ones! There is no difference in performance despite the enormous difference in appearance, and you don't have to bother with the trouble of installing a PCI. Also, does usb 3.0 and 2.0 port matter (something else I read), or is there no difference after all?

Here is the post I am referring to:
Curt R
"We're not talking about video cards here dude. We're talking about network interfaces. One is no better than the other in the sense you're thinking of which applies to video cards, but not network interfaces.

100 Mbps is the same regardless of brand name. The same is true for 1000 Mbps.

There's a term frequently used in computing with regard to hardware and it is "Standardization"

Standardization allows for the interoperability of devices regardless of manufacturer. Ergo a D-Link will work with a Linksys and so on ad infinitum. This is irrespective of the operating system be it 32 bit or 64.

You're trying to ascertain if a D-Link (or whatever brand) will outperform a Linksys (or whatever brand name) and it just doesn't work that way for network equipment as it does when comparing video cards or CPU's. Whatever brand you buy is going to work as well as any other comprarable device of the same specs. If you can't figure that out and don't want to believe me there's not much I can do about that."

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November 27, 2013 at 07:17:49
A PCI device is a card that fits into an "expansion slot" in the back of your computer. The card will plug directly into a PCI slot in the motherboard. To install it, you have to open the case and go inside it.

On the other hand, a USB device will plug into a USB port somewhere on your computer....the side, the back, the front or on top (My main gaming PC has USB ports front/back & top).

So essential differences are, PCI plugs directly into motherboard, USB does not.

Certainly there are differences in performance. I don't know the speeds of the different types of devices offhand, but that's easily found out. You can google the spec's on USB 2.0/30 and PCI as easily as I can.

I have a small USB wired interface on my desktop computer at work. It only has three PCI expansion slots two of which already have NIC's (network interface cards) in them. The third has a video card. I needed a third network adapter so I got a USB one. It works just fine.

I imagine a USB wireless network adapter would work just fine too.

The USB adapter you describe as being the size of a router probably is a router. At least, I have no experience of a wireless adapter that size. All the ones I've seen are the size of a USB memory stick.

All I can tell you is the same thing I've mentioned to many others. Shop around. Compare prices and read reviews on equipment before deciding what to buy. Also, stick to known (proven) brand names like D-Link, Cisco/Linksys etc

It matters not how straight the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

***William Henley***



#1
November 27, 2013 at 05:12:09
It's best to use a wired connection if you want a stable connection and the best possible speed that's available in your house, especially for online gaming.

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#2
November 27, 2013 at 05:19:02
Thanks, but just like everyone else looking for wireless options, a wired connection is impossible for me. If only I could... :p

Currently I'm looking at these products:
-TRENDnet 450MBPS Dual Band Wireless N USB Adapter 802.11B/G/N & Gigabit Port
-Amped Wireless High Power Wireless-300N 600mW USB Adapter (UA600-CA)
-TP-Link TL-WDN4800 450MBPS Dual-Band Wireless N PCI-E Adapter Atheros 3T3R 2.4/5GHZ 802 11A/B/G/N

So does PCI-E make a difference or are they all the same like that quote I gave in my first post?

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#3
November 27, 2013 at 05:21:57
I agree with Phill. Stable, wireless and gaming are not words that should appear in the same sentence together.

Stuart


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#4
November 27, 2013 at 05:25:08
Yes, what I said about "standardization" in hardware is true.

What I said does not contradict anything I know of. Feel free to provide some links to this contradictory information of which you speak.

I think the real issue here is your lack of understanding.

USB and PCI connect differently to your computer. A 100 Mbps USB adapter should transfer data across the network at the same rate as a 100 Mbps PCI card. The difference is how the devices connect to the computer..........not the network. Both connect to the network using an RJ45 connector.

This is like comparing a SATA and a PATA hard drive. They're the same devices and if you get two that are identical in read/write speed and rpm's, they still connect differently to the computer.

I would be so glad because that means I don't have to worry about the bad reviews and the prices since all the bad reviews must 1) either have outdated drivers or 2) wifi would not work for them no matter what other brand they purchased.

I've never said anything like the above and have no clue where you came up with that. Again, I think the real problem here is you do not understand anything about hardware and we're not here to educate you. We're here to help people. You need to go do some reading and research on hardware so you understand. Then all will make sense.

Now, do you have an actual networking issue with which you need help?

It matters not how straight the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

***William Henley***


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#5
November 27, 2013 at 06:28:06
Sorry if I misunderstood. While I am able to read, I am bad with computer terminology. Getting through an article not written in layman's language would be harder than reading through a legal philosophy book for me. Take people who are bad at math, they do not have trouble reading the problems and solutions, yet they still cannot understand. So if you are understanding, then yes I do need help similar to how a lost math student would need help. And I'm very sure that my topic is only an extension to a 2012 January thread so I assumed it was an appropriate topic. Sorry if it wasn't allowed.

Now after reading your post, I obviously had misinterpreted what you said and I'm sure I'm still confused. What I was asking for clarification for was whether there was a difference between a wireless adapter in the form of a USB stick vs those usb adapters that are as big as routers if they both say, for example 300mbps wireless-n adapter, etc. EDIT: or more precisely if neither product was a defect, would a 2 star average rated product on newegg work the same as a 5 star.

The reason I interpreted it that way was because the old thread was asking which wireless adapter is most reliable and you replied there is no difference. So after reading that I thought good, "That means I don't have to worry about the bad reviews and the prices since all the bad reviews must 1) either have outdated drivers or 2) wifi would not work for them no matter what other brand they purchased" since you replied that no one brand works differently than the other.

If I have interpreted all wrong, just assume that to me this is hard math. And my question is actually the same as the old thread just an extension, so again I assumed that this was an appropriate question to make a thread on based on precedence.

EDIT: I didn't say what you said contradict anything you knew of. I said that it contradicted things I read. Forum links which I have forgotten cannot be provided, but the logic applies to reviews in sites like amazon, newegg, ncix, etc. What you said contradicted what they said because they say that this certain product or brand works better/worse than another, if i understood you correctly that is.

And as far as contradiction goes, different sites contradict different sites, with one saying usb is better and another saying pci is better, and then anther saying pci-e is best. I imagine the only way for a newbie to learn is to buy a book on networking... since everyone says something different on the internet.

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#6
November 27, 2013 at 06:42:08
USB and PCI connect differently to your computer. A 100 Mbps USB adapter should transfer data across the network at the same rate as a 100 Mbps PCI card. The difference is how the devices connect to the computer..........not the network. Both connect to the network using an RJ45 connector.

While I don't fully understand why they are different, at least I now know that they ARE different after reading this compared to before when I thought they might be the same. So does the difference between how they connect to the computer impact any performance? Thanks.


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November 27, 2013 at 07:17:49
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A PCI device is a card that fits into an "expansion slot" in the back of your computer. The card will plug directly into a PCI slot in the motherboard. To install it, you have to open the case and go inside it.

On the other hand, a USB device will plug into a USB port somewhere on your computer....the side, the back, the front or on top (My main gaming PC has USB ports front/back & top).

So essential differences are, PCI plugs directly into motherboard, USB does not.

Certainly there are differences in performance. I don't know the speeds of the different types of devices offhand, but that's easily found out. You can google the spec's on USB 2.0/30 and PCI as easily as I can.

I have a small USB wired interface on my desktop computer at work. It only has three PCI expansion slots two of which already have NIC's (network interface cards) in them. The third has a video card. I needed a third network adapter so I got a USB one. It works just fine.

I imagine a USB wireless network adapter would work just fine too.

The USB adapter you describe as being the size of a router probably is a router. At least, I have no experience of a wireless adapter that size. All the ones I've seen are the size of a USB memory stick.

All I can tell you is the same thing I've mentioned to many others. Shop around. Compare prices and read reviews on equipment before deciding what to buy. Also, stick to known (proven) brand names like D-Link, Cisco/Linksys etc

It matters not how straight the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

***William Henley***


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#8
November 27, 2013 at 19:50:41
Thanks for giving an explanation. I'll try googling the specs.

Just to give you an idea of what I'm talking about are some links. I'm not sure if their dimensions are as large as routers but looking at the images in any one of these links they seem to be.

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...


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#9
November 27, 2013 at 20:34:30
I punched in all the key words in google as you suggested and it led me to my answer for a good adapter and good price too for all the positive reviews.

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#10
November 28, 2013 at 07:07:29
That's good to hear.

Happy computing!

It matters not how straight the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

***William Henley***


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