IP but no internet

Sony Crash bash (psx)
December 20, 2009 at 11:43:37
Specs: wXP, n/a
I'm having this problem:
I have

- 1 router
- 1 wired computer (XP)
- 2 wireless computers (XP and W98)
- 1 PSC (printer scanner copier) with wireless connection

Problem is this: The Windows98 computer does not get used often, but when it does, I always seem to have issues. I cannot get internet connection, although I have IP.

And when I have internet connection on the Windows 98 computer, I suddenly get no internet connection anymore on my regular XP computer, which normally never has this issue.

So, I think this is an IP-lease issue.

My router is 192.168.2.1, my printer gets 192.168.2.2, and the other ones switch between 192.168.2.3 and 192.168.2.4 and possibly others.

For THIS moment, my XP is not working anymore, and I see it having IP 169.254.something.something

Question :
- What is happening ?
- Why don't I have internet, while having an IP address ? The IP is not fixed, so if I get one given ... I should have internet, right ?


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#1
December 20, 2009 at 12:07:09
Try static IP & DNS addresses. It's a small network & it's not a lot of work to assign them. If the 98 machine is still causing problems, it might be time to retire it.

How do you know when a politician is lying? His mouth is moving.


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#2
December 20, 2009 at 13:42:08
The 169.254.xxx.xxx IP that you XP machine is showing is a self-generated IP that happens when the machine is unable to find a DHCP server. Somehow when you boot up the 98 machine it is interfering with the XP's connection to the router.
Is it the wired or wireless XP machine that drops it's connection?
Have you logged into your router's Admin interface to see what is going on ?

Goin' Fishin' (Some day)


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#3
December 22, 2009 at 03:48:12
I was thinking on retiring it, since I started it up lately, after a very long time, and noticed it's a pain in the _ss to work with, compared with XP.
I did a complete re-install of the OS, and even then it behaves like crap:

- rebooting almost never works (always hangs somewhere)
- the command line interface is really limited
- network setup : never saw these kind of issues on any XP
- USB drives are not detected
- the CD of my video drivers just errors out when installing, running 640x480 with 16 colors

Saw this behaviour : boot up PC, all works (IP is good and internet connection works), restart PC (just one minute later), IP address is still the same, all internet connection is lost !


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#4
December 22, 2009 at 03:51:58
> Is it the wired or wireless XP machine that drops it's
> connection?

It's the wired one that gets its connection lost, when I use the Windows98 machine

> Have you logged into your router's Admin interface
> to see what is going on ?
>

Not really, but I did one time get a message (on the W98) that there are conflicting IP addresses based on MAC address. I don't understand how the router would cause that, since that is virtually one of the few things he should do.


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#5
December 22, 2009 at 05:53:01
Sometimes you just have to let things go. 98 has outlived it's usefulness.

How do you know when a politician is lying? His mouth is moving.


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#6
December 22, 2009 at 08:29:49
appears 98 has a static ip which is causing the conflict. set it to do dhcp

to confirm configurations do a winipcfg on the 98 machine and a ipconfig on a xp machine then post the results


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#7
December 22, 2009 at 15:42:04
Or give it a different static IP.

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#8
December 23, 2009 at 11:39:33
It appeared that the router has a range of IP's to give, and it was running out, since I added a printer with WiFi ...
I still don't get why I was given an IP address, by that same router, when he was seeing there was none available anymore.

I don't like to use static IP's in this network, since the router basically has this job to do, so why bother ?


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#9
December 23, 2009 at 11:42:13
> Sometimes you just have to let things go. 98 has
> outlived it's usefulness.

I do agree with that, please send me an XP serial on my email-adress, and some memory, ... and a faster CPU, and I'll stop ;)

Then again, computing.net seems to support this platform, and even people be active in there, then saying to switch to another, is a bit ... well.


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#10
December 23, 2009 at 14:09:03
You said that you already have 2 XP boxes, so why do you need an XP serial & a faster CPU to stop using 98? Just remove the HD & carry the box to the garbage.

How do you know when a politician is lying? His mouth is moving.


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#11
December 23, 2009 at 15:14:46
1. A serial number can have limitations, like the number of computers, or the type (brand), you can legally install the software on.

2. Get lost.


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#12
December 23, 2009 at 18:03:53
I don't think he really wanted a serial. I thought he was being sarcastic, saying that he wanted me to provide all the things he would need to upgrade the machine, before he would consider not using 98.

For some reason people get bent out of shape when I tell them that their stuff is ancient & worthless. Someone in another forum told me I was "good for nothing" because his machine was "precious" to him, since that was all he could afford but that's not the case here. The owner has a small network & 98 isn't needed.

How do you know when a politician is lying? His mouth is moving.


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#13
December 24, 2009 at 08:17:18
"carry the box to the garbage. "

Not legal to do these days. Recycle so we don't put mercury etc in our landfills/water supplies


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#14
December 24, 2009 at 13:45:24
The E-cycle people come here about twice a year. I'm not waiting.

How do you know when a politician is lying? His mouth is moving.


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#15
January 3, 2010 at 09:26:23
Don't worry, I've bought myself an XP license for that Win98 machine. Doesn't all matter a lot, because the error was in the router anyway, but with all machines on Windows XP, it'll be easier to manage, since they're equal now. Not sure the machine will run smooth, but it does comply with min. specs for XP ...

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