Well as an update..
I do have it working on the LAN 192.168 etc and sometimes on the web. 123.243 etc
It seems that it does ONLY work with Active X so I am stuck with IE.
I noticed that the DVR login did not come nup and it was just blank until one day a 'Save' panel came up with the unsigned script from Shenshem Giec Electronics. It was DVROCX_CAB.
Once that was saved and run I am able to get to the web although it does not worl all the time.
It is quite frustrating because when i want it to work on demand it doesn't.
Not sure why that would be as nit does work sometimes, but obnly with IE.
The mobile to phone and iPad is another thing. I have the port as default as 100.
Also sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't.
Then when it does I only get 4 of the 8 cams.
Would like as explanation for the if anyone knows.