An issue with WEP

December 7, 2009 at 18:08:38
Specs: Windows Vista
I don't really know quite how to describe this, or if this is completely the right forum, so I apologise if its not.

Basically, I use my friends router to connect to the internet (they live next door to me) but they don't know the WEP password for it, they use the passcode (on the bottom of the router) the router is called something like "BTVOYAGER2110-09". Now for my computer I use a NETGEAR to connect to routers, and mine doesn't let me use that passcode. So basically I usually borrow my friends laptop (im using it right now) to go online but its not really ideal, since I can't download stuff and such.

So basically what I'm asking is, I go to wireless network connections on this laptop, and under security there is a WEP password (but its encrypted obviously), is there anyway of finding out that WEP password? I'm not trying to hack anyone else's connection or anything, I'm trying to figure out the WEP on the laptop im using right now.

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December 7, 2009 at 18:20:36
You will find this information in the routes wireless settings of the router, you want to connect to.

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December 7, 2009 at 18:46:23
I though that yea, but I'm not entirely sure how to check those settings, there wireless is basically in the corner of the house (by the phone) not connected to any computer. There is no desktop comp in there house, they've got like 4 different laptops for each person. I asked my friends dad and he said they didn't know what it was.

Is there no way of checking it through the comp I'm using now?

Thanks alot in advance (and for the reply to begin with! :))

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December 7, 2009 at 18:47:43
Erm by wireless I meant router >.<

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December 7, 2009 at 19:05:38
There is really only one way to legitimately find out a WEP password and that is to ask the person that set it in the first place. The WEP password is only stored in the computer in an encrypted format.

If the owner of the router does not know the password they only option is for them to do a factory rest and reset the password to something they do know.

Anything else and you are into the realms of hacking.


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December 7, 2009 at 19:31:26

You write:
"I use a NETGEAR to connect to routers, and mine doesn't let me use that passcode"

So this is YOUR router right? In your house right?

You ask:
"is there anyway of finding out that WEP password?"

If you could it wouldn't be very secure would it? This is set on the router and then the person who set it on the router sets in on the laptop.

None of what you are asking or doing is hacking just to clarify.

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December 8, 2009 at 06:34:54
Wanderer: No I use a NETGEAR WG111T (or something like that) to connect to a router normally, the router that I would be using if it worked is my friends (who lives next door to me), but this netgear doesn't (seemingly I tried multiply times) to use the "passcode" that this router has (it was written on the bottom of the router and is something like 14-16 digits long).

I'll just explain it again incase anyone misunderstood, I have to borrow my friends laptop to go online because it already has the password and that into it, I asked her father if he knew what the WEP password was, he said he didn't know anything about it (I think they had a professional come in and set it up?). I'm only asking how I would be able to actually find out that password so I'd be able to use my own computer to connect to their router.

Another option could be if anyone could explain to me how I could make it so the router I use ( could be used to connect to it.

Again thanks in advance.

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December 8, 2009 at 06:58:11
If you start the connection manager of the Netgear WG111T, on the settings tab, you can switch between Passphrase and Enter Key manually. Use "Enter Key manually" and put in the encryption key, written on the label of the router. Before you do this, change the encryption deapth for your needs.

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December 8, 2009 at 07:22:38
but this netgear doesn't (seemingly I tried multiply times) to use the "passcode" that this router has (it was written on the bottom of the router and is something like 14-16 digits long).

There is every possibility that it has been changed as BT recommend you do. It is only put there to get you started.

If it has been changed and no one knows what it is, the only option is a factory reset.


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December 8, 2009 at 07:36:38
Ok, another question.
Are you sure, that the wireless is encrypted?
Have you tried to connect without any encryption?

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December 8, 2009 at 08:23:37
@paulsep: I'm pretty sure I tried that before but I'll try it again when I can tonight.

And yea there is definitely a WEP encryption on it. <-- it's basically that password that I'm trying to figure out.

@StuartS: I was afraid that a reset is probably the only way, I'm just looking to see if there are any other options.

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December 8, 2009 at 08:41:14 <-- it's basically that password that I'm trying to figure out.

Did you click Show Characters?

It will probably remove the asterisks and show the password in clear.


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December 8, 2009 at 09:50:38
It's greyed out unfortunately so I can't click it :(

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December 8, 2009 at 12:03:42
What are the other choices next to security type? Have you listed the SSID in your wireless setup?

My understanding is open authenication means you need to also have listed the ssid.

Does your neighbor connect wirelessly to their router? It would be interesting to see if they put in the same key you do if they connect.

But then that could disconnect them also.

Can your neighbor logon to the router? Depending on model you can then see the wep key in plain text. Then you would know it for sure.

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December 8, 2009 at 16:29:34

Backtrack is what you want. Send me a PM for details

How do you know when a politician is lying? His mouth is moving.

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December 8, 2009 at 17:51:07
@ Wanderer: SSID is the name of the network yes? At least when I search for it using my computer it says the SSID is the same name as the router (BTVOYAGER2110-09 iirc). My neighours connect to the router wireless yes, they have like 3-4 different laptops for each person in the house, there isn't a single Desktop computer.

When they connect to it they don't actually type anything in, all the laptops are already setup with the password and such before they login (but my friends' dad told me they just used the passcode on the router, which doesn't work when I tried it using my NETGEAR).

And no they can't login to it either, the first time I borrowed the laptop I went into their house and tried myself to login to it using the laptop I was borrowing (I don't know if another one is able to?)

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December 8, 2009 at 18:43:56
Hey NicoleB.

I want to make sure I am reading this right.

So you borrowed a laptop from them that gets wireless no problem. You then did a ipconfig which shows the gateway. Then you put into IE or whatever browser you are using, that gateway ip address. You were then presented with a logon screen asking for account name and password.

Is this right?

No one there knows the account name or password to the router?

According to this:

that router is using for gateway ip and its access.

Though from here

it appears you are correct in that BT uses what is on the bottom of the router for wireless ssid. No mention of user and password to access the router though it lists admin and ****** for password. They just don't say what password.

I apologize. I am not seeing the password in the documentation.

You might just send a email to

and ask them how to connect. I would leave out the part about the neighbor though so they don't get the wrong idea :-)

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Please let us know how it works out so we can advise others in the future. Thanks


I did find this:

which shows the wireless key on a pink label. Is this what you are using? It would not be the btvoyager [I think] because that is the ssid.

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December 8, 2009 at 19:36:17
Wanderer: I don't actually type in anything when I borrow the laptop, all I need to do is turn it on and it automatically connects once it's finished starting up. I don't need to type in anything for it to connect.

When I use my own router to connect, I use the program that comes with the router I use, click on the networks tab and then click on their router thats listed on it, it gives me a choice of typing in a WEP or if I go to advanced "WPA-PSK" password. For the WEP I can type in the key manually or a passphrase. None of them worked when I tried it.

Anyway, I greatly appreciate the help anyway even if I don't find a solution, thanks anyway.

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December 9, 2009 at 08:09:13
Sorry but I am confused by "I use my own router". Don't you mean your netgear wireless card?

I thought you were trying to connect your laptop with a netgear wireless card to your neighbors wifi.

You would not need to type in anything when you borrow your neighbors laptop because it is already setup.

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December 9, 2009 at 21:28:27
Erm yes, apologises I meant the wireless card, said router by mistake.

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December 10, 2009 at 06:20:12
Did you review this link I posted previously?

Look at the bottom of page two. You need to go look at the pink label on the neighbors Btvoyager. That's the wep code to use.

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