UPGRADES: Can we use them??

Apple Mac os x 10.6 snow leopard (upgrad...
February 17, 2010 at 10:17:06
Specs: Macintosh
I see a total of 733,287 questions on "Can I upgrade 10.3 to 10.4??
Why do we have all this crap, why can´t we have an upgrade from 10.0 up to 10.6 without anything in between, and this should be free of charge.
We pay enough for software as it is without being taken to the cleaners for upgrades or being told "no upgrade between this or that, unless you have the other.
Have Apple not made enough money from us yet. Please let us have a little sanity when buying their product.
Just because most people cannot afford to get every upgrade available and plod on for years with an old OS, they should not be treated in this way.

David Booth

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February 17, 2010 at 10:58:41
This is the Hardware forum. Post your Mac complaints in the Mac forum.

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February 27, 2010 at 09:31:22
What you need to realise is that just because it is labelled OS X, each version is a new OS.

10.6 is to 10.5 what Windows 7 is to Windows Vista. Similar, but different. Apple will never offer an upgrade right back to 10.0, let alone for free, merely because the OS has changed so much since then.

Just be thankful Apple offer upgrades at all. I might be wrong, but I don't remember them ever being all that thoughtful back in the old days. I don't remember an upgrade path from System 7.5.5 to OS 8 for instance. If you wanted the new version you had to go out and buy a retail disc.

At least with OS X if you have the previous version of the OS and want the latest version, provided your hardware supports it you can general buy an upgrade for slightly less than the retail.

Even Microsoft aren't being all that nice with upgrades now. I noticed the Windows 7 Ultimate Upgrade is pretty much the same price as the retail version in most stores... Making the point of getting the upgrade, well, pointless.

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March 18, 2010 at 12:02:41
Because Steve Jobs is a very greedy man. And ever major release ( which was considered minor in the days of classic and was FREE ) he charges for. Apple is pretty much a software only company and ipod and OS sales is how they make their money these days.

Personally this is the way I look at it. If it's what I consider a minor release ( IE. 10.1, 10.2, etc.) than I have every right to pirate the next minor version up until a major release (IE, Mac OS 11) as it use to be in the old days. But considering I'm still using a 6500/300 and a PM9600, I really don't have to worry about it. :)

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March 22, 2010 at 01:53:35
And ever major release ( which was considered minor in the days of classic and was FREE ) he charges for

Outlander, you either don't know you're wrong or you know you're lying. Apple has always offered minor updates for free and even quite large updates and minor updates have always been considered minor updates... All updates to 10.5 (10.5.1, 10.5.2, 10.5.3 etc.) were all free updates to 10.5 and they were of the same scale as the updates available for classic OS. They were not upgrades, hence why they were free.

As I stated only major OS upgrades aren't free because they're essentially a new OS! You shouldn't really take Apple's OS version numbering scheme to heart, it is more of a trademark than an actual version number, just like Microsoft has given various version of its Windows software odd names (but under the hood the build number and kernel version ha remained consistent as it has in OS X).

Some examples and comparisons: OS 8.0 was a radical upgrade from System 7.5.5. and was charged for. OS 8.1 was a minor update to 8.0 and was offered for free. Os 10.5 was a major upgrade from OS 10.4, it had hundreds of new features and changes under the hood, it even looked a bit different. It was a new OS so they charged for it. The subsequent updates, 10.5.1, 10.5.2 etc. were all free.

Go figure.

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March 24, 2010 at 11:19:56
Outlander, you either don't know you're wrong or you know you're lying.

Well garthnut I've been an Apple tech since about 94-95 and have seen many releases when you were most likely in your diapers. So, no, I am not wrong or lying, but you certainly are.

A minor release is x.x to x.y, a major release is x.x, to y.x. I don't care if you "believe" this is a "new OS!" every release, because the sad truth is IT IS NOT! They are manly feature releases and minor updates to the same basic BSD unix, and crappy GUI shell known as Mac OS X. Apple shouldn't be allowed to charge for it!

And for the record, your examples SUCK! Comparing 7.5.x to 8.0? Yeah, that is what I was talking about a MAJOR release, not a minor. Get back into your diapers son and let the grown ups handle the support questions.

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March 27, 2010 at 10:43:01
Sorry to kick you squarely off your high horse (actually, I'm not sorry at all) but if it's a know-how competition you want then I've got you beat. I've been running tech support for Macs since they first got called Macs back in the 80's.

If you weren't before I do think you are now lying. You're nothing more than a Windows fanboy aren't you? Grow up. The mere fact you actually condone piracy of the OS is a ridiculous show of your immaturity. If you'd really been in tech support since the mid 90's surely you would be able to afford an OS upgrade without the need to resort to illegal activities?

Unless of course, your ignorance extends to your work life as much as it does here, in which case maybe you can't afford OS upgrades (I wouldn't pay you to do tech support if you're that simple-minded that's for sure).

Believe what you want about Mac OS and how new or not-new each incarnation of it is. At the end of the day you can only account for your own actions and opinions, no one else really gives a toss.

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