Puppy Linux install on a flash drive

July 22, 2010 at 17:41:19
Specs: Windows XP, P4/850
Good day to all. This is my first attempt at Linux, so if you reply you will be talking to someone with no knowledge of Linux at all. I chose puppy linux because from what I can tell from research it is supposed to be one of the simpler linux os. I have d/l the puppy linux 5.0.1 iso, and have burnt it to a cd. The computer I am working with is a emachines T5212 P4 w/XP with "boot from removable device enabled in the bios". The cd I burned works aok with the machine, all functions including internet. I am trying to install puppy from the cd to a new clean 4gb hp usb flash drive(known working), formatted in fat 32 and am using puppys universal installer. It seems as their are no problems when working through the software to install(ie puppy throws up no red flags). When the install is done, puppy ejects the cd. Next, I run through the settings, when done, I let it save the settings, after that has finished, puppy shuts the machine off, like all is well. When I try to boot puppy with the flash drive in, all I get is a black screen with "boot error" on it(note: their are linux files on the flash drive). I guess my question is why will the cd work, but when I put puppy from the cd onto the flash drive, and follow all directions puppy won`t work. I have been trying to do this for at least 5 hours with no results, so I have decided to ask for help. Any hints/advice will be much appreciated, thanks.

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#1
July 23, 2010 at 04:54:04
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/puppy-...

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#2
July 23, 2010 at 07:21:38
Thanks for the reply clive, yep, everything in the link you supplied, I have done, many times over with the install still being a no go.

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#3
July 23, 2010 at 09:16:30
Possibly you need to prepare the usb.

HP do a utility to create a bootable usb. There are 2.

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...

http://files.extremeoverclocking.co...

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#4
July 23, 2010 at 13:10:39
Thanks for those links Clive, I now have that hp utility, and will be trying it shortly.

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#5
July 23, 2010 at 18:45:21
Also you have to understand how your bios works.

You have to start with a cold boot and the usb flash installed. Then open bios. See if the usb shows up as a hard drive or if it shows up as some sort of removable device. Most show up as hard drive. Then you move up the boot order to usb then hd.

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#6
July 24, 2010 at 09:33:55
Thanks for the tips jefro, I am getting ready to try my install now(for the umteenth time).

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#7
July 24, 2010 at 10:52:11
I don`t know, I`ve been trying to do this now for about a day and a half now, and am starting to think this might be one of those "can`t do it with this equipment" moments. This is what I have done to now.

1. downloaded and burned live cd - puppy linux 5.0.1
2. formatted and made bootable hp 4gb flash drive using the hp flash drive utility.
3. started the live cd, which works perfect, internet included.
4. created a setup
5. ran puppy install(didn`t see any problems)
6. saved the setup, and puppy turned the computer off
7. with the flash drive in the computer, I restarted the computer
8. went into bios(boot order)
9. hp flash was in the boot order, so I moved it up to the top of the boot list with the hd being the second in line, and the dvd third.
10. I then pushed f10, which on my bios is save changes and exit.
11. I then exit the bios
12. the computer then tries to continue with the boot, and I end up with a black screen with "boot error" on it and that`s all.
Boy, was I wrong, as easy as the live cd is, and as good as it worked, I thought would be the same with my new 4gb flash drive since on linux site they say puppy can be run from a flash drive, no problem.


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#8
July 24, 2010 at 14:54:32
"2. formatted and made bootable hp 4gb flash drive using the hp flash drive utility"

Although I've never run Puppy from a bootable jumpdrive, I would think that the installer would automatically format & make the drive bootable. I don't know if your 'step 2' would conflict with that or not, but it's *probably* an unnecessary step. Try wiping the drive & letting Puppy configure it.


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#9
July 24, 2010 at 20:09:20
Jam, thanks for looking at my thread, I let windows format the hp flash drive, and then let puppy take care of the rest(make bootable) when doing the install, the flash drive still will not boot.

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#10
July 25, 2010 at 13:17:27
You may need to try that usb flash on a system that is known to boot usb.

Right now it looks like it all should have worked.

Your usb shows up in bios. That is good.

Puppy seems to have worked. That is good.

It is rare that you would need to use the HP tools but since you did that is good too.

I guess you can try liveusbcreator or unetbootin with some other distro just in case. I prefer liveusbcreator but I have used unetbootin too.

I have also simply used syslinux to make the drive bootable. Might try that first then restart the whole process.

The hp disk new and should not give you any problems.


Be sure to post the specs on your computer. Is it really a Pentium 4 850Mhz?

The only thing that is left that I can see is that some older computers (and I doubt yours is that old) is that there is a syslinux/isolinux deal and puppy gives you the option for the older computers. I guess you could see about that.


Guess you could post what you see on the drive when you use explorer in windows.

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#11
July 26, 2010 at 19:46:55
jefro, thanks for the advice about liveusbcreator, that most likely will be my next thing to try. As for your advice, I have no access to another computer known to boot usb, so out of luck there. The computer I am using to try this on is a emachines T5212 P4 2.67ghz dual core, with 1024kb ram. With the flash drive(4gb HP V115W) in the computer I do a cold boot, I go into bios, in bios I change the boot order to this.

1 HP V115W flash drive(4gb)
2 WD hard drive
3. TSST DVD

Also on this pg of my bios I have enabled

1 boot to hd drive - enabled
2 boot to optical device - enabled
3 boot to removable devices - enabled
4 boot to network - enabled
5 usb boot - enabled

I F-10 which is save changes and exit
And I end up with a black screen and a "Boot Failed" error msg.

The files on the flash drive after puppy install are

1 Boot
2 Intro
3 logo.16
4 lupusave.mike.2fs
5 usb flash (this one has 0kb)
6 help
7 Idlinux
8 lupu-501sfs
9 syslinux
10 vmlinuz


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#12
July 27, 2010 at 12:54:21
Looks like it all ought to work.

Do you have access to a usb cd drive? I guess you could see if it can boot to any cd/dvd just to test. The system ought to support what you want to do. In fact almost any distro should work.

Guess it is possible that some flash drives are not possible to be bootable. The HP tool is usually the ultimate fix for that.

Try some other distros. See pendrivelinux.com.

Might be that puppy is just too old computer ish.

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#13
July 28, 2010 at 10:50:16
Yea, I know what you mean about it looks like it should work. I`ve got a funky glitch somewhere. Yea, I have a usb cd drive on my other computer that I can switch over to see if the emachines will boot to the puppy live cd in the usb cd drive, and if it can, I will know it is the flash drive, and if it can`t I will know I have a problem with the emachines usb boot. Thanks for the advice jefro.

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#14
July 28, 2010 at 13:17:24
It could be something that the others and I simply missed. What the others and I offered seems to me to be correct.

Try another distro. See clive_pearce's pendrivelinux.com. I think that you really need to at least try it again.

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#15
July 28, 2010 at 18:23:36
Well, I hooked up my known working usb cd drive with the cd live cd in it, did a cold boot into the bios, the drive wouldn`t even show up in the bios as anything. I just wanted to let everyone know that replyed to my thread to help, thanks so much for taking the time(Clive/jefro/jam) , but I think I am going to have to let this one go. I hate to quit on anything, but I hate to waste time also, especially the time of the people trying to help me. I`m believing now that I have a problem with this emachines bios/boot order/ability to boot from usb ( probably expected since it is an emachines). Sorry for wasting everyones time, and your time was appreciated.

Thanks
Ike


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