The iPad is no laptop

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August 17, 2010 at 11:20:00
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The text quoted is from abc.net.au / "The iPad is no laptop". Because it is too large I copy the link here if you want to read the article.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/...

Michael Bednarek
Aug 6, 5:02 am
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August 17, 2010 at 11:26:46
Davoud

Aug 6, 8:42 am
Michael Bednarek:
Goomeri wrote in SecureComp:
> >http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/02/2970512.htm?site=thedrum
> >The iPad is no laptop
By Alan Kohler
Updated Mon Aug 2, 2010 8:32am AEST
Apple iPad
The iPad is built for media consumption, not media creation. (Reuters: Robert Galbraith)

> >I tried to use an iPad as a laptop, I really did. Gave it two long, frustrating months, but that was enough. On Saturday I broke down and bought a new Macbook Pro. Oh the bliss on Sunday....

This guy Kohler must be a complete lid. It doesn't look like a laptop, it doesn't waddle like a laptop, it doesn't quack like a laptop, it's not advertised as a laptop (i *Pad* ), so how could he have possibly deceived himself into thinking it was a laptop!?

As owner of three MacBook Pro's (two 17" and one 15") I can tell you that there are many situations in which the iPad can _replace_ a laptop. One such occasion occurred for me recently. I lugged a 17" MBP and my iPad to Chicago (from Maryland) for a scientific conference. Three hours into the conference I realized that I had made a mistake lugging the MBPro. All the necessary materials were available in a form the iPad (or any laptop) could read, presenters used iPads connected to projectors, Pages was more than adequate for taking notes. I had the PDF reference data and the spreadsheets I needed available to me as well as Wolfram Alpha for ad-hoc calculations. I had no need of the laptop, which sat idle in its roll-around. For that occasion my sleek MBP seemed like a big lead brick. Before that it was the World Science Festival in NYC--the first such trip in which I ventured out with my iPad and left my MBPro at home. I was glad to have done so, (and the mere presence of the iPad in a number of venues was sufficient to sell a dozen or so for Apple as people saw what it could do).

That's just the tip of what Kohler got wrong.

> >It's also good for reading books, as long as the light conditions are right - that is, you're not sitting in the sunshine or under a glary reading lamp.

Reading while sitting in the sunshine can lead to melanoma; strongly discouraged. There is no such thing as a glary reading lamp. It's either glary or a reading lamp, not both.

> >The fact the iPad uses a touch screen means, of course, that it's covered in fingerprints all the time,

But one can't see them when looking at the illuminated screen; only when the screen is black.

> >The iBooks store app only seems to have free books that are out of copyright at the moment, but there are a number of other bookstores you can use for new releases.

The iBooks store has fewer books than are available for Kindle. Nonetheless, I read a review of a new book in _Science_ and I had it in iBooks in minutes; in other words, he is dead wrong about only old books being available; there are thousands of books, including many recent releases available for purchase.

> >Alan Kohler is the publisher of the Business Spectator and the Eureka Report, as well as finance presenter on ABC News and presenter of Inside Business.

Yet he didn't know the difference between an iPad and a MacBook Pro? If this vacuous tripe is typical of what he peddles I would guess that he's not very smart but he's a clever self promoter.
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August 17, 2010 at 11:37:19
Steven Fisher

Aug 6, 12:16 pm
In article <sqjn56dd77jlj6esil0ccsh2lq5ij10...@4ax.com>,
Michael Bednarek <mbATmbednarek....@BLACKHOLESPAM.NET> wrote:
> >I tried to use an iPad as a laptop, I really did. Gave it two long, frustrating months, but that was enough. On Saturday I broke down and bought a new Macbook Pro. Oh the bliss on Sunday.

Astonishing. It took Alan Kohler only two months to realize the iPad was
not a laptop! We're dealing with a real brain here. (Hide the scissors.)
Steve


Erilar

Aug 6, 12:57 pm
Michael Bednarek <mbATmbednarek....@BLACKHOLESPAM.NET> wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:10:05 +1000, Goomeri wrote in SecureComp:
>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/...
>> The iPad is no laptop

I knew that going in, but this review is, even in my often- grouchy experience, a bit over the top
>> By Alan Kohler
Updated Mon Aug 2, 2010 8:32am AEST
Apple iPad
The iPad is built for media consumption, not media creation.
(Reuters:
Robert Galbraith)
I tried to use an iPad as a laptop, I really did. Gave it two long,
frustrating months, but that was enough. On Saturday I broke down and
bought a new Macbook Pro. Oh the bliss on Sunday.

That's what spoils me 8-)
>> I am now an expert on the limitations of the iPad. It only opens one application at a time; it won't operate Flash so many websites won't work; it doesn't have a good word processor; forget about doing much typing without a keyboard dock;

I knew all that going in. Didn't he?
the mail application is both clunky and limited.

But still much better than my ISP's REALLY clunky webmail that I used
to have to use away from home, because my lovely Macbook Pro couldn't
send from its own mail away from home.

>> It is, in short, built for media consumption, not media creation. It's basically a big iPhone without the phone.

Never been tempted to acquire the latter. Don't plan to watch movies nor
many videos on my iPad.

>> It's also good for reading books, as long as the light conditions are right - that is, you're not sitting in the sunshine or under a glary reading lamp. The fact the iPad uses a touch screen means, of course, that it's covered in fingerprints all the time, but I do prefer the backlighting of the iPad to the non-backlit screen of the Kindle.

Never tried a Kindle, but it's great for passing the time when the power goes out! But both Kindle and B&N ereaders are free.

>> The iBooks store app only seems to have free books that are out of copyright at the moment, but there are a number of other bookstores you can use for new releases.

And there are innumerable free books out there that iBooks doesn't begin
to list.

>> The big problem for newspapers and magazines is that the second best app on the iPad is the Safari web browser. It works beautifully, and it means all of the free media websites work very well indeed. I bought The Australian's $4.99 app but soon reverted back to using its website instead, which is far richer and free. The same goes for virtually all of the newspaper apps - the website has more stuff and works fine using Safari.

The BBC app is free and really nice. So are a number of others. I don't expect my local newspaper to turn up.

>> The Australian is no different to other newspaper apps that you have to pay for, and any media company that is hoping the iPad is going to save its bacon by generating app sales revenue or subscriptions is going to face the same disappointment.

Probably not, when there's so much free news available.

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I didn't know newspapers ran videos. . .
>> There are a few developers that are experimenting with this new medium called the iPad app and coming up with exciting ideas (for example, the American ABC News, and France 24 are both excellent apps).

I trashed ABC because their spinning globe irritated me. I'm hoping some of the news sites that currently appear on my screen catch up to the BBC soon.

>> The only way an iPad could re-establish the media cartel and it profitability is if it could replace laptops and it wasn't a good device for web browsing, so that the supply of media could be limited once more - instead of being everywhere, and free.

>> But as I have discovered the hard way it can't do the first of those yet, and won't ever do the second.

Well, i guess there are people who expected more from the iPad than even
I did. Much as I battle with some of the apps, particularly Pages, I find myself spending an unreasonable amount of time using it, even across the room from my full-service computer 8-)
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August 17, 2010 at 11:44:23
Erilar

Aug 6, 12:57 pm
Michael Bednarek <mbATmbednarek....@BLACKHOLESPAM.NET> wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:10:05 +1000, Goomeri wrote in SecureComp:
>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/...
>> The iPad is no laptop

Well, i guess there are people who expected more from the iPad than even
I did. Much as I battle with some of the apps, particularly Pages, I
find myself spending an unreasonable amount of time using it, even
across the room from my full-service computer 8-)
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breadwiths...@fractious.net

Aug 6, 3:40 pm
Davoud <s...@sky.net> writes:
> Michael Bednarek:
>> >By Alan Kohler
>> >The iPad is no laptop

Um, this is a headline?
>> >The iPad is built for media consumption, not media creation. (Reuters: Robert Galbraith)

That seems pretty obvious. It can allow some media creation, but why anyone would expect it to excel at that is just an indication of goofiness.

> I lugged a 17" MBP and my iPad to Chicago (from Maryland) for a scientific conference. Three hours into the conference I realized that I had made a mistake lugging the MBPro. All the necessary materials were available in a form the iPad (or any laptop) could read, presenters used iPads connected to projectors, Pages was more than adequate for taking notes. I had the PDF reference data and the spreadsheets I needed available to me as well as Wolfram Alpha for ad-hoc calculations. I had no need of the laptop

Now you're talking sense! I'd probably take the laptop for doing real work outside of the conference, but perhaps leave it locked up in the hotel room. And take the iPad to meetings, conference, etc.

>> >The iBooks store app only seems to have free books that are out of copyright at the moment, but there are a number of other bookstores you can use for new releases.

Um, you want books that are free but *not* out of copyright, you need to talk to the copyright holders.

iBooks store sells lots of copyrighted books and gives away free lots of not-copyrighted books. Why would anyone expect otherwise?

> The iBooks store has fewer books than are available for Kindle.

And, of course, there's a Kindle app for the iPad and iPhones, so every
book available on the Kindle is available on the iOS devices.

>> >Alan Kohler is the publisher of the Business Spectator and the Eureka Report, as well as finance presenter on ABC News and presenter of Inside Business.

Got to wonder about this guy - if this article is the best he can do, I have to be a little skeptical of his other work.

> Yet he didn't know the difference between an iPad and a MacBook Pro? If this vacuous tripe is typical of what he peddles I would guess that he's not very smart but he's a clever self promoter.

He's certainly gotten a couple of us to comment here. Let's see him monetize that.
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>>> the mail application is both clunky and limited.
> But still much better than my ISP's REALLY clunky webmail that I used to have to use away from home, because my lovely Macbook Pro couldn't send from its own mail away from home.

I wonder why your MBP mail app can't send when you're away from home. Do you have it set to use your ISP's SMTP and they won't let you access it from an internet connetion which isn't theirs?
I'd seriously think about using a mail account from someone other than your ISP. There are third-party mail providers who do an excellent job and won't give you those kinds of headaches. I myself use Fastmail.FM,
but there are others.

>>> It's also good for reading books, as long as the light conditions are

> And there are innumerable free books out there that iBooks doesn't begin to list.

Again, there's a Kindle app, Stanza, iBooks, and pretty much any other place on the internet where you can find a PDF or ePub format book - all of which may be read on the iPad. And, in my opinion, generally more
comfortably than reading such things on a laptop or desktop machine.

> The BBC app is free and really nice. So are a number of others. I don't expect my local newspaper to turn up.

The NYTimes is excellent, too.

> I didn't know newspapers ran videos. . .

Lots of them have video on their sites.

> Well, i guess there are people who expected more from the iPad than even I did. Much as I battle with some of the apps, particularly Pages, I find myself spending an unreasonable amount of time using it, even across the room from my full-service computer 8-)

I think you'll get over your battling with Pages. I use it on the desktop and am really generally quite pleased with it. (I'm another one who's gone through many many WPs over the years, starting with systems where one edited text and inserted codes for formatting (similar to the venerable unix roff/nroff/troff stuff) back in the early 80s. Pages (and the whole iWork package) is, I think, a great deal on a very solid package. It takes a little getting used to, but I find that Pages pretty much just works and stays out of my way most of the rest of the time.

As we've discussed, I played with it on an iPad for a little while and it was clear to me that I'd hate to start a document from scratch on there or do the bulk of my work on it -- but it'd be perfectly adequate form most minor edits and display/reading of Pages docs I write on my desktop. If all you're doing is writing a letter or something, Pages on the iPad alone might be okay, but anything more and, yes, you're going
to want a more traditional computer. Why that writer whose article we've been discussing thought otherwise is a mystery. 10 minutes poking at an iPad at an Apple store should have made this all quite clear.
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August 17, 2010 at 11:54:29
Erilar

Aug 6, 9:41 pm
<BreadWithS...@fractious.net> wrote:
> Erilar <dra...@chibardun.netinvalid> writes:
>>>> the mail application is both clunky and limited.
>> But still much better than my ISP's REALLY clunky webmail that I used to have to use away from home, because my lovely Macbook Pro couldn't send from its own mail away from home.

> I wonder why your MBP mail app can't send when you're away from home. Do you have it set to use your ISP's SMTP and they won't let you access it from an internet connetion which isn't theirs?

My daughter and I did a lot of experimentation thevfirst time I took my laptop down there. I could receive via Mail, but only send via the ISP's webmail.

> I'd seriously think about using a mail account from someone other than your ISP. There are third-party mail providers who do an excellent job and won't give you those kinds of headaches. I myself use Fastmail.FM, but there are others.

Oh, I used to have one elsewhere, but it was a nuisance. I like having it together.

>>>> It's also good for reading books, as long as the light conditions are

>> And there are innumerable free books out there that iBooks doesn't begin to list.

> Again, there's a Kindle app, Stanza, iBooks, and pretty much any other place on the internet where you can find a PDF or ePub format book - all of which may be read on the iPad. And, in my opinion, generally more comfortably than reading such things on a laptop or desktop machine.

Much more! And I have a couple of the other readers, too. And some books from the Baen site, too.

>> The BBC app is free and really nice. So are a number of others. I don't expect my local newspaper to turn up.

The NYTimes is excellent, too.

I'll have to look.

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I hope I reach that stage eventually. My problems stem from the drastic changes. In the past, they've been incremental ; this is a major leap across a chasm!

> As we've discussed, I played with it on an iPad for a little while and it was clear to me that I'd hate to start a document from scratch on there or do the bulk of my work on it -- but it'd be perfectly adequate form most minor edits and display/reading of Pages docs I write on my desktop. If all you're doing is writing a letter or something, Pages on the iPad alone might be okay, but anything more and, yes, you're going to want a more traditional computer. Why that writer whose article we've been discussing thought otherwise is a mystery. 10 minutes poking at an iPad at an Apple store should have made this all quite clear.

I played with one for a good hour in the store before I really considered buying one, then went back for another session before actually ordering one. I had a pretty good idea what I could do easily. Adding Pages on both systems at once is what's driving me up the wall!
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August 17, 2010 at 12:00:07
Larry

Aug 7, 4:28 pm
BreadWithS...@fractious.net wrote in news:yob4of7il7k.fsf@panix1.panix.com:

> I had no need of the laptop

Why now just video the whole thing on the laptop? No need to "take notes", like an old college student from 1935, when you have the entire conference on the hard drive in compressed DivX made on-the-fly and stored in perpetuity you can edit for future reference. A clipon webcam is sufficient in most venues. Free from iPad's hobbling with no external storage allowed, you can copy the video to anyone's USB flash drive who needs it, while they're buying dinner later on. You needed a NETBOOK, not an iPad....one with a real OS not hobbled all up to try to prevent you from using it. A 7" netbook is about the same load as an iPad, and its battery runs about the same.
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breadwiths...@fractious.net

Aug 7, 6:44 pm
Larry <no...@home.com> writes:
> BreadWithS...@fractious.net wrote in news:yob4of7il7k.fsf@panix1.panix.com:
>> I had no need of the laptop
> Why now just video the whole thing on the laptop? No need to "take notes",

If all you want is video, neither a laptop nor an iPad is what you
want. What you want is a video camera.

> You needed a NETBOOK, not an iPad....one with a real OS not hobbled all up to try to prevent you from using it. A 7" netbook is about the same load as an iPad, and its battery runs about the same.

As far as I can tell - and I do own one - nobody needs a netbook for much of anything. All the folks who have them and are happy with them are welcome to them and I see no need to go to netbook newsgroups and
spout of about how useless mine is. But, as usual, you're simply wrong. I don't know what you think I'd use a netbook for, but in my experience, the iPad is vastly better for consuming media, generally better for e-mail, and no worse (or not much worse) for much of anything else. I'd no sooner try to write a report on a netbook than I'd try to do so on an iPad. But I'd very much rather read a book, surf the internet, watch a video, and read (if not write) e-mail on an iPad. Maybe things are better on netbooks running other OSs, but WinXP on mine is a miserable experience.
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August 17, 2010 at 12:05:20
George Kerby

Aug 7, 7:52 pm
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YOU need a brain. I can see him pointing the computer's tiny low-res wide angle camera to spots that appear to move. Not to mention the atrocious audio that can not be deciphered because of the inferior 'microphone'. Larry, your unnatural hatred knows no bounds. You a pathetic lonely old man.


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Aug 8, 11:21 am
BreadWithS...@fractious.net wrote in news:yobfwy...@panix1.panix.com:

> But, as usual, you're simply wrong. I don't know what you think I'd use

Ok, you're in denial and I can understand it. This was a poor choice and now you're stuck with it until the contract is over. Thanks.
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August 17, 2010 at 12:11:48
breadwiths...@fractious.net

Aug 8, 11:54 am
Larry <no...@home.com> writes:
> BreadWithS...@fractious.net wrote in news:yobfwyqqbzy.fsf@panix1.panix.com:

>> But, as usual, you're simply wrong. I don't know what you think I'd use
> Ok, you're in denial and I can understand it. This was a poor choice and now you're stuck with it until the contract is over. Thanks.

Um, what? (a) what contract? (b) stuck with what? I don't have an iPad. I've got an iPhone. And a netbook.

You really seem confused.

Frankly, the iPhone is vastly more useful to me than the netbook. If that's any indication of the reality of these things, the iPad will be vastly better still. I'm mainly waiting until the next generation of it, with a front-facing camera for video chats. And I may stop waiting
- I see situations constantly where I'd have been happy to have had an iPad. Meanwhile, the netbook sits in the house mostly unused. There's one and only one thing for which the netbook is the go-to computer - skype video chats. That's part of why I'm hoping/looking towards the addition of that camera on the iPad.
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George Kerby

Aug 8, 2:36 pm
On 8/8/10 10:21 AM, in article Xns9DCE73827FA1Enoonehome...@74.209.131.13,

"Larry" <no...@home.com> wrote:
> BreadWithS...@fractious.net wrote in
news:yobfwyqqbzy.fsf@panix1.panix.com:

>> But, as usual, you're simply wrong. I don't know what you think I'd use

> Ok, you're in denial and I can understand it. This was a poor choice and now you're stuck with it until the contract is over. Thanks.
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Larry

Here is Lar's very own video from that muslim station (he's the guy with the
biggest bling, btw)...

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuo3VG_FEIM>

BTW: Lar, that's "Amman", get it right - if you are promoting hatred, do it
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August 17, 2010 at 12:17:19
George Kerby

Aug 8, 2:40 pm
On 8/8/10 10:54 AM, in article yoby6chqev3....@panix1.panix.com,

"BreadWithS...@fractious.net" <BreadWithS...@fractious.net> wrote:
> Larry <no...@home.com> writes:

>> BreadWithS...@fractious.net wrote in news:yobfwyqqbzy.fsf@panix1.panix.com:

>>> But, as usual, you're simply wrong. I don't know what you think I'd use

>> Ok, you're in denial and I can understand it. This was a poor choice and now you're stuck with it until the contract is over. Thanks.

> Um, what? (a) what contract? (b) stuck with what? I don't have an iPad. I've got an iPhone. And a netbook.

> You really seem confused.

The understatement of this newsgroup since its inception. And, the stupid-assed troll doesn't even have, or know someone who does have one. Yet, like most trolls, he rants on - much like a mad hyena...


AES

Aug 8, 2:44 pm
In article <yob4of7il7k....@panix1.panix.com>,
BreadWithS...@fractious.net wrote:
> > I lugged a 17" MBP and my iPad to Chicago (from Maryland) for a scientific conference. Three hours into the conference I realized that I had made a mistake lugging the MBPro. All the necessary materials were available in a form the iPad (or any laptop) could read, presenters used iPads connected to projectors, Pages was more than adequate for taking notes. I had the PDF reference data and the spreadsheets I needed available to me as well as Wolfram Alpha for ad-hoc calculations. I had no need of the laptop

> Now you're talking sense! I'd probably take the laptop for doing real work outside of the conference, but perhaps leave it locked up in the hotel room. And take the iPad to meetings, conference, etc.

I can fully agree with this; I could do all those things at the meeting, and also use the iPad as a much more convenient replacement for the MBPro, both for work and for relaxation, in the cramped seat on the
plane coming and going to the meeting.

The downside that kills this for me is the subsequent remembering and synchronizing of all the mods and additions I've put into the iPad -- the process of getting all those individual bits of information and data on the iPad put away in the locations on the MBPro where _I_ want them to go, once I get back home and back to full-time operations on the MBPro.

Doing it by hand is as boring and error-prone as it is time-consuming. And I'm not about to trust _any_ auto-synch method or synchronizing app or service that I don't _totally_ understand. And developing that trust and understanding is itself a big, big pain (especially as we read posts about how transferring files between Apple iWork apps on real Macs and iGadgets may in fact strip metadata from those files?).

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August 17, 2010 at 13:55:03
Larry

Aug 8, 11:44 pm
BreadWithS...@fractious.net wrote in news:yoby6chqev3.fsf@panix1.panix.com:
> Frankly, the iPhone is vastly more useful to me than the netbook. If that's any indication of the reality of these things, the iPad will be vastly better still. I'm mainly waiting until the next generation of it, with a front-facing camera for video chats. And I may stop waiting - I see situations constantly where I'd have been happy to have had an iPad. Meanwhile, the netbook sits in the house mostly unused. There's one and only one thing for which the netbook is the go-to computer - skype video chats. That's part of why I'm hoping/looking towards the addition of that camera on the iPad.

User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) Maybe you'd get better service out of it if you dumped Windoze and loaded some Unix like Ubuntu for Mobile, instead. Mine dual boots to Ubuntu and runs under it most of the time except where no software exists that XP has easily.

Meego for Netbooks 1.0 is out. I'm booting it from a USB flashdrive on the Samsung NC10 to watch it develop. Google Chrome is its browser and the newest version has lots more of the toys, now. Meego off the flashdrive boots from scratch in 8 seconds on my old netbook. I do lack a driver for the Taiwan touchscreen I installed on it, but the pad multitouch works fine.

I'll probably replace XP and Ubuntu with Meego on it after the developers catch up. If Meego ends up with so much neat software as Maemo has, around a thousand useful applications for mobile, and with Nokia behind it, it's gonna be a helluva great ride like the N800 Linux tablets. N800 is my pocketable of choice, still. If they steal it out of my car, I'm out $75, not serious money. If they connect it to the net after they steal it, I'll destroy it automatically when it calls home.

Obviously someone familiar with Unix, you'd appreciate not being a slave.
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August 17, 2010 at 14:03:31
breadwiths...@fractious.net

Aug 9, 12:49 am
Larry <no...@home.com> writes:
> BreadWithS...@fractious.net wrote in news:yoby6chqev3.fsf@panix1.panix.com:

> Maybe you'd get better service out of it if you dumped Windoze and loaded some Unix like Ubuntu for Mobile, instead. Mine dual boots to Ubuntu and

My news client and the operating system it runs on - interesting that you thought digging into my posting headers would be useful - tell you nothing about the various operating systems I regularly use. Here - let me help interpret that for you: I'm posting to this newsgroup from a NetBSD machine and a command line. I ssh into it from whatever desktop machine I happen to be on - which could be a Windows machine, a Linux machine, or a Mac. It's been many years since I had a Sun on my desk.

> runs under it most of the time except where no software exists that XP has easily.

If I'm going to go to the trouble of removing the default operating system from that netbook, it'll not be to put on another one which will require as much maintenance as the one which is on it now, nor one which doesn't run the everyday software that I prefer to use. I'd probably put MacOS X on it if I were inclined to really muck about with it, but the whole point - which I've tried to make before all this - is that I don't want to have to spend that time mucking about with it.

> Meego for Netbooks 1.0 is out. I'm booting it from a USB flashdrive on the

I'll take a look, but I'm skeptical that it's worth my time. It's been a couple of years since I spent time managing and configuring a unix machine and I'm very glad of that fact. It was worth it then, for certain remote servers and the second desktop machine in my office which then I used side-by-side with a Windows machine). Nowadays, I'm blessed with not having to manage servers, though I miss some of the software-writing. And I'm especially happy not to have to deal with Windows except for very rarely.

I sat out the entirety of Vista and haven't had any reason to take a shot at Win7.

> Obviously someone familiar with Unix, you'd appreciate not being a slave.

I'm deeply familiar with it. And I value my time highly enough that when someone's not paying me to muck about with the OS, I prefer one which requires minimal manual maintenance. I have other things to do. You have a funny idea of what it means to be a slave. I'm free to choose whatever platform I prefer. And I do so. I'm not sure I understand why you find it so entertaining to come to the iPad newsgroup and do nothing but tell us iOS users (and Mac users) how stupid you think we are. Best I can figure, since you continually post things which are simply out-and-out wrong (and two seconds with Google is usually enough to demonstrate such to you), you are knowingly posting incorrect things just to get reactions out of folks. The only alternative to that theory is that you are actually that ignorant, and I'm pretty certain that you're not. Unfortunately, if the only choices are "ignorant" and "troll," that leaves me with only the one remaining conclusion. And that's sad. You could be much more interesting.
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August 17, 2010 at 14:07:41
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Aug 9, 12:57 am
In article <yobd3tspf0d....@panix2.panix.com>,

<BreadWithS...@fractious.net> wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand why you find it so entertaining to come to the iPad newsgroup and do nothing but tell us iOS users (and Mac users) how stupid you think we are.

gotta wonder about that.
> Best I can figure, since you continually post things which are simply out-and-out wrong (and two seconds with Google is usually enough to demonstrate such to you), you are knowingly posting incorrect things just to get reactions out of folks.

usually it doesn't even require a google search, it's so obvious it's wrong.

> The only alternative to that theory is that you are actually that ignorant, and I'm pretty certain that you're not.

what makes you so certain?


Jolly Roger

Aug 9, 10:20 am
In article <yobd3tspf0d....@panix2.panix.com>,

BreadWithS...@fractious.net wrote:
> You have a funny idea of what it means to be a slave. I'm free to choose whatever platform I prefer. And I do so. I'm not sure I understand why you find it so entertaining to come to the iPad newsgroup and do nothing but tell us iOS users (and Mac users) how stupid you think we are. Best I can figure, since you continually post things which are simply out-and-out wrong (and two seconds with Google is usually enough to demonstrate such to you), you are knowingly posting incorrect things just to get reactions out of folks. The only alternative to that theory is that you are actually that ignorant, and I'm pretty certain that you're not. Unfortunately, if the only choices are "ignorant" and "troll," that leaves me with only the one remaining conclusion. And that's sad. You could be much more interesting.

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