iPad: bricked???

Apple Ipad 16gb tablet
August 24, 2010 at 08:50:25
Specs: Macintosh
Mike Klein
Jul 13, 9:28 am

I had jailbroke my ipad and issued a reset from the settings menu. Now, the only way to turn it on or off is to hold the home button while holding the on/off button. When on, the only thing displayed is the apple! Is there some way to do a hard reset? Other ideas?

Thanks

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August 24, 2010 at 08:52:48
Michael Arends
Jul 13, 9:56 am

Smiling Wickedly, Mike Klein answered:
> I had jailbroke my ipad and issued a reset from the settings menu. Now, the only way to turn it on or off is to hold the home button while holding the on/off button. When on, the only thing displayed is the apple! Is there some way to do a hard reset? Other ideas?

> Thanks

sounds like you need to do a restore
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Mike Klein
Jul 13, 10:02 am

In article <KJ6dnds76bkD7aHRnZ2dnUVZ_j6dn...@giganews.com>,
Michael Arends <mlare...@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote:

> Smiling Wickedly, Mike Klein answered:
> > I had jailbroke my ipad and issued a reset from the settings menu. Now, the only way to turn it on or off is to hold the home button while holding the on/off button. When on, the only thing displayed is the apple!

> > Is there some way to do a hard reset? Other ideas?
> > Thanks

> sounds like you need to do a restore

That's what I intended to do next. However, the mac show no sign that
the ipad is plugged in.

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August 24, 2010 at 08:55:51
Paul Murray
Jul 13, 11:59 am

On 2010-07-13, Mike Klein <kl...@loyno.edu> wrote:
> I had jailbroke my ipad and issued a reset from the settings menu. Now, the only way to turn it on or off is to hold the home button while holding the on/off button. When on, the only thing displayed is the apple!

> Is there some way to do a hard reset? Other ideas?

Turn it off.
Connect it by USB to a computer with iTunes running.
Turn it on while holding down the home button.

This should force it into recovery mode, and iTunes will prompt
to restore it.


Davoud
Jul 13, 6:51 pm

Mike Klein:
> I had jailbroke my ipad and issued a reset from the settings menu. Now, the only way to turn it on or off is to hold the home button while holding the on/off button. When on, the only thing displayed is the apple!

Seriously -- I've heard the downside of jail-breaking from you and a number of others. What is the upside?

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George Kerby
Jul 13, 8:02 pm

On 7/13/10 5:51 PM, in article 130720101851370602%s...@sky.net, "Davoud"
<s...@sky.net> wrote:
> Mike Klein:

>> I had jailbroke my ipad and issued a reset from the settings menu. Now, the only way to turn it on or off is to hold the home button while holding the on/off button. When on, the only thing displayed is the apple!

> Seriously -- I've heard the downside of jail-breaking from you and a number of others. What is the upside?

> Davoud

That would be my question as well: "WHY?"

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August 24, 2010 at 08:59:24
Jolly Roger
Jul 13, 8:51 pm

In article <130720101851370602%s...@sky.net>, Davoud <s...@sky.net>
wrote:

> Mike Klein:

> > I had jailbroke my ipad and issued a reset from the settings menu. Now, the only way to turn it on or off is to hold the home button while holding the on/off button. When on, the only thing displayed is the apple!

> Seriously -- I've heard the downside of jail-breaking from you and a number of others. What is the upside?

> Davoud

Freedom to do whatever you want to with your phone.

For instance, I jail broke my iPhone 3G so that I could have an automated cron job copy voice mail messages off of it for archival, and so I could tether it to my iPad or MacBook Pro without having to pay AT&T abhorrent fees.

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Allistar
Jul 13, 9:08 pm

Tethering is a good reason to jailbreak an iPhone. It's technically capable of acting as a wifi access point for an iPad, yet Apple don't allow it. Jailbreaking makes this possible.

What good reason is there for not allowing it in the standard non jailbroken device (and no, supporting a particular carrier is not a good reason).

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August 24, 2010 at 09:03:14
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Davoud:
> >> Seriously -- I've heard the downside of jail-breaking from you and a number of others. What is the upside?

Allistar:
> Tethering is a good reason to jailbreak an iPhone. It's technically capable of acting as a wifi access point for an iPad, yet Apple don't allow it. Jailbreaking makes this possible.

Is that all? All that hassle to save a few $ per month!? There are a lot cheaper ways of getting a device on the Internet than tethering it to an iPhone, in any case.

> What good reason is there for not allowing it in the standard non jailbroken device (and no, supporting a particular carrier is not a good reason).

You may have mistaken me for an Apple executive. I am not an Apple executive, so I don't know the answer to that question. I can tell you this, however: when Apple came out with the iPhone they had no options
in the carrier they chose in the U.S. *if* they wanted all of the iPhones features (Visual Voice Mail, e.g.) to work. Verizon were not interested.

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Jolly Roger
Jul 13, 10:30 pm

In article <130720102226134978%s...@sky.net>, Davoud <s...@sky.net>
wrote:

> Davoud:
> > >> Seriously -- I've heard the downside of jail-breaking from you and a number of others. What is the upside?

> Allistar:
> > Tethering is a good reason to jailbreak an iPhone. It's technically capable of acting as a wifi access point for an iPad, yet Apple don't allow it. Jailbreaking makes this possible. Is that all? All that hassle to save a few $ per month!? There are a lot cheaper ways of getting a device on the Internet than tethering it to an iPhone, in any case.

All what hassle? Have you jail broken an iOS device lately? You download
an application, run it, and click a button. It really is that easy.

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August 24, 2010 at 09:07:42
Allistar
Jul 13, 10:39 pm

Davoud wrote:
> Davoud:
>> >> Seriously -- I've heard the downside of jail-breaking from you and a number of others. What is the upside?

> Allistar:
>> Tethering is a good reason to jailbreak an iPhone. It's technically capable of acting as a wifi access point for an iPad, yet Apple don't allow it. Jailbreaking makes this possible. Is that all? All that hassle to save a few $ per month!? There are a lot cheaper ways of getting a device on the Internet than tethering it to an iPhone, in any case.

A few $ a month? It's the difference between buying a 3G iPad and a normal wifi only iPad.

How else can one use an iPhone to provide internet access to an iPad when you aren't around any usual wifi access points?

>> What good reason is there for not allowing it in the standard non jailbroken device (and no, supporting a particular carrier is not a good reason).

> You may have mistaken me for an Apple executive. I am not an Apple executive, so I don't know the answer to that question. I can tell you this, however: when Apple came out with the iPhone they had no options in the carrier they chose in the U.S. *if* they wanted all of the iPhones features (Visual Voice Mail, e.g.) to work. Verizon were not interested.

I am not in the U.S. Perhaps Apple would allow tethering like this in other
countries?
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Jolly Roger
Jul 13, 10:40 pm
In article <130720102226134978%s...@sky.net>, Davoud <s...@sky.net>
wrote:

> Davoud:
> > >> Seriously -- I've heard the downside of jail-breaking from you and a number of others. What is the upside?

> Allistar:
> > Tethering is a good reason to jailbreak an iPhone. It's technically capable of acting as a wifi access point for an iPad, yet Apple don't allow it. Jailbreaking makes this possible. Is that all? All that hassle to save a few $ per month!? There are a lot cheaper ways of getting a device on the Internet than tethering it to an iPhone, in any case.

I pay $15 a month, or $180 a year, right now for data. If I wanted to tether, I would have to pay $45 a month, or $540 a year, for data! That's quite a bit more than "just a few $ per month" difference.

While I do think the fact that jail breaking is free is great, it's not solely about cost for me. With my iPhone jail broken, I can share my 3G connection with my iPad or MacBook Pro no matter where I am. You can't do that with AT&T's tethering.

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August 24, 2010 at 09:22:33
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Jul 13, 10:48 pm

In article <jollyroger-0DD472.21304313072...@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyro...@pobox.com> wrote:
> All what hassle? Have you jail broken an iOS device lately? You download an application, run it, and click a button. It really is that easy.

it's so easy that the iphone dev team is still trying to figure out how to do it for the iphone 4.


Allistar
Jul 13, 11:00 pm

I have a MacBook and can tether it to my iPhone using Bluetooth just fine - why does this not work for you?

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Davoud
Jul 14, 1:16 am

Davoud:
> > Is that all? All that hassle to save a few $ per month!? There are a lot cheaper ways of getting a device on the Internet than tethering it to an iPhone, in any case.

Allistar:
> A few $ a month? It's the difference between buying a 3G iPad and a normal wifi only iPad.

OK, different philosophies. Convenience frequently costs more. Ready-to-drive BMW's more than kit cars, that sort of thing. Some, including me, are able and willing to pay for convenience, and some are unable and/or unwilling.

If they are simply unwilling I tend to assume that such people don't value their time very much. IMO one can find the value of money simply by counting it, but time is incalculably precious. Most of us in the developed world run out of time before we run out of money. Saying "Wait! I've got money in the bank! I can't die yet!" is fruitless.

Being unable to get new software updates from Apple, inability to use the iTunes store, run the apps that I want--that would be my idea of too steep a price to pay for a tethered iPhone. Thus, in addition to our latest-generation iPhones, my wife and I each have 3G iPads--though we haven't found it necessary to activate the 3G yet. We also have a Verizon MiFi card, which shares Verizon's 3G data among up to five devices via WiFi or provides Internet access to one device via a USB cable (WiFi off when cable is plugged in). The result is that there are few places we would be likely to go in the USA where we could not access the Internet. Without debating the merits of wanting to be able to connect virtually all the time, that's our idea of convenience.

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August 24, 2010 at 09:27:00
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Jul 14, 2:09 am

In message <130720102226134978%s...@sky.net> Davoud <s...@sky.net> was

claimed to have wrote:
>Davoud:
>> >> Seriously -- I've heard the downside of jail-breaking from you and a number of others. What is the upside?

>Allistar:
>> Tethering is a good reason to jailbreak an iPhone. It's technically capable of acting as a wifi access point for an iPad, yet Apple don't allow it. Jailbreaking makes this possible.

>Is that all? All that hassle to save a few $ per month!? There are a lot cheaper ways of getting a device on the Internet than tethering it to an iPhone, in any case.

There are? How can you get cheaper than $0?


Allistar
Jul 14, 3:40 am

My issue is that tethering an iPad to an iPhone is technically possible. Why does Apple forbid it via normal sanctioned means? I do not use AT&T and never have. I do not live in the US. I can tether my iPhone to my MacBook over Bluetooth - why not with an iPad? Again, this is not a technical limitation.

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Jochem Huhmann
Jul 14, 5:21 am

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> writes:
> In article <jollyroger-0DD472.21304313072...@news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyro...@pobox.com> wrote:

>> All what hassle? Have you jail broken an iOS device lately? You download an application, run it, and click a button. It really is that easy.

> it's so easy that the iphone dev team is still trying to figure out how to do it for the iphone 4.


No, they're just waiting for Apple to come with the first update to reduce the risk of starting all over again if Apple changes something. And then all of this doesn't matter for the actual user. If there's a jailbreak available it's usually really easy for the user, even if it wasn't easy at all to implement in the first place.

One thing that's really handy with a jailbreak is SBSettings which allows to access several settings (including brightness) from within every app with no need to go to the settings app first.

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August 24, 2010 at 09:29:38
Allistar
Jul 14, 6:19 am

Excellent - can you point to instructions on how to do this?

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nospam
Jul 14, 8:06 am

In article <-dKdnU6VqJOpEqDRnZ2dnUVZ_o6dn...@giganews.com>, Allistar
<m...@hiddenaddress.com> wrote:
> >> Tethering is a good reason to jailbreak an iPhone. It's technically capable of acting as a wifi access point for an iPad, yet Apple don't allow it.

> > Apple DO allow it.

> Excellent - can you point to instructions on how to do this?

settings->network->internet tethering. it's up to your carrier to support it.

<http://support.apple.com/kb/ts2756>


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Jul 14, 8:25 am

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August 24, 2010 at 09:33:40
Jon Ribbens
Jul 14, 10:04 am

On 2010-07-14, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <-dKdnU6VqJOpEqDRnZ2dnUVZ_o6dn...@giganews.com>, Allistar
><m...@hiddenaddress.com> wrote:
>> >> Tethering is a good reason to jailbreak an iPhone. It's technically capable of acting as a wifi access point for an iPad, yet Apple don't allow it.

>> > Apple DO allow it.

>> Excellent - can you point to instructions on how to do this?

> settings->network->internet tethering. it's up to your carrier to support it.

OK, I am sitting here with a non-jailbroken iPhone 4 with officially-authorised tethering enabled. I also have a WiFi-only iPad. What do I do next?


Jolly Roger
Jul 14, 10:19 am

In article <slrni3rgur.9hp.jon+use...@snowy.squish.net>,
Jon Ribbens <jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:

If you are using AT&T, that means you'll have to upgrade to the 2 GB data plan and pay an extra $20 a month for tethering.

> I also have a WiFi-only iPad. What do I do next?

As far as I know, you can't do WiFi tethering with the officially-sanctioned tethering feature. I refuse to pay for it to find out for sure if that's the case; but that's what I've read elsewhere.
If you want to do WiFi tethering, you'll need to jail break the phone to do it. The bonus is you don't have to pay AT&T for tethering if you jail break.

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August 24, 2010 at 09:36:39
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Jul 14, 10:29 am

In article <slrni3rgur.9hp.jon+use...@snowy.squish.net>, Jon Ribbens
<jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:
> OK, I am sitting here with a non-jailbroken iPhone 4 with officially-authorised tethering enabled. I also have a WiFi-only iPad. What do I do next?

nothing. ipads cannot tether to iphones.

you can use the iphone to tether via bluetooth or usb, neither of which is supported on an ipad. maybe that will change one day. be sure to bitch at apple to make it happen. you can jailbreak and use mywi, but it's not that good and drains the battery very quickly. or you can get an aircard and swap the sim into
that. or cut the sim (if you have an older iphone, otherwise just swap it) and put that in the ipad.



Jon Ribbens
Jul 14, 10:59 am

On 2010-07-14, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrni3rgur.9hp.jon+use...@snowy.squish.net>, Jon Ribbens
><jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:

>> OK, I am sitting here with a non-jailbroken iPhone 4 with officially-authorised tethering enabled. I also have a WiFi-only iPad. What do I do next? nothing. ipads cannot tether to iphones.

Oh, that's odd, in your previous message you said they could.

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