Windows Xp SP3 won't start with Sata DVD-RW

October 1, 2011 at 12:41:49
Specs: Windows XP
Hy, I had old ata HDD 320 gb, and dvd-rw drive. They are broken, and I bought a new one sata 1 tb HDD and sata dvd-rw drive. Bios recognizes them, but when I install Windows XP SP3, system won't start. If I unplug the dvd drive, it start's and work fine, and again i conect a dvd (bios recognized it), but when it come to start Windows, it wont start. My motheboar is Asus M2N. What should I do??

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#1
October 1, 2011 at 12:46:27
ur motherboard supports SATA thats good.
make sure the drivers are being intalled properly in windows, go to device manager (in run command type devmgmt.msc then refresh for new plug n play hardware,if that failed try the drive on another pc if it did not work then its a faulty drive.
posting the rest of ur system specs might help us help u more. please post back results

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#2
October 1, 2011 at 13:02:09
Look in the BIOS boot order to see which drive is set to boot from. Make sure the hard drive is listed first. Sounds like it's set to boot from the dvd.

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#3
October 1, 2011 at 13:09:57
Motheboard: Asus M2n
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) processor 3200+, MMX, 3DNOW, ~2.0GHz
RAM: 1GB DDR 2
Graphic: ATI Radeon X1050
HDD: Samsung HD103UJ 1TB
System: Windows XP SP3

I forget to tell that I can install the Windows XP with, that Sata DVD Drive, and when I start Windows in Safe Mode, DVD work's!!!

Shoul'd I change my OS or what???


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#4
October 1, 2011 at 13:35:23
I tried to change a boot order, but these was fine, HDD is first bootabile drive, and then DVD drive. Then I let him to start's, it passed the Windows Longon screen, and then apears a black screen and stand sill.

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#5
October 1, 2011 at 13:53:04
No need to change the OS. It sounds like a hardware conflict. You could try going into safe mode, then go to device manager and disable the dvd player. Shut down and reboot and let windows detect new hardware.

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#6
October 1, 2011 at 14:14:28
Most of your descriptions stink.

"...I had old ata HDD 320 gb, and dvd-rw drive. They are broken..."

What's wrong with them ?

It's extremely unlikely two drives would stop working at the same time, although it's possible if one drive malfunctions the other drive on the same IDE data cable may not work properly.

If you've been fiddling with data cable connections or the jumper settings on the back of the drives, then neither drive worked after that, it's quite likely you have a problem with the data cable connection or with the jumper settings.

"...I bought a new one sata 1 tb HDD and sata dvd-rw drive. Bios recognizes them, but when I install Windows XP SP3, system won't start "


Were you trying to install XP from a CD in the SATA drive ?

What do you mean when you say "system won't start"
- the computer won't boot at all when the SATA DVD drive is connected ?
- the computer boots fine when the SATA DVD drive is connected but it does not boot from the XP CD in the SATA drive ?

"If I unplug the dvd drive, it start's and work fine,..."

What starts and works fine ?
Does the computer boot fine when the SATA DVD drive is not plugged in ?


"when it come to start Windows, it wont start."

Windows won't start from what ? From the Windows CD in the SATA DVD drive?
..........

"I tried to change a boot order, but these was fine, HDD is first bookable drive, and then DVD drive. Then I let him to start's, it passed the Windows Longon screen, and then apears a black screen and stand sill. "


Obviously, you must have a hard drive installed that already has XP installed on it.


Your ACTUAL problem is Windows won't load normally from the existing Windows installation.

Is that the new SATA hard drive, or the 320gb IDE drive, or another drive you haven't mentioned ?

If that's the new SATA drive, how did it get XP installed on it ?

If XP was installed on it when it was connected to another mboard, or if the XP installation was copied onto the new drive from another hard drive that had the XP installation installed on it when it was connected to a different mboard, if the other mboard is more that a little different regarding it's hardware (main chipset chips, etc.) , when you try to load Windows on your computer, XP will probably NOT load normally - you are likely to see the initial Windows graphics, then any of several things can happen, one of which is all you see is a black screen with a blinking cursor top left, and nothing further happens.

You can fix that
- by running a Repair installation of XP from the XP CD, which will NOT delete the data tha's already on the partition Windows was installed on, ,
How to do an XP Repair installation step by step:
http://www.windowsreinstall.com/win...
You will need a Windows CD of the same version as the one of your Windows installation - Home, Pro, or Pro 64 bit, - .and the Product Key, preferably the one that was used to install it, but it can be one for the same version as the one of your Windows installation.
In most cases you get the Product Key from the official Microsoft sticker on your computer case, or from the official Microsoft sticker that came with your Windows CD if it has not been stuck to the case, or if you can't find that or don't have that, you can use a program to find the Product Key your Windows installation is presently using, BEFORE you run the Repair Setup (Repair install) - e.g. search for: keyfinder, by Jelly Bean whatever.
NOTE that if you don't know the Product Key that was used for the non working Windows installation, search for keyfinder, by Jelly Bean whatever - They have Keyfinder Faqs there - you CAN get it to find the Product Key on the non working Windows installation.

- or by installing Windows from scratch from the Windows CD which WILL delete the data that's already on the partition Windows was installed on.

In either case you need to boot the computer FROM THE XP CD, NOT from any hard drive !

I'm assuming you DO have a suitable XP CD of the same version as the Windows installation - e.g. OEM Home, OEM Pro, or OEM Pro 64 bit.. Whether it has SP1 or later SPx updates included isn't important, they can be re-nstalled later, but it must have at least SP1 updates included in order for it to recognize the full size of your SATA hard drive.

The bios Setup Boot Order or similar settings list must have CD-rom drive or similar listed before (above) hard drive or similar.
When that is correct, when the Windows CD is in the SATA DVD drive, you should see a line while booting "Press any key to boot from CD" or similar.
When you see that line , press the stated key to boot the computer from the XP CD

The Windows XP CDs have no built in support for SATA drive controllers.
If the bios Setup has the SATA drive controllers in SATA or AHCI mode, the initial files loaded from the XP CD by default will NOT detect any SATA drive controllers and therefore will NOT detect any SATA drives.

If your bios Setup IS set so the SATA drive controllers are in SATA or AHCI mode. then the EASIEST way to fix the problem of the XP CD not detecting SATA drives is to change the setting in the bios so the SATA drive controllers are in an IDE compatible mode of some sort, then SATA drives WILL be detected by the XP CD, as IDE compatible drives.
After Setup has finished, you can load the drivers for your mboard including the drivers for the SATA drive controllers, and then change the setting in the bios so the SATA drive controllers are in SATA or AHCI mode, so the SATA drives can achieve their full burst max data transfer speed..
Whatever the setting is, it's presently set to SATA or AHCI, it's changeable, and it can be changed to an IDE compatible mode of some sort, save bios settings.

It's also possible that setting is already set to an IDE compatible mode of some sort already, since you may have had no SATA drives connected to the mboard previously.


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#7
October 1, 2011 at 16:05:05
So was that;
1. my old ata dvd-rw drive has stoped to burn dvd-cd's, but he could read it, so I bough't new one, sata dvd-rw
2. after few week's of some reason hdd has stopped to work, there was this message "hdd status: bad", and I bough't a new one also sata 1tb

I conected these two drives, bios recognised them. I have installed the Windows XP SP3 with this sata dvd on sata hdd, and the system work when I unplug the sata dvd, if I plug sata dvd, system won't start, sometimes it stopped on windows log on screen, somtimes it passed it and after that logon screen apears a black screen, and noting more.

dvd-drive work's I can work with it on safe mode, but that is to slow, so I need your help!

My English is not so good, so I can't explain you exactly what's wrong.

Sorry if I disturb YOU in some work!!!! :D


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#8
October 1, 2011 at 19:02:30
"My English is not so good, so I can't explain you exactly what's wrong."

Type your descriptions as well as you can in your own language, then use a free web translator program to translate that into Englsh, copy the resulting text, and place in a post here.

E.g. go here:
http://translate.google.com/#

You can also translate our English text to your language.

If that doesn't have your language, tell us which language you know best - there are other web based translator programs.
........


"I have installed the Windows XP SP3 with this sata dvd on sata hdd...."

Did you use a Windows XP CD in the SATA DVD drive to install XP on the SATA hard drive when the SATA hard drive was connected to your Asus M2N motherboard ?

If yes, you were not having this problem with the SATA DVD drive while you ran Setup from the XP CD.

"...and the system work when I unplug the sata dvd,..."

Did this problem with the SATA DVD drive NOT happen for a while after you had installed XP, but since then it does happen ?

"....if I plug sata dvd, system won't start, sometimes it stopped on windows log on screen, somtimes it passed it and after that logon screen apears a black screen, and noting more."

System won't start usually is = the computer won't boot - start up - at all.

The computer not booting all the way into Windows when you try booting normally is a completely different thing.

"dvd-drive work's I can work with it on safe mode..."

Safe mode loads fewer programs and features than booting normally does, and it often draws less power from the power supply.

What is the (maximum output) wattage capacity of your power supply - xxx watts ?

Do you have a video card installed in a motherboard slot ?
If yes, what is it's model ?
(RIGHT click on My Computer - Properties - Hardware - Device Manager - Display Adapters - it's model.)


Your mboard may have something defective about it that causes a problem with the DVD drive being connected ONLY when you load Windows normally.

Your M2N motherboard is relatively old.

Some mboards develop this problem - electrolytic capacitors were installed on them that were not properly made, and they fail eventually - the mboard manufacturer didn't know they were improperly made at the time the mboard was made.

Open up your case and examine the mboard to see if you have bad capacitors, and/or other findable signs of mboard damage .

What to look for, mboard symptoms, example pictures:
http://www.badcaps.net/pages.php?vid=5
Home page that site
- what the problem is caused by
- he says there are STILL bad capacitors on more recent mboards.
http://www.badcaps.net/

Pictures of blown capacitors, other components, power supplies, fried Athlon cpus, etc.:
http://www.halfdone.com/Personal/Jo...


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#9
October 1, 2011 at 19:26:20
You need to boot to Safe Mode with Networking and download the latest drivers for your DVD drive for XP. Install the driver and reboot to normal.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#10
October 2, 2011 at 07:41:37
Your DVD drive doesn't need any specfic drivers - it uses generic drivers that are built into Windows..

However, you MUST install the drivers for your mboard after XP's Setup has finished.


XP doesn't have the drivers built in for most things that first came out after XP was first released, circa 2001, and it doesn't have some of the drivers built in for things made before that.

Whenever you load Windows from a regular Windows CD (or DVD) from scratch, after Setup is finished you must load the drivers for the mboard, particularly the main chipset drivers, in order for Windows to have the proper drivers for and information about your mboard hardware, including it's AGP or PCI-E, ACPI, USB 2.0 if it has it, and hard drive controller support. If you have a generic system and have the CD that came with the mboard, all the necessary drivers are on it. If you load drivers from the web, brand name system builders and mboard makers often DO NOT have the main chipset drivers listed in the downloads for your model - in that case you must go to the maker of the main chipset's web site, get the drivers, and load them.

Your drives will probably NOT be able to run at the max speed they are capable of, and Windows ACPI support for the mboard (Standby, Hibernate, Wake on..., sometimes Restart and booting normally) may NOT work properly,
until AFTER you have installed the main chipset drivers !


Downloads for Asus M2N
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AM...

Chipset - MUST install

Nvidia Chipset Driver Package V15.56 for Windows 32bit xp
(Probably includes the 32 bit SATA drive controller drivers ?)

Audio -

SoundMAX ADI1988A Audio Driver V5.10.01.6110 for Windows 2000/XP/2003.

Others -

Nvidia Chipset Driver Program for Windows 2000/XP

Utilities - optional

ATK0110 driver for WindowsXP/Vista/Win7 32&64-bit

Microsoft Windows 2000/XP/2003 HD Audio Patch KB888111

ASUS Update V7.13.04 Install Program for Windows 2000, 2003, XP (32 & 64 bit)
(It will find and offer newer versions of software)


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