Windows 95 I/O Error First Boot

March 7, 2010 at 14:05:01
Specs: Windows 95 OEM Version
Hello, I just installed windows 95 on virtual box on a fat 32 file system, when I finished the installation, it said to restart the computer, so I restarted the virtual box session and the error message came up "I/O Disk Error"... I reinstalled many times but it still did the same thing. This also happened when I tried to install on my laptop. The install cd is new with no scratches so I am stumped. Need Urgent Answer!

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#1
March 7, 2010 at 14:49:19
I'm curious why you're messing with Win95 in the 1st place? How much RAM are you allocating to the virtual machine? Keep it under 512MB.

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#2
March 7, 2010 at 16:28:30
... i keep it at 128 mb... I've been through this before RAM who-blah with win95 before, I just need a answer.

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#3
March 7, 2010 at 17:16:12


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#4
March 7, 2010 at 18:28:18
Which Virtual Box ?

Sun VirtualBox® ??

If so, I know nothing about Virtual boxes, but I did find this...

Welcome to VirtualBox.org!
http://www.virtualbox.org/

Sun VirtualBox®
User Manual
http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/Us...

Chapter 3. Configuring virtual machines
Supported guest operating systems
Since VirtualBox is designed to provide a generic virtualization environment for x86 systems, it may run operating systems of any kind, even those that are not officially supported by Sun Microsystems. However, our focus is to optimize the product's performance for a select list of guest systems:

DOS / Windows 3.x / 95 / 98 / ME
Limited testing has been performed. Use beyond legacy installation mechanisms not recommended. No Guest Additions available.

Status: Guest OSes
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Gues...
Win 98 is listed
Win 95 is not listed.
......

Can not install Win95
http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/4249

I think the problem happens when 16-bit code has to be emulated. I don't know why, but any OS using 16 bit code has many failures in Virtualbox (MSDOS, WIN95,98,Me).
http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/2865

In one of those two a guy mentioned he installed WIN 95 OSR2 no probem. Is yours 0SR2 or later ? The vast majority of Win 95 CDs out there are an older version than that.


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#5
March 7, 2010 at 20:36:08
Ya, mine is OSR2 (usb support), but this error happened on my laptop too. This is really irritating me, not working on both my laptop and SunVirtualBox

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#6
March 7, 2010 at 21:16:29
Your first post isn't very clear.
Were you trying to install Win 95 in a Virtual box that was installed in the laptop's operating system, or just trying to install Win95 on the laptop?
If the former, what operating system does the laptop have on it?

"Ya, mine is OSR2 (usb support),"

It has USB support but it's not as good as in WIN 98 and later. It also has an earlier version of FAT32 support. Earlier versions of 95 can't recognize FAT32 partitions at all, and no Windows version ME and earlier (other than NT) can natively recognize NTFS partitions.


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#7
March 8, 2010 at 15:22:30
No, you did not understand correctly. I first tried installing it on my laptop, but the same I/O error orrcured. Then I tried installing it on VirtualBox on my desktop pc but the I/o error also occured. If it still does not work, should I try fat16, even though the warnings. I already know that NTFS does not work, so should I try fat16 (i think it has a limited disk space.) im desperate now

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#8
March 9, 2010 at 13:19:51
The problem is NOT that I don't understand - it's that your information is NOT stated clearly enough, or you didn't supply enough info !

"I first tried installing it on my laptop, but the same I/O error orrcured. "

Clear as mud.

Were you trying to install Win95 on the laptop by booting the laptop from the Win 95 CD,
or
were you trying to install Win95 on the laptop by running the Win 95 Setup from the existing operating system on the laptop
or
were you trying to install Win 95 in a virtual box that had been already installed in the existing operating system on the laptop ???


"Then I tried installing it on VirtualBox on my desktop pc but the I/o error also occured. "

Did you get all the way through Win 95's Setup to it's very end (Setup restarts the computer several times; you see "The computer will Restart in xx seconds" or similar at the end of every stage.) before you got the I/O error, or did that happen before Win 95's Setup got to it's very end, in both cases ?

"If it still does not work, should I try fat16, even though the warnings."

What warnings ?
If the partition you want to make or the hard drive total size is larger than 512mb, you get a message about enabling large hard drive support or similar - is that the message you're referring to ?

Are you SURE you have a OSR2 CD ? That would be printed on the CD's surface.

Win 95 version OSR2 or later (and the orginal Win 98) supports an earlier version of FAT32 partitioning. You don't need to install it on a FAT (FAT16) partition.
When you run Win 95's Setup, whether you can use FAT (FAT16, or lower) or FAT32 partitioning depends on the size of the partition you're making. If the partition is <= ~2.1gb - ~2,150mb - you can choose either FAT (FAT16, or lower) or FAT32, and you can make up to 4 ~2.1gb FAT (FAT16) partitions (~8.4gb total) on a drive. If the partition you're making is > ~2.1gb, you have only the FAT32 choice.

Did you install Win 95 on the laptop drive on an existing FAT32 partition made by Win 98SE or later ? Since Win 95 version OSR2 or later and the original Win 98 supports an earlier version of FAT32 partitioning, you MAY have problems if you install Win 95 on an existing FAT32 partition made by Win 98SE or later.

Did you install the Win 95 partition at the beginning of the hard drive's space on the laptop, or farther into the hard drive's space ?
Is the partition for the operating system on the desktop you installed the virtual box on NOT on the first partition on the hard drive ?
If you did the latter, or if the operating system on the desktop you installed the vitual box on is NOT the first partition on the drive, the Win 95 partition, or Win 95 in the virtual box, may not be bootable.

I know from experience you can get all the way through Win 95 to Win XP's Setup successfuly, and only THEN you may have problems when the finished Windows installation is supposed to start up for the first time.

You can get all the way through Setup even if the Boot Order settings or similar in the bios Setup are not correct for the hard drive the operating system was installed on - it's only when the finished Windows installation is supposed to start up for the first time that you have a problem if that's not correct.

Win 95 to 98SE, probably ME too, prefer to have the partition Windows itself is installed on at the beginning of a hard drive's space. If you install them beyond certain limits on the hard drive, you can't boot the operating system from the Windows partition - the partition Setup installed Windows itself on.
That's not a problem for 2000 and above. (I know almost nothing about Windows NT.)

Did the laptop hard drive still have another operating system on it after you installed Win 95 ??


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#9
March 9, 2010 at 21:16:11
Ok, lets clear this up again. I first tried to install it on my laptop by booting the setup via FreeDos and partiton via gParted. Now, I do not think my install cd is OSR2, because it does not state that, and it only says "Now with USB Support...". The error was when I was prompted to restart at end, when I clicked the restart button at the end of the installation, it failed and got the I/o error. Then i tried restarting normally, same I/o error. Now this is exactly the same that happened in VirtualBox. Its a pattern...

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#10
March 10, 2010 at 12:08:26
"The error was when I was prompted to restart at end, when I clicked the restart button at the end of the installation, it failed and got the I/o error. Then i tried restarting normally, same I/o error..."

Ok.

"Now this is exactly the same that happened in VirtualBox."

What operating system did you install the virtual box in ?

Is that operating system on the first partition on the hard drive ?


Please ANSWER ALL the other the questions I asked in Response 8 ! !

Is the 95 CD an Upgrade CD, or an OEM ( oem always = Full version ) or Full retail version CD ?

"I first tried to install it on my laptop by booting the setup via FreeDos and partiton via gParted."

That's not particularly useful to me, without more details.

"Now, I do not think my install cd is OSR2, because it does not state that, and it only says "Now with USB Support...".

Ok.
I was assuming OSR2 or OSR2.x or OSR 2.0 or OSR 2.x would be printed on the CD - I've never seen one that I can recall myself, although my brother has one. All the Win 95 CDs I can recall seeing are older versions. I have only one, an Upgrade version.

By the way, I never used Win 95 myself, although I have worked on other people's computers that had it - none of those were OSR2 or later. .
I went from using MsDos 6.2 and Win 3.1 to Win 98SE .
I have worked on other people's computers that had Win 98, the orginal version.

I did did some research - all Win 95 versions that support USB also support (an earler version of) FAT32 partitioning .

To find which version you have....
Insert the Win 95 CD in a drive on a working computer.
If a message pops up, close it.
Go to Windows Explorer - My Computer
( In Win 95 thru XP.....
Start - Programs or All Programs - Accessories - Windows Explorer - My Computer)

Click on the Win CD drive letter to shows the CD's contents - click once on Setup.exe to highlight it, RIGHT click on it with the cursor on the highlighted file, select Properties - Version - Product version

See the versions listed in this:
Availability of Universal Serial Bus Support in Windows 95
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q25...

If that doesn't help, double click on the \WIN95 folder to show it's contents - the date of most of if not all the files and folders should reveal the version it must be, according to the Microsoft info.

Info about enabling the Win 95 USB support here:
http://www.usbman.com/Win95%20USB%2...


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#11
March 10, 2010 at 16:52:49
I installed it on windows vista in virtualbox. When I tried installing it on both my laptop and virtualbox I had only one primary partition, so, of course, it is on the first partition. And, for the 3rd, 4th, or 5th time, it is the OEM Full Version...

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#12
March 10, 2010 at 19:40:12
"And, for the 3rd, 4th, or 5th time, it is the OEM Full Version..."

You didn't mention OEM or Full at all previously in the body of your posts, but I see I missed OEM in the blue bar info in the first post.

I'll answer more later.


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#13
March 11, 2010 at 13:48:07
Did you determine which version of 95 you have?
See the latter part of Response 10 if you haven't.

Things I've found so far.

You can install Win 95 OSR2 by booting with an earlier operating system or with a Win 95 OSR2 or later operating system not newer that on the CD, but you may not be successful if you boot with something newer than whatever version of 95 the CD has on it.

Since Win 95 version OSR2 or later 95 versions and the original Win 98 supports an earlier version of FAT32 partitioning, you MAY have problems if you install Win 95 on an existing FAT32 partition made by Win 98SE or later.

Did you install Win 95 on the laptop drive on an existing FAT32 partition made by Win 98SE or later, or one made by the FreeDos operating system ?

Does the laptop have a built in floppy drive, or do you have a USB floppy drive that works with it ?

I already knew the earlier Win 95 CD versions can make a bootable Win 95 Startup Disk floppy during Setup, apparently so can OSR2 or later, and most if not all OEM and Full retail 95 CDs originally come/came with a bootable Win 95 Startup Disk or other bootable floppy disk but it doesn't come with the lines in Autoexec.bat and Config.sys for the support of CD drives - you have to add them yourself.

If the laptop or the desktop computer has a floppy drive, did you make a Win 95 Startup Disk floppy while running Setup?


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#14
March 13, 2010 at 04:17:32
mmm Coming on the tail end of what apears to have beome a slightly accrimonious discussion???

I seem to recall that were issues with '95 and processors in excess of 350MgHrz? This especially with regard to AMD etc...

The error mesage was an I/O error etc...

Perhaps... perhaps... perhaps... the processor is too fast for the OS...?

http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

was a brief discussion re' the problem.

And a trawl via google/yahoo etc. for:

Windows 95 I/O Error First Boot

or variations of it...

will bring up a few ideas too (although possibly you may have already done this trawl?).

If you include a reference to AMD as well that will produce the AMD fix too...

The issue was so common that many were able to get a free upgrade of '95 (all versions) to '98 from whomever...

Also a "long" shot... mainly as '95 isn't too happy with a lot of RAM; although there are workarounds once running OK... (and I suspect you may know them already?). Reduce RAM during installation to less than 512Meg - preferably nearer 128/256Meg if possible? It may help get it installed at least; after-which install balance of RAM and make the tweak that gets around the RAM and '95 limitations...?


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