Solved Will this desktop combo push quake live at 250 fps on low se

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December 5, 2015 at 01:12:01
Specs: Windows 10, I5
I am a truck driver and will need to transfer this pc to and from my house occasionally. I bought an expensive asus gaming laptop once and man that thing made my hands sweat even with a cooling pad so I returned it. I just need a desktop that wont use a lot of wattage due to my truck and the case to be as small as possible so i can place it in my luggage bag. I only use computers to view the web and play quake live nothing else so will this be enough? The last pc I built seven years ago had a geforce 7800 card that pushed quake 3 at a solid 250 fps so I hope and assume this pc is just as powerful. I dont know anything about the radeon gpu which is built in.

http://m.newegg.com/Combo/ComboDeta...

Oh I just came across this combo too I like that the video card is separate:

http://m.newegg.com/Combo/ComboDeta...

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#1
December 5, 2015 at 06:39:59
As I said in your other post, Quake Live is nothing more than an updated version Quake 3 Arena (circa 1999). The system requirements are extremely low by today's standards.

http://www.minimum-requirements.com...

And 250FPS is an unnecessary goal to shoot for. I guarantee you will not notice any difference between 100FPS & 250FPS. Notice the GPUs listed in the recommended specs are "nVidia GeForce 7800 / AMD Radeon X1800". The integrated Radeon 7660D GPU in the AMD A10 APU listed in your 1st link beats both of them.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

That being said, it would be better to get a newer A10 APU which has Radeon R7 graphics. Also, make sure to get the correct RAM. The combo lists DDR3-1600 but the memory controller in the A10-5800K supports up to DDR3-1866; the latest A10s support up to DDR3-2133.

The 2nd system you linked to has a motherboard based on an old 700-series chipset. For best performance with an AM3+ CPU, look for a board based on a 900-series chipset. Also, the CPU is rated at 125W & the GPU rated at 110W, so this will not be a low wattage system.

You really should pick & choose your own components to make sure they "compliment" each other rather than relying on a poorly configured combo package.


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December 5, 2015 at 07:06:18
Thanks, yeah I will switch out some components. I've been playing Quake competitively since 1999 and there is a difference with framerate. I can jump further with a higher framerate. Back when they allowed 333 fps I could make impossible jumps across very long distances. I even created a video about it. I am able to chase down players running from me and can even run past them even when they strafe correctly at a lower fps so it makes a difference. I agree that fps doesn't matter on a lot of other games like counterstrike.

On certain maps with a lot of players, my fps drops from 250 to 130 and I play horribly. Its like everyone is moving way faster as they skip around. On smaller maps with less people and better frames I dominate easily. When I had a top end PC years ago this game was too easy even against the top players in the country so I know with a good system to smooth things out people will say that I am one of the best again.

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December 5, 2015 at 07:17:02
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Board $59 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

APU $142 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

RAM $47 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

PSU $45 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

SSD $78 - http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-I...

DVD Burner $21 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Cases are generally personal preference but I suggest one with a top mounted PSU:

Case $40 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Total = $432

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#4
December 5, 2015 at 07:46:44
Thanks so much I will check those out. I used to be able to figure all this stuff out on my own. It blows my mind that a cpu can have integrated graphics now. Not sure how that works since I am used to the big graphics cards using up two slots and a small cpu can perform the same graphics? Weird. Oh and your dvd burner links to the ssd drive. I already have that samsung ssd drive in my laptop.

BTW since the motherboard and CPU have integrated graphics I will have to make sure to only select one of them in the device manager? I use the motherboards DVI output for the cpus graphics?

I noticed the motherboard you linked to has bad reviews about working with newer cpus. How about this one?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E...

I will buy from Amazon since my chase credit card is offering 12% cashback for Amazon this month.

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#5
December 5, 2015 at 13:38:50
BTW I have been studying all of the different parts and beginning to see the difference now. I may go with the AMD A8.

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#6
December 5, 2015 at 14:00:25
OK, I fixed the DVD burner link.

The board I posted is the same as was in your combo. Notice that it's a socket FM2+ board. The one you linked to has the older FM2 socket.

And the thing about the Radeon GPU integrated in the APU is that you can add a relatively cheap Radeon R7 240 (or 250) graphics card & run hybrid crossfire.

http://wccftech.com/amd-kaveri-dual...

"I may go with the AMD A8"

The A8 has a weaker GPU.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9217/...

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#7
December 6, 2015 at 17:21:35
Great thanks that link was a great resource. Though I may have to go with the 65 watt A8 since my truck uses batteries to power my electric appliances I need to. I hope its enough to run Quake Live in low settings at 250 fps

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#8
December 7, 2015 at 10:04:02
Quick question about this mobo please

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00J...

It shows it can take 2400(OC) ram. Does that mean I have to overclock it or just slap 2400 ram in it and it will work?


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#9
December 8, 2015 at 05:28:41
It means you have to overclock to attain DDR3-2400 speed. Also, pay attention to the motherboard chipset. The board you linked to has an A78 rather than an A88X.

http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/c...


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December 9, 2015 at 20:53:30
Thx. Something happened yesterday that has me second guessing building a new desktop. I was in a game with an aimbotter, no question about it very obvious. However the idiots in the game wouldn't vote kick him. Anyone who would spectate him would see it in a second since his aim rapidly locked in to targets even through walls. If there were a lot of enemies on the screen his bot jerked between mulitple targets back and forth without missing. The problem is that everyone still allowed him to play. So I wonder if I should even bother if a real cheater is allowed. Sure there are false accusations on some players but this was obvious. I recorded a demo of it.

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