Which adaptor to buy for laptop HD to PC HD

Acer Aspire 5738-6969 notebook
August 24, 2010 at 10:09:22
Specs: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium, 2 GHz / 2999 MB
Hi guys

My laptop recently died and I'm pretty sure I've narrowed it down to the HD.

To be sure, I want to hook it up to my home PC so I can run diagnostics on it. What's the best way of doing this?

Keep in mind that it will not boot at all even from o/s disk. I plan to remove the laptop HD.

I know I need some kind of 2.5" to 3.5" converter/adaptor but can anyone recommend one.

Both PC and laptop are SATA.

Would something like this work?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-co...

Sorry if links aren't allowed.

Thanks

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#1
August 24, 2010 at 10:16:10
computer should boot, even with no HD. remove the HD and see if you can get into the bios, if not you have additional problems.

http://distrowatch.com/index.php?di...

should be able to run this without a HD

larry


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#2
August 24, 2010 at 11:03:36
Hi Larry

The laptop will boot to the 'Acer' screen and I can get to the BIOS no problem by pressing F2, it just won't load Windows. I can't see anyway to run diagnostics from the BIOS. Unless you can tell me other wise....

Is there anyway I can run a diagnostic on the HD without removing it from the laptop and connecting it as a slave to my PC?

Thanks

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#3
August 24, 2010 at 11:32:07
If you still need to get files or anything off of the hard drive I would recommend going with an adapter like this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

It will plug in via USB to the other computer so you can just copy the files from the hard drive. No need to break open the box and add it as a slave. Pretty useful little device, I use it all the time at work.

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#4
August 24, 2010 at 12:19:01
Something like this docking station is much more useful:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#5
August 24, 2010 at 12:25:33
judged

Watch the POST screens at start up to see if the hard drive is being configured by the BIOS. If all you see is the Acer splash screen then boot into the BIOS and see if you can disable all logos. If not, try hitting esc key when booting to bypass the logo. Also while in the BIOS look at the configuration settings for the drives. That should tell you something.

What happens when you boot using a recovery CD or your restore CD?

If none of the above work download a live version of Linux. Install the CDR and boot to it. You can use it to recover personal files, assuming your hard drive is OK and Windows is just pooched. Try Linux puppy. It is small and can configure your hardware. It will not write anything to your drive unless you tell it to. Get it at the link below..

http://puppylinux.org/main/index.ph...

There is no reason to remove your hard drive at this point.


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#6
August 24, 2010 at 12:25:34
Thanks for the tips so far guys.

Update.....

I removed the HD earlier (very easy) and looking inside my PC all I need is a Male-Female Serial ATA cable to connect it (there's already a spare power cable in the space where another internal HD goes)

Unfortunately, I only have a Male-Male SATA cable (god knows why!) so all I need is the correct cable and I can hook it up and test it.

I'll let you know how I get on and thanks once again :-)

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#7
August 24, 2010 at 12:48:35
"...it will not boot at all even from o/s disk"

"The laptop will boot to the 'Acer' screen and I can get to the BIOS no problem by pressing F2, it just won't load Windows."

If you can get into the bios, the computer IS booting fine - it's just not presently loading the operating system on the hard drive.

In order for you to be able to boot from a bootable operating system disk, the Boot Order or similar settings in the bios must be set so a CD drive or similar is listed before any hard drive. When that is set correctly, you will see a line while booting "Press any key to boot from CD" or similar - you must press the key while that line is displayed - you usually have 5 seconds to do that.
There should normally be no network boot listing before a hard drive in that list.
See Response 1:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...

OR - with most laptops, you can press a certain key while booting when a line regarding that is on the screen to choose one device in a list to boot from, even when the boot order settings are not correct.

"Is there anyway I can run a diagnostic on the HD without removing it from the laptop and connecting it as a slave to my PC?"

Yes, but you must make, on another computer, and be be able to boot from, a bootable diagnostics CD.

E.g.
Seagate's Seatools will test any brand of hard drive.
Do the long test.
http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.j...

If the hard drive itself tests okay, any data problems found can be fixed, one way or another.

By the way, the bootable version of Seatools can't test hard drives when they're installed in an external enclosure, but the version you install in Windows can.
.........

NOTE that when you DO boot from an operating system disk, it may NOT find SATA drives at all, unless
- the mboard's bios has the SATA controllers in an IDE compatible mode, rather than a SATA mode.
- or - you load drivers for the SATA controllers for the mboard while loading files from the OS disk.
XP and 2000 CDs certainly don't have SATA controller drivers built in. I'm not sure whether that applies to Vista and Windows 7 DVDs.


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#8
August 24, 2010 at 13:04:11
There is probably an adapter on the back of the hard drive. Try removing it.

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#9
August 24, 2010 at 13:50:09
Thanks so far for the advice guys.

Update....

Discovered that I should not be allowed anywhere near a computer... The cable I had was correct all along!

Hooked up the laptop HD to my PC, changed the BIOS so the SATA controller was on, then booted up.

My home PC then booted to the Windows 7 splash screen and froze. So I rebooted and pressed F12 for boot sequence. Here I ran the Hard Drive Diagnostic.

The SATA 0 (onboard PC HD) came back pass, but the laptop one came up Fail with: Return Code 7 Reason Code: 7V0V12JHNF@

From having a look online, I believe this would normally suggest a broken HD! Success! (or failure if you look at it the other way! lol)

Is the reason it won't boot right into Windows because the drive is probably broken? I'd like to be able to get in if possible to run other tests on the laptop HD....

Is there another BIOS setting I should be changing at all?

Thanks

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#10
August 24, 2010 at 14:33:50
I am not sure you can depend on built in drive tools. The drive from one computer most likely won't boot to Windows when installed in another computer. Connect the drive as a second device and boot to the original drive. Then go to My Computer or Disk Management to see if your laptop drive is working.

The fact that you may not be able to access the data on the drive means nothing, that is by design.

If you really want to check the laptop drive out then look at the brand and then go to their website to get the disk utility. Post the brand of drive here and we will help you.

More likely your Windows installation is just screwed up.


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#11
August 24, 2010 at 14:47:08
Othehill

I wasn't trying to boot from the laptop HD, I was booting from the PC HD. But I reckon that because the laptop HD is broken, it's affected the booting up from the other one.

I merely attached the laptop HD as a second device. When I ran the diagnostic it passed the PC HD and failed the laptop HD.

It's a Seagate drive if that helps. What do mean disk utility?

Thanks

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#12
August 24, 2010 at 14:56:03
The diagnostic you ran is probably the right one. That is a disk utility. I suggest you read the link below.

http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/...


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#13
August 24, 2010 at 15:10:37
I appreciate the link, but seeing how I can't boot windows on the laptop, or on the PC when the laptop HD is connected, I don't see how I can use the software?

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#14
August 24, 2010 at 16:13:54
You download the utility from a different computer and burn it to CDR. Then boot to the CDR. Get the DOS version.

Or if you still have the drive connected to a different computer you can download the Windows version and run it from there. The diagnostic you have is the short version. The download may be able to fix the defects.

Did you read the entire help file?


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#15
August 27, 2010 at 04:39:24
OtheHill

I just had a quick look at the time.

I will read the whole thing. I've got a new WG HDD coming for £35 now, but I'll still see if I can do anything with the old one.

Thanks for all the help and advice guys

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