Solved Which 2TB Laptop(2.5) HDD Is Most Reliable(Model,Vendor)?

November 3, 2020 at 12:21:56
Specs: Windows 3.1(x16) on FreeDOS(x32)+Windows NT 5.2(x64)+Windows NT 6(x64)+Windows NT 7(x64)., 2.6 to 3.5GHz/10GB.
Greetings,i am about to upgrade most of laptops in my wide-family with 2TB HDDs,may U,pls.,advise me the most reliable model(my priority is longevity of the drive).
I already upgraded 2 laptops,1 with Samsung Spinpoint 2TB HDD,other with Seagete Barracuda 2TB,because Samsung Spinpoint was discontinued.I also have another 2TB Seagate Barracuda bought,but be4 i installed it,i found some articles(mostly user reviews in e-shops) claiming,Seagate HDDs r not reliable & often fails.I now write from that 1 laptop with Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD with 4 OSs installed in multiboot & its performance is incredible in all OSs(Windows 3.1; NT 5.2; NT 6.0 & NT 7.0),Everest shows,its temperature is 37 to 39C,is it good or too high(room temperature is about 20C)?
HDD is very fast,even in AF-unaware OS,no recognizable performance difference between AF-aware & AF-unaware OS,so the R-M-W must be very effective,partitions were created by Partition Guru Free & r aligned,disk is MBR with 4 primary partitions with 512B allocation units,1 partition is FAT32,other 3 r NTFS,boot takes 2 seconds to Windows 3.1, 20 to 30 seconds to Windows XP x64, 50 to 60 seconds to Windows Vista x64 & 1 minute to Windows 7 x64,i had nothing faster yet(true is,this is my 1st SATA 3 computer,but my partner has also SATA 3,& it is much slower(i think,because of a huge malware known as Windows 10),RAM is almost same.All copying,downloading,installing,etc.with Seagate Barracuda is extremely fast,i am impressed by performance,but also afraid,it can be paid by shorter lifespan,i have read many articles,Seagate Barracudas & Firecudas r HDDs with best performance,but with much shorter longevity,than Western Digital,so i planned to buy Western Digital HDDs for laptops next to be upgraded,but then i found also articles claiming quite the opposite,that Seagate has better longevity,than Western Digital & then i searched farther & find about the same amount of articles & failure rate tests with opposite results,50% of the internet says "Western Digital has better longevity than Seagate",50% of the internet says "Seagate has better longevity than Western Digital",then i find an article claiming,that both is true,1 for some models,the other for another models,but most tests describes server & desktop disks,i can found nothing about laptop HDDs,no study about 2TB 2.5" laptop HDDs,may some1 advise me,what particular model of 2TB 2.5" laptop HDD has best longevity?
Should i buy Seagate,Western Digital,or Toshiba?
Which particular model?
Some of the disks will also be used for multiboot systems,some of these also for AF-unaware OSs(mainly these for my own computers,as i collect old SW),so,pls.,include the conditions,for which i need the disks,so what 2TB 2.5" HDD has best longevity using often R-M-W(which model & brand has better backward compatibility functionality?
I had read,i.e.Seagate uses quite different methods for R-M-W & AF translation & alignment).
For prolong HDD longevity i do not use hibernation & i tried to disable virtual memory on laptops with huge RAM,as this with 10GB RAM,but even in settings of virtual memory of each OS i c,it is disabled,Task Manager shows about 1GB of page file & in all roots i have 10GB pagefile.sys ,only Windows 3.1 respects the settings & really do not swapping,i know,it is impossible to disable virtual memory entirely in Windows newer than Win16,but i hoped to reduce swapping as much,as possible,it is also clear from observations,any other Windows does less HDD access,than Windows 10,i.e.in this laptop HDD activity in Windows 7 with medium load is about 10% of that of the laptop with Windows 10 with almost same RAM & CPU doing about the same tasks,so i hope,less activity by avoiding Windows 10 can compensate more internal activity to R-M-W with about same resulting lifespan,fix me,if i am wrong,but this is secondary,the primary question is,which particular 2TB laptop drive will withstand longer the usage conditions described above?
If this cannot be answered,i need at least data about longevity in standard conditions.
For example,i had read,Seagate Pro line is better,than standard line & Western Digital Black line is better,than Blue line,but is better Seagate Barracuda Pro or Western Digital Black?
& exist the WD Black in 2.5" version?
If not,the question would be between WD Blue & Seagate Barracuda Pro?
The most valuable r personal experiences with particular drives in multiboot conditions with older Windows included.
Will be glad for any advice or personal experience with 2TB laptop hard disk drives.
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#1
November 3, 2020 at 12:52:14
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I find the Western Digital blue series (2.5ins) very reliable. And they’re not expensive when compared to assorted SSD.

If opting for SSD the Crucial are my first choice.


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#2
November 4, 2020 at 05:14:23
Greetings,thank U,Trvlr,i found in meantime,WD Black,nor Seagate Barracuda Pro does not exist in 2TB 2.5" variant,so it cms,my options r narrowed to WD Blue,Seagate standard Barracuda & Toshiba,i am disappointed,no Pro line exist for my particular needs.
Thank U for Your opinion/experiences with WD Blue,i will wait for more opinions & personal experiences till November 17,when i will get next money & then buy according to opinions & experiences of Users here,i also do more trust to Western Digital,i am sure,this brand was the best,but i do not know,is it still same reliable,like it was in IDE era or SATA 1 & 2 era,now with less concurrents left they may be less motivated to maintain same quality,this is my only worry with Western Digital,other is,i studied the specs of all 3 concurrent producers left & the parameters in data sheets r quite the same,even data about Mean Time Between Failures & reliability,for now WD wins with 51% trust over 49% of Seagate.
I definitely want HDDs,not SSDs.
Thank U for Your opinion & waiting for other opinions to have a representative poll.
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#3
November 4, 2020 at 06:55:39
I think it was riider who pointed mto WD blue 2.5 drives; as being more reliable for longer term storage than an SSD - when in an external/usb situation. Frequently in that use they may not be powered up for longish time periods (i.e. if used as archive storage); and may suffer from data loss unless occasionally powered up...

The bog standard hdd of course doesn't suffer that risk; but of course needs to be properly housed (as do SSD) and stored (and not dropped!).


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#4
November 4, 2020 at 13:55:30
Thanx,yes,i read this too about flash drives generally+their limited write cycles+flash drives of all kind(SSD,USB,memory cards…) fails without any warning whole @ 1ce,HDDs warns be4 their fatal failure by age,none of my HDDs died @ 1ce,they changes their sounds,has some strange behavior,slows down,has bad blocks & fails block by block,most of my oldest HDDs worked still months or years even with bad blocks,i backed them up,but i was curious,how long takes a HDD Alzheimer,so used further for non critical things,backed up daily new files & an old Toshiba IDE HDD worked 10 more years even with bad blocks till total death(because obviously sector 0 was still fine,which is strange,because it is the most used sector & instead some blocks in the middle of disk failed),another very old disk lived 2 years after 1st bad block & another about a year,but that was all IDE disks with very low density(80MB to 1.3GB)-it was very long ago,but i hope,HDDs still warns about their age by strange sounds & other behavior,flash drives never,all my died @ 1ce with no warning & full performance right be4 their death,so HDDs dies slower & all old HDD screams "i am in wrong condition,i am about to die,move my data elsewhere!"(i do backups regularly,but if i know,drive is in wrong condition,i can shorten the backup intervals,buy another drive be4 fatal failure of old)…& i love their sound(which also causes,i notice any change in their normal sound) & i also think,HDDs r better evolved technology,SSDs cms to be still in beta-testing,not very trustworthy technology to me & if i use flash memories,only for applications with very little rewrites,i.e.i have an SD card in most of my laptops as a backup media for important files & for data,i 1ce write on it & do not plan to rewrite,when i fill the SD up,i does not rewrite it,but buy a new & big backups i do on external HDD,if i run an OS from a flash drive,it is only my Windows 3.1 Live version with disabled virtual memory,as flash memories naturally dislikes rewriting,i somehow cannot understand,y there r so many advices to use SSD as a system drive even for something with such deadly amount of rewrites,like Windows 10,which always overwriting itself entirely with these forced updates & where i c Windows 10,there HDD LED never pauses to blink,so a flash memory must really suffer,if a Windows 10 runs from it & if U want to kill an SSD in few months,just let a Linux create a Swap partition on it…
I am loyal to Legacy HDDs & it still cms to a good,or @ least less risky decission,than risk with a half-developed unreliable experimantal technology maybe beyond human abilities to develop properly & reliably,as U wrote,flash memories got Alzheimer,when infrequently energized,that means,it has dangerously close to RAM & as i collecting old laptops,it is granted,sometimes i do not touch 1 for half year,so an SSD would forget something,HDD not,the only weakness of HDDs r EMP weapons existence,so a DVD-burner will be never out of fashion,but an external HDD in a Faraday-cage can also withstand an EMP warfare(have 1 under construction,as humans looks enough crazy to use EMP bombs).
Never holding a laptop in only 1 hand,not using near water,nor without a surge protector,well packing surrounded with soft materials,when traveling(but it loox,all traveling is over because of new world order),same i packing external HDDs,when not in use,in soft materials,& i very dislike sports like disk throwing.

Interesting myth is about loss of data because of traveling by a streetcar,subway,or trolleybus sitting near to its motor(s) or pulse-regulators with a laptop or external HDD,never had any problem,only confirmed accidents of this kind was with floppies,as they lack metal cover(Faraday-cage),even have a cell-phone in the same bag with the laptop never damaged anything on the disk,but for sure i never risked to travel in an electric locomotive with any of my laptops,1ce i suspected a huge HV transformer right next to the weekendhouse of my grandmother,it could cause HDD failure,which occured on my oldest laptop,when i was there,but more probably it was the age of that drive,what caused the failure(partial,i was able to retrieve most of user data,it just ruined the OS-Windows 3.11,but i had a backup copy & it was simple to restore everything just by pressing * & then F5 in Norton Commander…by LPT cable from desktop,to which HDD i copied whole laptop's HDD).

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#5
November 4, 2020 at 14:06:40
Using an SD card a data backup isn’t exactly the best... I’d advise you copy anything on on the resident SD to DVD and/or an external HDD at the end of the day; certainly by the end of the week.

A NAS would also be useful, and that too regularly backed up to a stand alone HDD which never goes online (on the www).


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#6
November 4, 2020 at 16:07:14
SD is for operational backup & is additional to ext.HDD backup,i have Western Digital My Passport 2TB for main backup of every other drive,i plan to buy 4TB version next,i also consulted elsewhere,maybe it will be possible to format it as superfloppy by Rufus to enable access for older OSs,as it cannot be MBR,but i was told,if it will be superfloppy,i can access it even from old computers with XP & maybe W2K too,so i am curious,what an XP will say to a 4TB superfloppy,if it will work,it will have same range of OSs accessible like my 2TB MBR My Passport,so able to backup almost all of my computers.
My current My Passport was very useful recently,when my SD card in my BlackBerry Classic died,it was easy to restore everything from My Passport to new SD card,i lost only about 200 photos from last week & was not from a place,i cannot reach again,if i have very impressive new pictures,i backup them immediately,if something standard,1ce per week or 1ce per about 300 new pictures,most relevant pictures i backing up to almost 1 internal & 1 external HDD,DVDs r very impractical due to low capacity,so for optical media backup i plan to upgrade to BluRay,there r some BluRay replacements for Fujitsu Lifebook P772's DVD-bay,that will be more effective EMP-proof backup,will buy it in 2 or 3 months,now with the nearest money i will buy the rest HDDs for upgrades.
Interesting is,Western Digital has not 2.5" HDDs larger than 2TB in it's portfolio,so i am curious,what HDD is in 4TB version of My Passport,would be funny,if Seagate.I hope,it is not SSD,the enclosure does not seem to be larger,than that of 2TB version,even all 2.5" HDDs over 2TB r 15mm tall,so it is little mysterious,what drive is in 4TB My Passport version.
Have U this version?
It would be strange,if WD had such small 2.5" HDD with 4TB capacity,y it is sold only in enclosure & not also as internal.
Seagate obviously uses its NAS 2.5" HDDs also in external enclosured versions,but Western Digital has a surprise in the 4TB My Passport.NAS is expensive to me & i also c it vulnerable,as it is 24/7 connected to the router,thus vulnerable from internet & my UPS died,since that i use only laptops,so with NAS i would have to buy also a new UPS,but what about hackability of NAS,i assume,it is easier to wirelessly hack a NAS,than a laptop with good antimalware program.Am i right,NAS has no regular server OS,but some minimalistic embedded reduced OS similar to router's OS,so how to install an antivirus to NAS?
As U wrote,external HDDs,which r offline for most of time,r really best backup solution.
So about backup:Have U tried 4TB WD My Passport?
& about internal HDD:What disk(s) U have in Your laptop(s) & what experiences U have about reliability,how many years U run it without error,how often,etc.?
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#7
November 19, 2020 at 08:50:52
So i bought WD20SPZX,my disks will arrive tomorrow,i hope,i will have same good experiences as U,Trvlr(What Your nick means?Traveler?).

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#8
November 19, 2020 at 09:16:39
yup - traveller sans vowels; 'cos I (used to) travel a lot more than at present... From one part of the universe to another at any time...

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#9
November 19, 2020 at 10:02:41
So my next guess:R U a Borg & have a Transwarp hub @ home? :)
Or have U that nice,small Stargate in your basement…?
Or r U an Iconian? -That was the coolest option-Their Gateways r far more advanced than previous 2 options.
Or have U a natural wormhole?
Or do U working @ LHC?
:)
I love traveling too,for traveling to the places on the same planet i prefer trains & for traveling elsewhere…i was unable to hichhick an UFO,nor i have not Transwarp hub,nor Stargate,nor Gateway,nor wormhole,nor a starship,nor even a shuttlecraft,so unhappilly stucked on Earth & now it is even not easy to travel by train in this totalitarian regime…
So i can watch Star Trek & travel virtually,but everytime,i watching Star Trek,i realize again,i am living in the Mirror Universe…but no way to the Roddenberry Universe,but the positive is,by the quantum physics,every possible universe must exist & as various universes can have various physical laws,even a universe,we c it as impossible,may exist,so nice is,in some of the infinite number of universes Roddenberry´s dreams r true.
By an another theory even this universe may be not real,as it may be a simulation,even it may be not scientific simulation,but only a game,which can have no backup & the player may go to WC & Her/his/its Cat can jump on the desk & throw the player´s coffee to the computer & that would be our end.
Or the user may use a not reliable HDD & we can be gone with ist failure.
Or a simulation in simulation in simulation…in simulation can overload the real computer in the topmost reality & all simulations & subsimulations may be lost.
We r responsible for our world,regardless,it is made of matter,or of bites,so we shall not consume more,than we need,nor waste more,than necessary,we should not cause pain to our human,nor non-human neighbors,etc,etc…
We r responsible for the virtual worlds,we created,so we shall backup them & use reliable drives.
We can only hope,the creatures,who created this world,r & will be same responsible,or we can hope,our reality is the topmost & is really real & no1´s coffee can fall on the computer containing this reality…
Hope,U will have not nightmeres about a Cat & a coffee larger,than our entire universe.

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#10
November 19, 2020 at 11:15:47
It's all in the mind... all in the mind... the great universal mind... and its foundation in the absolute field of pure intelligence, consciousness, infinite creativity...

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#11
November 19, 2020 at 11:30:06
I did a lot of drugs in my younger days too.

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#12
November 19, 2020 at 17:28:42
We have a new Facebook page..... ;-)

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#13
November 21, 2020 at 14:33:29
you have chose well princess leah. I have been using WD forever. My first computer was an 8088 (286) back when ram was 100 per MB. My first external HD was a WD book. The big clunky one that needed a power cord with the data cable. That was 25 years ago. If it didn't burn up in the Paradise fire I would still be using it today. As far as I'm concerned WDs are indestructible. I have heard many horror stories about all the rest. I worked at ba computer store and we installed quantum fireball 5.25" they were pretty fast running windows 95, but they made a lot of noise, and didn't last very long. Seagate, samsung. . .BOO!

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