Solved What's the Best brand for a new desktop PC (no HP please)

April 8, 2012 at 06:34:54
Specs: Windows Vista
I need to buy a new desktop computer, had an HP and in my opinion is garbage...what brand should I buy? And just so u know, I'm not smart enough nor am I interested in building my own either, as that was the reply I got from others.

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April 8, 2012 at 08:57:28
If you're unwilling or incapable of building your own, you're stuck with whatever is out there. How much are you willing to spend? And what do you want to use it for?

As kuwese stated, all major brands have low end, mid range, & high end products. And none of them actually manufacture anything. They don't make motherboards, CPUs, RAM, hard drives, power supplies, DVD drives, etc. They simply order them from the individual hardware manufacturers, assemble them in a case, then add the OS & additional crapware. And all that crapware is what can drag a system down.

Have you ever wiped the hard drive on your HP & reinstalled Windows from scratch? And I don't mean using the HP recovery disc which will just reinstall the crapware again, I mean doing a complete reinstall using a retail WIndows disc? The difference is like night & day.



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April 8, 2012 at 07:01:04
http://www.ebuyer.com/search?sort=p...

Googling is quicker than waiting for an answer....


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#2
April 8, 2012 at 07:33:04
It's not the name on the front that determines which machines are bad, it's the components that make up the machine that determine how it will hold up. E machines has a reputation for using junky power supplies for example. Without being tech savvy, it's hard for the average person to determine what's good and what's not. Maybe do a google search for recommendations. My wife has a Dell now for 10 years and no issues. Any off the shelf machine you buy should be decent, but they all come with the standard Bloatware. Maybe consider a local shop to build you what you need. It depends on what you want to do with the machine that will determine what you need. Good Luck...

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April 8, 2012 at 07:53:47
Hp isn't garbage. Most brands except apple have low, mid-range and high end products, most low end products are built with cheap components(caps, psu's, screen, case etc) and have less features.
Current HP leads followed by Lenovo then Dell.

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April 8, 2012 at 08:57:28
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If you're unwilling or incapable of building your own, you're stuck with whatever is out there. How much are you willing to spend? And what do you want to use it for?

As kuwese stated, all major brands have low end, mid range, & high end products. And none of them actually manufacture anything. They don't make motherboards, CPUs, RAM, hard drives, power supplies, DVD drives, etc. They simply order them from the individual hardware manufacturers, assemble them in a case, then add the OS & additional crapware. And all that crapware is what can drag a system down.

Have you ever wiped the hard drive on your HP & reinstalled Windows from scratch? And I don't mean using the HP recovery disc which will just reinstall the crapware again, I mean doing a complete reinstall using a retail WIndows disc? The difference is like night & day.


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#5
April 8, 2012 at 12:26:53
Unless you have unlimited funds, every system is a compromise. When you purchase your own components, you are able to choose what is more important to you in particular and therefore you can get a system that is better for you in particular. As mentioned, if you are not able or interested in doing this yourself, then you should get the best system you can afford in a manufactured system, or take some time in explaining to a custom shop what you use it for and what is more important to you.

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#6
April 8, 2012 at 15:00:46
There are no more "good" machines. At one time the original PC went though many many hours of tests, It was subjected to a hot and cold chamber for 24 hours or more. It ran test after test.

Today, it is all junk for more consumer products. If you want you can purchase a small business or business version and they tend to be a bit more stable and have better parts. We have thousand and thousands of HP systems and they seem fine. From workstations to servers.

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#7
April 8, 2012 at 15:22:12
Thanks all! The HP I have must've been a cheap one! Lesson learned!

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#8
April 8, 2012 at 16:01:36
No, all the manufactured PC's have crappy boards, with crappy capacitors, crappy cooling, and crappy power supplies. No matter what you pay. Build your own or buy one pre-built with good components like

http://www.ibuypower.com/

or

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

Do your research on the parts that are going to go into your computer, don't overlook the power supply as if you don't ask for an upgraded one you get a cheap one.

My 2 cents


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#9
April 8, 2012 at 17:19:24
Sometimes old fashioned luck comes into play when folk have experiences with branded products.

Some folk will "swear by" a particular name, others will "swear at it" LOL.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#10
April 10, 2012 at 15:46:01
If you don't know your computer hardware, do NOT order anything fron iBuy or CyberPower.

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#11
April 11, 2012 at 00:16:33
Yes, the important thing is to buy from somewhere that offers decent support if you do have problems, so don't buy the cheapest (for all the reasons previously mentioned).

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#12
April 11, 2012 at 02:14:54
I have an old HP Pavilion here that I have had since '99. It is still running Win 98se. It is way too slow by todays standards and can't really do much online anymore but it still works. I have replaced the power supply once (because ai had installed and after market video card that pushed my required wattage up), the hard drive twice (both times because I wanted a bigger one), the ram because I wanted more and maxed out at 256 megs, and the old dial up modem (it actually went bad). Thirteen years and only one factory part gone bad that I can remember so I won't complain about HP. When I got it everyone was telling me not to buy a Dell. Saying it was garbage. In this area now there are a lot of businesses and schools just full of Dell computers so I am not going to complain about them.

For the past four years I have been living on computer repair work and the only one I see a real problem with as far as hardware goes is the E-machine. I get a lot of bad power supplies and motherboards with them many of which are not that old. On a side note though many of these are also purchased to be a kids computer becuase their cheaper and walmart stocks them.

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#13
March 10, 2013 at 16:38:11
Ibuypower is completely hit or miss...and from my experience with two of their systems, and at least three other folks dealing with them, more often the latter. The components they use are high end, yes...but they're also the equivalent of Big Lots...meaning they might be high end, but they've got something not quite up to spec about them. The graphic card fans need an extra bit of glue to not make the noise of a yeti being taken against its will, the dual-video bridge burns out after an hour of continuous play on even the least intensive of high-graphic video games. That sort of thing. I have heard some of the same complaints about CyberPC. Frankly, the best bet is to find a reputable builder and purchase the high-quality parts yourself. Or, go with a prebuilt system from Lenovo (on the PC range), and upgrade it. Personally, however, the best bet is the suggestion above to utilize a commercial-grade workstation. They're powerhouses that can be upgraded with a minimum of fuss to be intense little bitties that will curl your hair in a heartbeat without burning a hole in your pocketbook.

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